Jump to content


Japanese Anti-Tank Assaults


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
91 replies to this topic

The_Chieftain #1 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 00:46

    Military Specialist

  • Administrator
  • 13159 battles
  • 9,886
  • [WGA] WGA
  • Member since:
    09-08-2011

Posted Image


Another dig into the National Archives came up with this little item from Intelligence Bulletin, the issue of 02 February 1945. I copy below:

Following are excerpts from a mimeographed pamphlet entitled “Attack Regulations of 'A' Operation, Appendix No 3 - · Reference on Attacking Tanks with Explosives”  issued by Headquarters, MO Force (TN 18 Army) on 5th May 1944. The place and date of capture are unknown, but its subject matter is one apparently receiving increased emphasis by the [Japanese]. They show a pre-occupation with our armored forces and indicate effort to combat the effectiveness of our tanks. Chapter summaries follow:

Chap . 1. - "Enemy methods of employing tanks and importance of close combat training:- When penetrating the enemy position, the difficulties encountered by the attacking troops are the enemy fire cutting them off from their reserve and the counterattack within the position by tanks .

Chap 2. - . "Materials used in close combat against tanks and importance of close combat training with explosives:- The materials mainly used in close combat against tanks are AP mines, anti-tank mines, frangible incendiary grenades and explosives. The AP mines are effective against tanks with armor 25mm thick. Against tanks of 60mm armor, they are ineffective. The frangible incendiary grenades and anti-tank mines are used only to assist other methods of attacking hostile tanks, and they alone cannot completely incapacitate the tanks. Therefore, under the present situation, the only method which can destroy a tank is by using bundled explosives.

Chap 4. (Chap 3 seems to be missing) - "Amount of explosives required for destruction of enemy tanks and methods of destruction:- At least 6 kg (131/2 lbs.) of yellow powder are required to destroy the upper portion of tanks and about 10kg (22lbs) to destroy the sides. Against a moving tank, explosives are fastened on both ends of a rope and thrown at the tank. The weight of the explosive at one end is approximately 3 kg (7 lbs,).

Chap . 5. - "Summary of raids on tanks:- The raiding party is divided into one covering squad and several destruction squads. The duties of the covering squad are to guard and protect the operation and to cover the destruction squads after the raid has been made. A destruction squad is divided into several  teams, usually of two men each. Each team is assigned the destruction of one tank. In order to attack hostile tanks in action, remote control mines must be installed on the route of advance. As soon as the enemy tanks or the covering infantry approach the mined area, the mines are ignited and in the following period of confusion, the tanks are attacked by the destruction squad which is waiting nearby.




Posted Image










"Drive closer! I want to hit you with my sword!"


Chap . 7. (6 also has been skipped) - "Essentials of anti-tank action during daylight: A close quarter combat unit used against tanks is composed mainly of infantry and engineer troops. It is divided into several land mine squads (firing squads) and destruction squads, one reserve squad and, if necessary, a covering squad. According to the situation, his anti-tank close quarter combat unit is divided into several attack squads and reserve squads. Each attack squad is divided into one land mine and one destruction team.

"The land mine squad plants the mines along the possible approach of enemy tanks and attacks the hostile covering infantry. It separates the latter from the tanks or creates opportunities for the destruction squads by rendering a blow  to the tanks. The squad consists of ten men with a NCO as its leader. One among them is the igniter











Posted Image












"Separate the infantry from the tanks" May be easier said than done.


"The firing squad creates opportunities for the destruction squad by surprising the enemy with its fire , It is equipped with two or three light machine guns.

"The destruction squad destroys enemy tanks by using AP mines, tank mines and explosives. It is composed of several men with an NCO as its leader.

"The reserve squad acts as the reserve of the land mine squad and the destruction squads and performs, whenever necessary, their duties.

"The covering squad protects the actions of the land mine and the destruction squads. When a covering squad is not formed, the first line anti-tank close quarter  combat unit will perform its duties."

Along with this document is a chart showing data on American and British  tanks employed at present.



Since that is a bit short, I'll throw in a couple of other Archive finds. Completely unrelated.











Posted Image













Posted Image












Posted Image










Posted Image


Edited by hobbstrosity, Apr 29 2013 - 21:23.


