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Poll: Light Tank Tree (41 members have cast votes)

Best Light Tank's in General by Nation

  1. French (6 votes [14.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.63%

  2. Soviet (11 votes [26.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.83%

  3. German (7 votes [17.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.07%

  4. American (7 votes [17.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.07%

  5. China (7 votes [17.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.07%

  6. Skittles (3 votes [7.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.32%

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Vulcan213 #1 Posted May 07 2013 - 10:42

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So what is the better scout line?
I'm personally leaning toward the french lights but I'm not totally sure that's the one for me.
So here is a quick skim over the light tank lines

-Americans T1 Cunningham-Chaffee
-Germans loltracktor-Auflk Panther
-Russians Ms-1-'t-50-2'
-British Cruiser III-Crusader (Not really true scouts)
-China M5A1 Stuart-WZ-131
-France  ft-17-AMX-13-19
Best Regards
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EDIT: I forgot about the T21 and T71 Line
Thanks ingerad

Edited by Vulcan213, May 07 2013 - 11:19.


ingerad #2 Posted May 07 2013 - 10:52

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Forgot about the American T21 and T71 line.

zGarmin #3 Posted May 07 2013 - 10:56

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Personally, while the Frenchies are still strong. They are diminished by the advent of higher tier autoloaders, they're simply being crowded out of what used to be a limited arena.

Top Picks by Tier:

Tier 5: T-50-2 & Chaffee
Tier 6: Meh, they're not all that great
Tier 7: T71 & WZ-131
Tier 8: WZ-132 & AMX 13 90

Honestly, I loved the T71. The frontline autoloaders might not be your thing after the T71, but it's a strong line to go down nonetheless.

Edited by Garmin_leFabre, May 07 2013 - 11:08.


Spitfire155 #4 Posted May 07 2013 - 11:00

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The T50 and the T-50-2 are two awesome tanks.

French line? The ELC AMX is really, really, fun... just beware of the fact that the "turret" doesn't go all the way around. Just a little bit of movement, like a TD. :( Never knew that when I got it, lol

Vulcan213 #5 Posted May 07 2013 - 11:03

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View PostGarmin_leFabre, on May 07 2013 - 10:56, said:

Personally, while the Frenchies are still strong. They are diminished by the advent of higher tier autoloaders, they're simply being crowded out of what used to be limited arena.

Top Picks by Tier:

Tier 5: T-50-2 & Chaffee
Tier 6: Meh, they're not all that great
Tier 7: T71 & WZ-131
Tier 8: WZ-132 & AMX 13 90

Honestly, I loved the T71. The frontline autoloaders might not be your thing after the T71, but it's a strong line to go down nonetheless.
Thanks, I think I might go up the French line for the AMX 13 90 and maybe the chaffee
Although I've been harrassed by T71 before and they look odd but fun  :glasses:

Edited by Vulcan213, May 07 2013 - 11:04.


zGarmin #6 Posted May 07 2013 - 11:09

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Oh, however getting through the T21 and M7 can be an exercise in testicular fortitude. There is very little redeeming value in the M7 and the T21 can be 'iffy' at times.

Vulcan213 #7 Posted May 07 2013 - 11:11

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View PostGarmin_leFabre, on May 07 2013 - 11:09, said:

Oh, however getting through the T21 and M7 can be an exercise in testicular fortitude. There is very little redeeming value in the M7 and the T21 can be 'iffy' at times.
Okay, I once tried grinding the french heavy line but the early tier tanks put me off (Off-topic lol)
Is it worth free exping past the M7 & T21?

zGarmin #8 Posted May 07 2013 - 11:15

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M7 definitely, although the T21 I am unsure on. I personally had a terrible experience with both of them. However I know guys that swear by the T21... So it's status at least for me is ambiguous.

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View Postingerad, on May 07 2013 - 10:52, said:

Forgot about the American T21 and T71 line.

The T21 is very fast true scout but I don't consider the T71 a scout, or shall I say "Much more than a scout". It's in line tith the AMX 13 90. More of a scout hunter with good guns and sniping potential. Excellent in picking up injured tanks including heavies. The best way to play these is to stay back for a while or do some carefull passive scouting. If you try and scout agressive like you would with a Chaffee or T-50-2 you will be dead very fast.

