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Is the Leo 1 the most tedious grind in WoT?


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Kevlar1972 #1 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:02

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I am only on the 3002DB now, but with its weak gun the grind is taking forever.  Looking ahead to the tier 8 and 9 the grind looks worse than any other tank I have ever played.  Is it just me or does it look to be the worst grind in the game?

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View PostKevlar1972, on Apr 30 2013 - 20:02, said:

I am only on the 3002DB now, but with its weak gun the grind is taking forever.  Looking ahead to the tier 8 and 9 the grind looks worse than any other tank I have ever played.  Is it just me or does it look to be the worst grind in the game?
A lot of branches have tanks that are known to not be good.

Darksamus224 #3 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:05

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View Postjdtherocker, on Apr 30 2013 - 20:03, said:

A lot of branches have tanks that are known to not be good.
Example: T-43 leading into the T-44. Supposedly it's a bad tank, but I don't know, I like mine. Maybe I'm just good@badtanks.  :mellow:

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Yeah, it is pretty awful. I've unlocked the Tiger and the Panther from it previously, so it's becoming my most played tank, while at the same time being one of my most hated tanks. It's a horrible grind. Your only chance is to scout/hunt spgs/cap in high tier games, and to flank people in the rest.
At least I managed to get the engine before they changed it.
It's definately one of the worst grinds in the game. Auf. Panther is worse though.

Kevlar1972 #5 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:07

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View PostDarksamus224, on Apr 30 2013 - 20:05, said:

Example: T-43 leading into the T-44. Supposedly it's a bad tank, but I don't know, I like mine. Maybe I'm just good@badtanks.

It isn't just the one bad tank.  Its all the useless guns and stuff they force you to grind.  It just seems like if you add up the total xp you need to get to tier 10 the Leo has to be one of the most expensive.

crashumbc #6 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:08

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the 30.02d

is a GOOD tank if you mount the short 88 and sling gold rounds :(

I enjoyed the grind for the indian panz. but I probably lost 600k in credits :(

Kevlar1972 #7 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:11

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I mean what is the point of the extra 20k they throw on the Indien Panzer to force you to buy a gun that is almost exactly the same gun as the 88 L/71.

On most tanks that would be an optional gun, not thrown into the grind to unlock the next tier.

HBadger41 #8 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:12

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hmmm judging by the number of Leopard 1's I saw in battle day 1 of 8.5.. apparently not a hard grind at all..

Kevlar1972 #9 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:13

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View PostBadgerT34, on Apr 30 2013 - 20:12, said:

hmmm judging by the number of Leopard 1's I saw in battle day 1 of 8.5.. apparently not a hard grind at all..

Anyone who has a premium tank can throw $100 bucks into free xp if they really want it.

Even then I bet it costs more $$ in free xp than any other tank.

jdtherocker #10 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:16

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View PostDarksamus224, on Apr 30 2013 - 20:05, said:

Example: T-43 leading into the T-44. Supposedly it's a bad tank, but I don't know, I like mine. Maybe I'm just good@badtanks.  :mellow:
American:
mediums: m7, m3 lee
heavies: t1 heavy some people don't like
lights: are there any?
tds: t25/2, t40, t28 proto

british:
medium: crusader
lights: are there any?
tds: valentine at
heavies: not sure if any

Chinese line: m5a1

soviet:
mediums: t43, some don't like t34-85 or t-34
lights: a-20
heavies: some don't like the is-8
tds: some don't like the lower end tds. and 2nd td line is said to not be good

german:
lights: the NA
mediums: vk 30.02d.
tds: jagdpz4, some didn't like hetzer
heavies: are there any?
French:
lights: amx 40, the amx 12t
mediums: Lorraine 40t
heavies: b1 g1b and arl seemto have bad rep
tds: the arl v39 I think its called.

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I enjoy the hell out of the 3002d..
Its a good enough tier seven and compares well to the others.
Just have no desire what so ever to get more German mediums aside from E50 and E50M.
So I get to run PantherII and complain about that.

Kevlar1972 #12 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:18

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View Postledhed14, on Apr 30 2013 - 20:16, said:

I enjoy the hell out of the 3002d.. Its a good enough tier seven and compares well to the others. Just have no desire what so ever to get more German mediums aside from E50 and E50M. So I get to run PantherII and complain about that.

At least the panther at tier 7 gets a 198 pen gun.  The top gun on the DB is only 132 pen.  Its like they want to force the derp gun on you all over again.

LimiterOne #13 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:19

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You obviously haven't done the T-30 to T-110E4 grind... oh, the humanity.

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View PostKevlar1972, on Apr 30 2013 - 20:02, said:

I am only on the 3002DB now, but with its weak gun the grind is taking forever.  Looking ahead to the tier 8 and 9 the grind looks worse than any other tank I have ever played.  Is it just me or does it look to be the worst grind in the game?

You think WG doesn't know this? I m surprised that you thought it would be easier. Always they have an OP tier X supplemented with 2-3 bad to lower than avg tanks. You either free exp by spending gold, or enjoy the long tedious grind. You can make it softer by having prem and little bit free exp.

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View PostLimiterOne, on Apr 30 2013 - 20:19, said:

You obviously haven't done the T-30 to T-110E4 grind... oh, the humanity.

Not as bad as the T95.

Also, have fun with the Indien Panzer, aka the FCM without beneficial match making and shittier aim time.

joka111 #16 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:28

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Leo is OP...oh wait I'm just one of thoes haters or somethin'.

karnage666 #17 Posted Apr 30 2013 - 20:30

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View PostKevlar1972, on Apr 30 2013 - 20:18, said:

At least the panther at tier 7 gets a 198 pen gun.  The top gun on the DB is only 132 pen.  Its like they want to force the derp gun on you all over again.
The t 43 is about as bad as the vk 3002db ..It takes 122215 xp to fully upgrade the t44 .. It takes 69800xp for the Indien (less if you have the long 88 unlocked, which is a good grind gun anyways). Whine less.

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View PostLimiterOne, on Apr 30 2013 - 20:19, said:

You obviously haven't done the T-30 to T-110E4 grind... oh, the humanity.

Tank gods will strike you down if you talk ill of the T30!

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I had the xp needed to get the indien panzer before the patch hit. When it hit i used that xp to unlock the indien panzer. Then i just dipped into the 900k xp i had not converted and got me a leo 1 :playing:


PS - There was some occasions where the DB worked well and did its share and more... not very often though :hiding:

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It looks very long. The Leo Proto seems hidiously bad (5 RPM, lolol). I'm at the Indien but taking my time grinding the old fashioned way. The Indien is a good tank though, but remember, EVERYTHING is subject to nerfs. Don't spend gold on it yet until it's been nerfed a few times.