BigDivet #2 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 18:18

    Corporal

  • Players
  • 104822 battles
  • 73
  • [DAOK] DAOK
  • Member since:
    03-08-2011
That snow tractor looks  like  a  gravely with tracks  does  it  come  with  snow  brush  and  lawn  cutting attachment's  :)

EsiX #3 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 18:20

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 11484 battles
  • 280
  • Member since:
    12-24-2012

View PostThe_Chieftain, on Apr 27 2013 - 00:46, said:

Posted Image



I want this !
The best scout EVAR !

husband #4 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 18:25

    Major

  • Players
  • 36792 battles
  • 3,650
  • Member since:
    07-01-2011
Excellent work!

I was wondering if you have found documents or will post any information about the Anti-tank rifles that were used during WW2. I understand that was the reason the Germans developed the side skirts. I've seen a few pictures and they look huge.
http://cdn103.ioffer...54/977/1rvT.jpg

thestuff #5 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 18:27

    Captain

  • Players
  • 7973 battles
  • 1,077
  • Member since:
    03-12-2011
I could guess what the content of chap 6 was ment to be...

just imagine a group of japs 'attacking' a m4 with their flimsy swords.  
         _____
       /           \===
     /   :bajan:  \ :izmena:  :izmena:  :izmena:
     (ooooooo)

Daigensui #6 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 18:39

    Major

  • Players
  • 30962 battles
  • 29,990
  • [KANCO] KANCO
  • Member since:
    11-09-2012
I think I read the digital version of this before.

Magick #7 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 18:52

    Major

  • Players
  • 3579 battles
  • 2,833
  • Member since:
    01-31-2011
It's interesting to note that there were a number of ways the US dealt with Japanese Anti Tank attempts.  In particular they found that the Sherman Dozer actually worked quite well for dealing with one tactic the Japanese Army used.

It sounds almost like something Wile E. Coyote would come up with, but the Japanese found that they could knock a tank out really quickly with a rather unique tactic.  What they would do was simple really.  A large artillery shell would be buried in a foxhole along a path where an enemy attack was likely to take place.  Then, a Japanese soldier full of the Kamikaze (divine wind) legend would join the artillery shell.  With him he'd take a large heavy hammer.  He'd wait until an american tank neared his position, or even stopped on top if it, before giving the percussion cap on the tip of the shell's detonator a good hard WHACK with the hammer.  Or several whacks.  Whatever it took to set off the shell.

The shell would explode, killing the guy with the hammer (of course) and taking the sherman with it.  More often than not, the Shermans would be totally flipped on their backs from the explosions.

So, to counter this "tactic" the US would have Shermans with the Dozer blades push into areas where these attacks were expected. (typically soft sandy soils or ground).  The dozer would drop its blade and just push the earth before it.  While that wouldn't stop some guy from detonating his shell early, it did have the effect of burying the foxholes and suffocating the men inside them.  Gruesome, but effective.

Flame tanks were used to this to some degree, but they had the added problem of detonating the munitions anyway, and given the limited range of the flame, there was always a chance the tank would be caught in the explosion anyway.

Another tactic the Japanese used was to place a magnetically detonated anti tank mine on the end of a long pole. The soldiers would run at the tanks enmasse with these poles extended, and when the mine struck the tank it would detonate. Killing the man holding the pole in the same blast.  That was hard for the US to counter, but to some degree they found that by placing wood (often in the form of cut tree trunks) on the sides of the tank, would help to deaden the blast.  It worked not unlike how modern composite armors worked, with the softer wood spreading the blast out over a wider area and preventing spalling and damage to the tank itself.

Edited by Magick, Apr 27 2013 - 18:59.


anonym_I1ThHzl7IRB7 #8 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 18:55

    Sergeant

  • -Players-
  • 0 battles
  • 207
  • Member since:
    05-29-2019
T68
ther goes the turret

anonym_I1ThHzl7IRB7 #9 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 19:02

    Sergeant

  • -Players-
  • 0 battles
  • 207
  • Member since:
    05-29-2019

View PostThe_Chieftain, on Apr 27 2013 - 00:46, said:

Posted Image

I WANA RIDE IT... This is better than a scouter

Edited by Harbingers_Havoc, Apr 27 2013 - 20:00.