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The best " pure " scout ( active ) in the game is the T-50-2. All other scouts cant really match it in any way shape or form

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View PostSpitfire155, on May 07 2013 - 11:00, said:

The T50 and the T-50-2 are two awesome tanks.

French line? The ELC AMX is really, really, fun... just beware of the fact that the "turret" doesn't go all the way around. Just a little bit of movement, like a TD. :( Never knew that when I got it, lol

A good scout needs drive by shooting ability and fast reload. The ELC has none of that. A T-50-2 can ramm an ELC to death without loosing any hp. I done it many times. Also if you have the chance to get in between 2 arties a trurret scout has much more advantage.

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View PostVulcan213, on May 07 2013 - 11:11, said:

Okay, I once tried grinding the french heavy line but the early tier tanks put me off (Off-topic lol)
Is it worth free exping past the M7 & T21?

The M7 is a medium tank with speed and mobility, but sub-par weapons. The first turret is the top turret from the Lee (which doesn't work on the Lee) and only has a 37MM. You'll want to upgrade to the second turret and the 76MM. Once you have that it a good tank to flank and work on scout tactics.

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I don't have anywhere near the experience of some of the posters, but I do have a view. Haven't tried the T-50-2 but have been up against them way too many times. In the hands of a good driver they are impressive. I grinded through the M7 and watched my stats drop daily. Got to the T21 and had a hard time with it. Used free XP to get the T71. I like it but know I am not experienced enough to get the most out of it. I have never had one do to me what T-50-2's do all the time.

There is a video out right now on the T71 (startup screen) that I watched part of. Seems to me it isn't really a true scout even if it has some of the features. I have the ELC and have a blast running it but the lack of a turret is a huge disadvantage. The reload time is such that if the arty can take the first hit you have to run around and stay in the area too long to get off a second shot. That time usually ends in my fiery death from the arty itself or a support tank that had lots of time to come and help.

I'm grinding my way - slowly - to the 13-90 because I heard it is everything I am looking for

my 2 cents

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The M7 is a bit of an odd duck, but I'm part of the minority that actually likes the tank.  In the end, the M7 falls somewhere in that grey area of a non-scout light tank and a medium.  It can flank really well with its speed, but it never will fill the role of a true scout.  At the same time, it just doesn't have the firepower of other Tier 5 mediums, or at least it doesn't feel like it.  With how fast the gun fires, you can put out some decent dps if you can get a sustained group of shots off on someone, but that isn't so common.  You just have to learn to skulk around the edges of battles and leave the face-to-face fighting to tanks better suited to it while you pick off stragglers or tanks that are distracted.  In the end, it truly is a good stepping stone for the T21 and the T71 since you should be using the same tactics for these tanks as you did for the M7.

I love my T71, and I have done really well with it.  However, I also think the T21 gets a bad wrap because of how much people want to get to the T71.  The T21 starts off a bit slow, yes, but the best gun on the tank fires FAST!  And it's almost as accurate as the higher-penning gun on the T71.  To be honest, I think there is an argument to be made for the T21 being more devastating for its tier than the T71.  Sure, the T71 can throw 900hp in damage in about 10 seconds, but the T21 fires almost as fast, and it can sustain that ROF long after the T71's magazine runs out.

I'm not saying I prefer the T21 over the T71, and the T71 will murder the T21 in a stand-up fight, but I think the T21 is more effective than most are willing to admit.  The whole progression from the M7 to the T71 has just been fun for me.  None of it felt like a chore or a grind.

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I have more fun with the German lights than any other.  Despite brutal MM for the Luchs and Leopard, they are what I enjoy the most.  After that, the Russian T-50.  I have researched the T-50-2 and and VK2801, so will be starting them soon.  Have not got the hang of the ELC yet.

Just bought the M5 back.  Don't care for either of the M5 tanks, but want to make the long grind to the Chaffee.  Looks like a fun, but expensive tank to play.

