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The gun handing on the Indien-Panzer sucks


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TheSpaceCommunist #1 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:02

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It really does, and I'm used to bad gun handling.

Mechron #2 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:03

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"Gun handling" ???

alf2499 #3 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:03

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Think he means the aim time, which is kinda high, but nothing a Vstab + GLD combo doesn't fix.

TheSpaceCommunist #4 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:04

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View PostMechron, on Apr 26 2013 - 01:03, said:

"Gun handling" ???

The aiming circle takes forever to aim and gets reset at the drop of a hat.

Kewei #5 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:04

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View Postalf2499, on Apr 26 2013 - 01:03, said:

Think he means the aim time, which is kinda high, but nothing a Vstab + GLD combo doesn't fix.

Aim time is only part of the problem, the other part is the reticule bloom that happens when you traverse.

Which more or less destroys it's supposed advantage over other medium tanks, hull-down sniping.  

Main reason why I've been saying the Indien-Panzer is just a worse FCM50T.

Sadly, the Tier 9 Leopard isn't much better.

Edited by Kewei, Apr 26 2013 - 01:05.


ZombieFlanders #6 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:05

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hmm...handles similar to the L71 on th P2 to me. same accuracy and aim time. got vstab with smooth ride skill and the cirlce is pretty tight while moving.  does take a while to aim in though.  

the tank is fun overall.  have had a few good games already.

alf2499 #7 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:07

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View PostKewei, on Apr 26 2013 - 01:04, said:

Aim time is only part of the problem, the other part is the reticule bloom that happens when you traverse.

Which more or less destroys it's supposed advantage over other medium tanks, hull-down sniping.  

Main reason why I've been saying the Indien-Panzer is just a worse FCM50T.

Sadly, the Tier 9 Leopard isn't much better.

I don't remember it being that terrible on test, though I'm pretty sure the Leo P with the 90mm was pretty dope. I know everyone was saying the 105 on the Leo P was god awful though.

TheSpaceCommunist #8 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:11

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View Postalf2499, on Apr 26 2013 - 01:03, said:

Think he means the aim time, which is kinda high, but nothing a Vstab + GLD combo doesn't fix.

I guess I'll go get a V Stab.

alf2499 #9 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:13

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View PostTheSpaceCommunist, on Apr 26 2013 - 01:11, said:

I guess I'll go get a V Stab.

You'll need a GLD as well, trust me.

Smooth Ride and Snap Shot for skills also.

The_Millard #10 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:14

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GLD
Vert
Rammer

Problem solved :)

TheSpaceCommunist #11 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:16

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View Postalf2499, on Apr 26 2013 - 01:13, said:

You'll need a GLD as well, trust me.Smooth Ride and Snap Shot for skills also.

I'm running Rammer, Vents, and GLD right now. I think I have Snap Shot and Smooth Ride as well, but I'm not sure.

Tishler #12 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:17

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It feels like the aim time is worse than the Panther II. I'm going to swap my vents for a GLD ASAP.

DDemon #13 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 01:19

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I really enjoy playing this tank, most fun I ever had in a tier 8 med tank.

Buzzzsaw #14 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 04:32

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View PostKewei, on Apr 26 2013 - 01:04, said:

Aim time is only part of the problem, the other part is the reticule bloom that happens when you traverse.

Which more or less destroys it's supposed advantage over other medium tanks, hull-down sniping.  

Main reason why I've been saying the Indien-Panzer is just a worse FCM50T.

Sadly, the Tier 9 Leopard isn't much better.

I said this in a pub battle today and they flamed the crap out of me.  It feels just like a worse version of the FCM50T.

GravesTheOutlaw #15 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 07:05

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How do you think the Indien Panzer compares to the Panther II?

View PostBuzzzsaw, on Apr 26 2013 - 04:32, said:

I said this in a pub battle today and they flamed the crap out of me.  It feels just like a worse version of the FCM50T.

Honestly, many say this about the Panther II as well.

Edited by GravesTheOutlaw, Apr 26 2013 - 07:05.


CryoVolt #16 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 07:16

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It's small, has good depression, good pen and is pretty mobile.  What's not to like?

Zhao_Zilong #17 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 07:16

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If you're like me and you're used to playing tier 8 soviet heavies, a 2.3s aim time and high accuracy is heaven!

SeniorMonkey #18 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 09:52

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I was looking forward to this tank..... After test bed I was going to skip the Leo's all together...... But the idien seemed to have potential......


i like that is fast and has decent reload..... But like someone said.... It's basically a 50cm with less armor.. Against most tanks it's a three shot tank and your dead......... Ad the op is right... If you release the mouse even slightly you get the bloom and miss your shot...... I had to adjust my mouse sensitivity a bit

xCaptainObviousx #19 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 10:04

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The issue isn't only the aim time, the Indien-pz have large reticle bloom when moving. The P2 have a dispersion factor of 0.17 (~same as the pershing on stock tracks) while the Indien-pz have 0.22 which is the same as the KV-1S.

Konigwolfen #20 Posted Apr 26 2013 - 10:32

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100% Crew  + GLD + Vert Stab + Vents + Brother's in Arms + Snap Shot + Smooth Ride = Profit