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Sanya_Blossom's Photo Sanya_Blossom Today, 07:07 AM

I've been playing WoT, even asked for some tips here in this forum (which many wonderful posters helped me out a ton~ Thanks very much!) and even watched a few youtube videos for visual tips.

I haven't been doing too bad either (http://www.noobmeter...a/Sanya_Blossom for someone <100 battles) but I wasn't able to play for a couple of days and now suddenly I have cold feet about battles. I'm being way over cautious now, hiding in a bush instead of being an asset to the team.

Makes me wish there was more than just firing big guns at the enemy, maybe a medic tank or something else besides scouting/shooting. Reading the forums and knowing that it's a fact that the system will put you up against impossible odds so you'll lose worries me even more. I hate being steamrolled, it's very demoralizing and then it happens back to back which makes it harder to put effort.

I'm guessing this is just the nature of competitive player versus player gaming so I figure everyone who has some experience goes through these feelings, any help on how to get through it?

I've tried going over what I'd be good at, I'm definetly not a leader, I'm not gonna charge out to the front lines. I want to learn to scout but at lower tiers seems there's not much you can do since most of the tanks are on equal footing. I'm trying to power through the tiers so I can get a T-50-2 but I've been told not to do that. Ugh, where'd my fighting spirit go~?!
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Grumpy_Turtle's Photo Grumpy_Turtle Today, 07:15 AM

I feel the same way after I either have a few bad games, or don't play for a while. Give it some time and maybe play a bit more than average over the next day or 2 and you should be back to playing well again :).
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viking_power's Photo viking_power Today, 07:27 AM

You are doing good for a new player. Just keep trying to improve. :smile:
My stats :sad:
http://www.noobmeter...na/viking_power
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Vezner's Photo Vezner Today, 07:27 AM

Scouting is a hard art to master, most players run out into the field guns ablazing.
But you have to learn how to read the game and situation.
Once you see where a large amount of enemy forces you make your move.
You have to create a path that will lead behind the enemy safely.
Or at least without a large amount of enemies.
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Diacom's Photo Diacom Today, 07:34 AM

 Sanya_Blossom, on May 18 2013 - 07:07, said:

. I'm trying to power through the tiers so I can get a T-50-2 but I've been told not to do that. Ugh, where'd my fighting spirit go~?!

Do not bother with the t-50-2 for some time, Until you have the t-50 mastered.

Reason, you'll go broke.  There's not much the 50-2 can do that the 50 can't.  But the one thing the 50 will do that the 50-2 wont is not cost you a fortune while you learn to play them.

I have the 50-2, and am holding on to it until they figure out for sure if we are keeping it or getting rid of it, but once that's done I'll drop back to the 50.  Your 10k alone in repair bill if you die during the match, not counting anything you shoot.  Just so you know.
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AFRICANINDARKNESS's Photo AFRICANINDARKNESS Today, 07:37 AM

I don't think the T-50-2 is a beginner's tank.

any scout tank require pretty damn good knowledge of the game, as well as all the maps. That's not something u get when you just start playing.
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jerv's Photo jerv Today, 07:39 AM

In low-tier battles, there really isn't much to do except run around brawling. Tier 2 opens up the game a little since there are stealthy TDs and some arty, but they generally suck. Tier 4 is where things really start to branch out (Tier 3 for arty) since tanks really start to have notable strengths and weaknesses compared to their peers. The "pocket Heavy" Matilda is nothing like the circle-jerking T-50 or the ambush-ninja derp Hetzer.

I rarely like being a frontliner myself, so I favor TDs and sniping tanks. But at the end of the day, WoT boils down to doing one of two things; shooting enemies, or spotting for your teammates so that they can shoot enemies. There is no "Healer" class, only those that kill and those that help others kill. What did you expect from a tank combat game?

