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Daist #141 Posted Feb 17 2011 - 14:08

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They start to turn the turret and it's harder to hit it. However the hull cannot be turned that easily so I ended up shooting just like the screenshot shows. Also, I somehow doubt you can penetrate the mantlet with a 105mm gun 9/10 times.

BS87 #142 Posted Feb 18 2011 - 14:12

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View PostDaist, on Feb 17 2011 - 14:08, said:

They start to turn the turret and it's harder to hit it. However the hull cannot be turned that easily so I ended up shooting just like the screenshot shows. Also, I somehow doubt you can penetrate the mantlet with a 105mm gun 9/10 times.
If you fire directly down the barrel it's actually quite weak, I've penetrated it with smaller guns like the 90mm on the M6 (although that thing usually doesn't make it close enough :P) and some of the smaller German guns such as the 75mm L70/ etc. The M1A1/A2 can do it too, but alot less reliably.

You have an excellent point about turret rotation though, so now that i know this spot i'm going to use it alot more often :)

Leisure_Shoot #143 Posted Feb 19 2011 - 15:02

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View PostSarpadeon, on Jan 21 2011 - 03:10, said:

they do have better firepower, by a good ~300 DPM(damage per minute) in most cases.

T32
6.4 rounds a min x 360 = 2304 DPM
KT
6.06 rounds a min x 320 = 1939 DPM
IS-3
5.17 rounds a min x 390 = 2016 DPM

T34
6.2 rounds a min x 400 = 2480 DPM
VK45
4.58 rounds a min x 470 = 2152 DPM
IS-4
4.44 rounds a min x 490 = 2175 DPM


With the T34 armor, you might not make it one minute into a fire fight.

Leisure_Shoot #144 Posted Feb 19 2011 - 15:14

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View PostSkwabie, on Feb 15 2011 - 23:16, said:

yep I'm under a lot of pressure everytime taking this tank to battle, especially now that most tier 9s are IS4s. It's very unforgiving. It ends up badly if I do ONE thing wrong. And that's with the 120mm. How I managed to grind all those 110K exp to the 120mm is beyond me :mellow:


I did my grind to the 120mm using my M37 arty & M3 Stuart mostly (maybe 450 EXP average, with just under 2000 EXP in lucky games, with doubling) and 10K $$ in every game.
I did some T32 & T34 battles for greater experience points per battle, but they are more cost (lucky to break even on T34 often).

ETA: with the 120mm, I am earning $15K after repairs and ammo, regularly.  I was expecting the price of AP to be much higher ($1000/shell 105mm vs. $1020/shell 120mm). I have earned almost 40K a couple times (with doubling, probably).

StormDamage #145 Posted Feb 21 2011 - 11:42

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I really enjoyed and still have my T29.  The T32 I played was after nerf so I did not like it.  T34 is just a horrible tank.  The gun is near useless.

thejoker91 #146 Posted Feb 23 2011 - 09:01

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The problem with the T34 is that its basically a T29 with extra health until you get the 120mm.

SpectreHD #147 Posted Feb 23 2011 - 16:36

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View Postthejoker91, on Feb 23 2011 - 09:01, said:

The problem with the T34 is that its basically a T29 with extra health until you get the 120mm.

And being forced to face IS4s and VK4502s which are pretty much impenetrable against the 105mm unless you can catch them from the sides...Sold my T34 as I cannot believe such a soft tank is Tier 9 and that I didn't want to level to the T30 since the T30 itself is not worth the grind.

Asyranok #148 Posted Feb 23 2011 - 20:52

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My main question is... why does the T34 do 60-90 less damage per shot with its main turret than the other tier 9's...

It has less armor than the German and Russian counterparts. It is no faster than the Russian counterpart. It does less damage than both by a considerable amount. It has less health than the VK 4502 and around the same as the IS3.

It is, overall, and unfairly weak tank for a tier 9. At least give the armor peircing capabilities of its weaker cannon values of roughly 300 mm penetration to give this tank a perk.

vince_grant #149 Posted Feb 23 2011 - 21:37

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The T34 is actually a decent tank once you get to know it, there are however a few things i would like to have changed.

The turret is too weak, the T32 with 298mm armor and smaller profile is way better. It turns slower yes, but i dont really notice a difference. Also while im not sure, it seems that T32 can move gun more up and down than T29/34.

The hull should have 127mm armor like T32.

Gun itself is good, it still have more dpm than VK45 and IS-4, its shells costs less than King tigers 105mm but do more damage (lol?). It should however have more penetration imo. Maybe like 260mm.

A fix is needed for the gun, it gets destroyed every battle where i take hits to turret. Not really a problem one would think, however it only happens when it bounce shells and take no damage. Last battle i lost gun, took no damage, waited for it to get fixed, then a little while later, gun gets destroyed again, and still no damage to tank. And its not from HE shells, its AP only.

Mow_Mow #150 Posted Feb 24 2011 - 01:48

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Gun damage appears to be high for all tanks, not just the T34. It's just that, at tier 9 battles, even though there is 279 mm of frontal turret armor, there are many guns whose penetration rolls exceed 279 and can penetrate and it's worth a try in some cases.

Before this tank gets the 120mm gun, its a joke. After it gets that gun, its no longer a joke but it's simply not a tier 9 tank.