Also will soon be playing the higher tier (6) and up Chinese lights.  Hope to have fun in them.

I'm afraid that soon, I will play only light tanks.  But hey, I want to enjoy my WOT play, and they are what I enjoy the most.

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View PostGarmin_leFabre, on May 07 2013 - 11:09, said:

Oh, however getting through the T21 and M7 can be an exercise in testicular fortitude. There is very little redeeming value in the M7 and the T21 can be 'iffy' at times.

I actually have a decent w/r in the M7 having ground out both the chaffee and the T-21.  if you have an american medium premium tank, the brief hiatus of the M7 as a medium rather than a scout/LT can help train that crew.  remembering that it is in fact a medium and doesn't get the camo on the move bonus can help you survive longer as well.  despite it's gun not being a true sniper/accurate gun, it can work out as a 2nd line sniper due to the very high ROF.  the pain for most folks in that tank is the number of spamming derp tanks you see in that tank, which forces you to play that 2nd tier/supporting role, with the spammy semi-accurate gun.  it also does ok as an anti-scout once it gets up to speed - using auto aim on it's spammy gun whilst zerging around taking out enemy scouts and/or ramming them works well enough in pubs most of the time.

View Postpaladin0, on May 07 2013 - 16:06, said:

The M7 is a medium tank with speed and mobility, but sub-par weapons. The first turret is the top turret from the Lee (which doesn't work on the Lee) and only has a 37MM. You'll want to upgrade to the second turret and the 76MM. Once you have that it a good tank to flank and work on scout tactics.
  I actually preferred the top turret with the rapid fire 6pdr gun.  *shrug*


I'm still getting my feet wet in the T-21.  so far it seems like it wants to be a flanker more than a true scout.  love my chaffee, but it is often outclassed by the newer higher tier scouts - on city maps with very little concealment I'm all too often an easy kill for T71's, T69's, Chinese Wizzys, and batchats

recently I also just rebought the german leopard and am getting my feet wet in it as well - eventual goal is of course to continue up through and past the indien panzer to the top leopard.

my T-50-2 still suffers from the crew not having its first skill/perk yet, last I looked my w/r in it was nearing the server average finally.

I don't have any personal experience in the french or chinese lines.  clanmate loves his chinese higher tier LTs, he knows where his typical spotting distances are by heart and is a very aggressive tank killer in his wizzy's  most people I know that play the french lines are doing so for one of two tanks - the ELC, or the end line batchat.

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If you're talking actual scouting, you're literally insane to do anything but go through the T-50 and T-50-2. By FAR the best scouts in the game. Small, fast, agile, accurate, and with Sprem loaded, deadly.

T71 is a great tank, and a great high-tier hunter/killer/scout, but it's a totally different proposition.

Love my Chaffee, but its just not fast/agile/small enough for most active scouting atm.

Luchs/leopard/2801 are all a blast to play, but big and not very mobile.

Haven't tried the Chinese line yet, so can't really say.

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French power, because screw you, I'm on a BatChat!

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scouting is really hard.....you are thrown into tier9-10 matches where every1 sees further than you do (at least with my t-5o). I have read everything there is on this subject and watched hours of video, so here is general consensus:

active scouting:t50, t50-2
passive: leopard, and chaffee
anti-scout hunters: Chinese line until wz's (they have better guns at that point)
lights with offensive killing power so maybe flankers/breakthrough: 28.01 (don't know about panther yet): AMX ELC
have to develop your own style: other French lights.  they are not bad just, as with the elc, different.

hope this helps a bit: I am a terrible scout though I do everything that is recommended:  cammo, binocs, CO, skilled crew.

best of luck and btw I love the French line.

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I'm not a scout tank fan by any means but after running up against all the scout tanks out there  I would agree with others the T-50 and T-50-2 are far and away the best active scouts.  If that's what you're looking for, your goal is decided.  

If you had merely asked what is the best light tank line, then it's much more complicated and you already got the info you needed.  Some lights are not necessarily the best scouts but have other redeeming qualities.   The question is what is the best match for you, not which one is best overall.   Maybe describe what you're looking for if you don't already have your answer.