As for impossible odds, I've won many battles that XVM predicted
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MrsmilieyfaceC8's Photo MrsmilieyfaceC8 Today, 07:48 AM

 AFRICANINDARKNESS, on May 18 2013 - 07:37, said:

I don't think the T-50-2 is a beginner's tank.

any scout tank require pretty damn good knowledge of the game, as well as all the maps. That's not something u get when you just start playing.

my brother, Danielop1337, has less than 1k battles and is a super good scout :l

He uses his Russian mediums for scouting, then attacking.
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burning_phoneix's Photo burning_phoneix Today, 07:52 AM

If you don't want to charge and be more passive. Tank destroyers seem tailored for you.
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CRISISBATTL's Photo CRISISBATTL Today, 07:57 AM

 burning_phoneix, on May 18 2013 - 07:52, said:

If you don't want to charge and be more passive. Tank destroyers seem tailored for you.
or most german tanks
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Altorax's Photo Altorax Today, 08:18 AM

 Grumpy_Turtle, on May 18 2013 - 07:15, said:

I feel the same way after I either have a few bad games, or don't play for a while. Give it some time and maybe play a bit more than average over the next day or 2 and you should be back to playing well again :).

This. All games (including sports) challenge players on a psychological level as well as on a mental (gaming) level. It's just how the brain works - you don't play for a while and you suddenly start worrying about whether you've forgotten stuff that you've learnt and whether your skills have deteriorated. Or you have a few bad games and start stressing out about what you're doing wrong and emotions start getting mixed in. Don't worry about it, it's perfectly natural. The mark of a true gamer/athlete is the ability to surpass these psychological hurdles and focus on the present and what you can do in that instant instead of worrying about the outcome of a game. To sum up, only worry about what you can control and how you can apply yourself to give your team an advantage. Anything else is irrelevant and will only serve to distract you.

Regarding playstyles, my opinion is that you don't think you're a leader because you don't have enough confidence in yourself yet. If you can improve your mechanics enough, you'll be able to frontline and carry your team, outplaying the majority of the enemy and still managing to survive. As long as you keep up the "there's always something I can improve on" mentality, you'll go far in this game.
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Carnagge's Photo Carnagge Today, 11:36 AM

 Sanya_Blossom, on May 18 2013 - 07:07, said:

I've tried going over what I'd be good at, I'm definetly not a leader, I'm not gonna charge out to the front lines. I want to learn to scout but at lower tiers seems there's not much you can do since most of the tanks are on equal footing. I'm trying to power through the tiers so I can get a T-50-2 but I've been told not to do that. Ugh, where'd my fighting spirit go~?!

It's quite ok, to feel like you have cold feet, if you haven't played for a while,that feeling will go away, sooner than you think. There is nothing wrong with being cautious on the battle field; as that can actually work in your favor, as you don't seem to have the tendency to be a suicide scout or be one of the first to rush out and then get killed in the first few seconds of the game.

From your description of yourself, you might like the role of playing a support tanker, one who is not a rusher, but one who considers their options before committing yourself to any sort of action. As a support player, it's a good choice to make use of your mini map to see where the action is going on at, so you can decide where you can throw your support at, to help bolster your teams chances at winning the battle.  Doing that, you can continue to harness your skills, work on aiming and picking out weak spots in any tanks armor and then doing more meaningful damage to them.

Also at the beginning tiers (1-3) it's more of a shoot out battle, than a tactically planned one, as you get higher into the mid tiers like tier 4 you begin to start thinking about what you can do better, what are you missing in skills or need to learn to get better; and you start to get a pretty good idea as to what your style of play will be like.   At around tier 5 is when it starts to become noticable on the field, and the tanks become more than just mobile gun platforms.  Most players tend to stick aound and play at tiers 4-6, as it becomes a pretty decent way to build up your credits, continue to work on your skills and start considering what types of tank lines you want to continue working up and researching that will eventually lead you to one or more of the tier 10 tanks and competition at the highest tiers.

As you grown in confidence, you can try out things on the field, and when an opportunity presents itself, you might even be able to show a bit of initiative and take the lead; as you get more experience, your confidence grows and so will yoiur skill.........!
Edited by Carnagge, Today, 11:52 AM.
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Dogsoldier6's Photo Dogsoldier6 Today, 02:50 PM

If you are interested in learning the game Knights of the Red Table (KRT) has recently formed Knights of the Crimson Table (KRT-A) for newer and casual game players...........

The Goal of KRT-A is to help new players learn the game under the wing of some very experienced players. The main clan's KRT players WILL be available to train and platoon with if you are a member of KRT-A. Further, KRT-A has no set limits on tank tiers or number of games played, so even if you have just 50 games and tier 1 tanks you can get in.

Last, if you are not interested in this then I offer to platoon with you when time allows in game. PM me in game if you want to platoon, I have 45+ tanks and can cover everything from tier 1 to tier 10.