Anomali #151 Posted Feb 24 2011 - 04:07

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They are proposing a change to the U.S. heavy line, I hope they do it justice if they do. Until then I will stick to my awesome sauce T-32. I couldn't even use the T-34 it was a waste of money and exp, after about 50 battles or so I sold it.

j_peterson #152 Posted Feb 24 2011 - 20:16

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They should just swap places between the t32 and t34, give the t32 the 120mm instead, that would make a really nice tier 9 i think, ofc the t34 would be even more pointless as it would be a t29 with more hp but less wiewdistance
(no ears).

vince_grant #153 Posted Feb 24 2011 - 20:28

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View PostMow_Mow, on Feb 24 2011 - 01:48, said:

Gun damage appears to be high for all tanks, not just the T34. It's just that, at tier 9 battles, even though there is 279 mm of frontal turret armor, there are many guns whose penetration rolls exceed 279 and can penetrate and it's worth a try in some cases.

Before this tank gets the 120mm gun, its a joke. After it gets that gun, its no longer a joke but it's simply not a tier 9 tank.

Yes, but this happens when tank takes no damage, shell bounce off but gun gets destroyed. Happens in T32 too, however not as often..

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I am very concerned that the 120mm on the replacement Tier 10, M103 will be the same 120mm that we have now. That would be a shame.

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View PostLeisure_Shoot, on Feb 25 2011 - 04:23, said:

I am very concerned that the 120mm on the replacement Tier 10, M103 will be the same 120mm that we have now. That would be a shame.

I'm sure it will be a different version of the 120mm for the Patton. It will likely have comparable damage to the other tier 10's and about the same penetration with a higher rate of fire.

Ajatcho #156 Posted Feb 26 2011 - 11:53

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View Postyukimura1, on Dec 27 2010 - 00:01, said:

Ok so this is to the programmers. How the can you make a tier 9 tank worse then it's tier 7/8 counterparts? You nerf american tanks, barely change the german tanks, then buff the soviet tanks. Oh and lets not forget the biggest failure at patching a game in history so far. Glitched spotting, screwed up matching system for tank company fights,(should be based on tank capabilities and not tier due to disputable tank specs), and screwed up platoon invites. I mean seriously if you cant do this any better then hand this game over to NCsoft, Blizzard Entertainment, or Koei at least when they fix stuff they dont break a million other things. For those of you who don't like this post I'll let you know when i give a flying flip.


You guys still suck ass

WELL THIS WOULD ANSWER YOUR COMLIANS ON THE T34

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Written By: Diastant

Tank Reviews #4- T-29 (T-20, 34 variant)

History: It was an American tank project started in March 1944 to counter the new German tanks. Because the M-26 Pershing wasn't considered well for fighting Tiger's and such, they got to use the experimental data on a new tank, the T-29 (Keep in mind that the T-29, T-30, and T-34 are identical except for the fact that they had different guns and engines),

Armor: This is interesting. The T-29's turret probably has more armor than the Maus has frontal. So, if you are in a hull down position, which mean that only your turret is visible, you are very invincible to lighter and weaker tanks. Your gun is protected by a very thick mantle plate. The main weak point of American heavy tanks seem to be the hull. It's quite low in-game actually, but nevertheless the hull is your weakest point. See, you can't underestimate the armor of the T-29/T-series. My IS-4 auto-aimed at the back of its turret and the shell bounced off once. So try not to auto-aim these tanks, you will probably find yourself bouncing it. The hull armor does need to be watched though, it can be penetrated by weaker guns but the turret is the major feature.

Firepower: Your first gun is mostly from the T-1/M-6 and it can't really do much. It's more like a ping-pong shooter on a giant turret, but once you get the 105, you will start kicking some tank butt. Try to stick with the supporting role at first because there isn't much you can damage, but as you get the better and final gun, you will find that it's fun, almost. They favor more turret defense, and they are more supportive. They can do whatever style you want, but it's best to do a supportive type with your current gun. For the T-34 and T-30, the 120 and 155mm guns really kick some butt. These can deal massive damage, and the T-30 is basically a tank destroyer with a turret.

Mobility: The T-series has great maneuverability. In fact, the are almost comparable to Soviet tanks. There really isn't much to say about maneuverability. Although at first it may seem sluggish and unresponsive, it accelerates faster than the Soviet and German heavies and it keeps up with the speed. It's not bad for a heavy tank. Compare it to the faster heavies.

Fear Factor: These things have a major fear factor in them. Although most might ignore the T29, the T-34 and T-30 are something to be reckoned with. Their huge turret armor ad huge guns distract you from targeting their hulls, and when you finally manage to hit the hull, you deal some damage but by then their 120 and 155mm guns are already done with totally knocking out and destroying your poor tank. Never ignore any of these tanks, although they are supportive, when used correctly they can we very very deadly.

Overall Factor: These are honest good tanks, and when compared to the IS and Tiger, most people would say the T-29 is the better. Again, in the the end it's up to you, but these are great all-round tanks, it's just their hull armor that is a little weaker, but be afraid, be very afraid. T-29 Power!




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View Postvince_grant, on Feb 24 2011 - 20:28, said:

Yes, but this happens when tank takes no damage, shell bounce off but gun gets destroyed. Happens in T32 too, however not as often..

I did that to a Maus today in my T30... left him at 9%, shot him in the gun area and crit'd his gun for 0 damage... then he unloaded like 700 damage to me while I was reloading -_-;

T30 is what the T34 should have really been.

T34 should really be T34/30, with T30's gun's firing rate nerfed so that the dps is around T34's 120mm gun (Can choose between firing speed, or penetration. While some people say faster firing is bad considering same dps, the T-44's 100mm vs. 122mm seem to show that in some cases it can be a good balance of firing rate vs. alpha damage). Then, could probably put M103 as the top American tank.




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