SoukouDragon #10 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 19:06

    Major

  • Players
  • 13943 battles
  • 3,482
  • Member since:
    03-19-2011
Another interesting article about Japan. But no Japanese tanks this time. The first had the Ha Go tanks.

For the addition of the Japanese tech tree later this year or early next year, I hope there can be an article about the more advanced tanks that the Americans found during the occupation of Japan. Or something about the development of Japan's first post-war tank, the Type 61.

stevensw #11 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 19:38

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 6360 battles
  • 329
  • [DOUNW] DOUNW
  • Member since:
    10-21-2012
KAMIKAZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:

PsychoOfInsomniacs #12 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 19:49

    Sergeant

  • Players
  • 5737 battles
  • 117
  • [ICU] ICU
  • Member since:
    08-15-2012
we need japanese tanks in wot

Silentstalker2 #13 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 20:18

    Major

  • Players
  • 23 battles
  • 5,780
  • Member since:
    05-18-2012

View Posthusband, on Apr 27 2013 - 18:25, said:

Excellent work!

I was wondering if you have found documents or will post any information about the Anti-tank rifles that were used during WW2. I understand that was the reason the Germans developed the side skirts. I've seen a few pictures and they look huge.
http://cdn103.ioffer...54/977/1rvT.jpg

Funnily enough, Priory_of_Sion wrote about this recently:

http://ftr-wot.blogs...ank-rifles.html

apollokenney #14 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 20:27

    Captain

  • Players
  • 17485 battles
  • 1,787
  • [YELDO] YELDO
  • Member since:
    02-19-2011
Oh man i want one of those Tractor T-70s. soo cool looking.

badperson #15 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 20:33

    Captain

  • Players
  • 46790 battles
  • 1,222
  • Member since:
    05-19-2012
Cool find.

View PostMagick, on Apr 27 2013 - 18:52, said:

Suicide mines, suicide pole mines
IIRC one of those pole mines was a shaped charge.  RPG-43 meets the spear?

NutrientibusMeaGallus #16 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 20:40

    Major

  • Players
  • 22674 battles
  • 5,663
  • [FILOX] FILOX
  • Member since:
    10-26-2012
If I ever need a mobility scooter... I HAVE TO find the one in the pictures..... That would be AWESOME for tooling around Walmart!

kinger2005 #17 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 20:42

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 18785 battles
  • 680
  • [SUB-0] SUB-0
  • Member since:
    10-02-2012
The charge on a stick reminds me of

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=elJwuD7pfmc

starkwolf #18 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 22:30

    Corporal

  • Players
  • 1720 battles
  • 12
  • Member since:
    09-27-2012

View PostThe_Chieftain, on Apr 27 2013 - 00:46, said:







Posted Image

...receiving increased emphasis by the Japs...

This bothers me. WG should really be more careful with there language. If they intend (as I believe they should) to eliminate "Jap" from the chat, especially on WoWP, they should really focus on editing this out of their own articles!

EDIT: Apparently this is a part of the original pamphlet, not associated with WG. I apologize for any commotion this may have caused.

Edited by starkwolf, Apr 28 2013 - 22:42.


MrPerfect #19 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 22:37

    Sergeant

  • Beta Testers
  • 6837 battles
  • 165
  • [KK] KK
  • Member since:
    01-08-2011
I'm not positive with the dotted lines they used, but is the T68 getting 0.6MPG or 6MPG?

badperson #20 Posted Apr 27 2013 - 22:53

    Captain

  • Players
  • 46790 battles
  • 1,222
  • Member since:
    05-19-2012

View Poststarkwolf, on Apr 27 2013 - 22:30, said:

This bothers me. WG should really be more careful with there language. If they intend (as I believe they should) to eliminate "Jap" from the chat, especially on WoWP, they should really focus on editing this out of their own articles!
As a Japanese-American, I believe WG should worry more about editing for correct grammar and spelling, rather than worry about editing to prevent some white person from getting offended.  Jap is short for Japanese.

Edited by badperson, Apr 27 2013 - 22:56.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users