Good Hunting.
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JLK_250's Photo JLK_250 Today, 03:13 PM

I would have written what Carnagge did, just not as well.  There is a lot to learn in this game and it seems random at first, partly because that's the way it is in tier 1 and partly because there is so much more to learn.  Don't worry about stats at this point because it should be assumed that your stats will suck for hundreds or thousands of battles.  Take the pressure off yourself, keep it fun, and learn as fast as you can.  Being a support tank is a good thing and is what a lot of elite players do, too.
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Sierra2_1Alpha's Photo Sierra2_1Alpha Today, 03:56 PM

 Diacom, on May 18 2013 - 07:34, said:

Do not bother with the t-50-2 for some time, Until you have the t-50 mastered.

Reason, you'll go broke.  There's not much the 50-2 can do that the 50 can't.  But the one thing the 50 will do that the 50-2 wont is not cost you a fortune while you learn to play them.

I have the 50-2, and am holding on to it until they figure out for sure if we are keeping it or getting rid of it, but once that's done I'll drop back to the 50.  Your 10k alone in repair bill if you die during the match, not counting anything you shoot.  Just so you know.

Pz1C to learn active scouting and just plain fun T-15 for passive.  These two tanks have helped me more than all the others combined, and I am still learning.  and I have no idea why it says 0 battles.
Edited by Sierra2_1Alpha, Today, 03:57 PM.
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Skpstr's Photo Skpstr Today, 04:52 PM

 Sanya_Blossom, on May 18 2013 - 07:07, said:

I'm being way over cautious now, hiding in a bush instead of being an asset to the team.

Don't worry about that. Only experience will teach you what level of aggressiveness is right with which tank in which situation. I was a bush hider for the most part until I started driving Tier 6s, then I went through a phase where I was TOO aggressive. I'm better at balancing the 2 behaviours, but STILL learning, especially whenever I get a new tank.

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Reading the forums and knowing that it's a fact that the system will put you up against impossible odds so you'll lose worries me even more.

Disregard that drivel, definitely not a fact. Don't be one of those players that gets put in as low tier and disregards that they have teammates just as high-tier as the scary ones on the other team, and that there are opponents just as low as you.

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I've tried going over what I'd be good at, I'm definetly not a leader, I'm not gonna charge out to the front lines.

Don't worry about that, try lots of different tanks, you'll find types you're good at, and ones that you're not so good at, but are fun. And as you play more, that may change.
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Koschka's Photo Koschka Today, 05:30 PM

If you like hanging in the back and hiding in a bush, then play tank destroyer's. That is their primary roll, the snipers of WoT. I personally love playing them. The only tricks is learning the maps to know the good spots to find a hidey hole and then wait for the tanks in front of you to light up the enemy and then start making the enemy have a bad day.

Also at this point it is WAY to early to worry about stats. In my first 1k battles my stats where up and down and all over the place. I took advice of a friend of mine and just worked to get my hit ratio up and do my own tanks hp in damage every match. Learn the basics of fighting, watching the mini map etc. After you got say 3k battles then if you are interested start tracking your stats. By then you will have the basics down and have enough battles to have a good idea where you really are skill wise. Then you can see where and what you need to work on.

Something that might help is ask people to platoon with you, it often helps to have someone to play with. Anyways good luck and have fun.
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Silavite's Photo Silavite Today, 05:51 PM

Great site someone else found but I'm reposting: http://www.tazilon.net/index.html
The scouting styles and maps sections are EXTREMELY useful.
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Sanya_Blossom's Photo Sanya_Blossom Today, 06:15 PM

Wow, I'm still amazed at how helpful this community is! Going over that Proscout website now, I'm a little ashamed I can't remember the map names for the lower tiers. x.x
Reading over everyone's input, seems support would be better suited for me right now, I have a little practice with that when my tier I MS-1 gets thrown in against tier IIs.
Only thing with that though, is people looooove to bush camp and it becomes obvious the enemy is doing the same and everyone's just sitting around waiting to gang up on the one unlucky person who ventures out.

I'm currently using the T-60 as my go-to tier II tank but what about the BT-2 as a pre-scout learning experience? The wikia says it has poor signal range but reading over how best the tank is used seems to be a great support tank and it's speed is something I'd like.
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