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pagad #1 Posted Dec 30 2010 - 18:46

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I've had my Tiger for a while now, and honestly I love it. I am consistently raking a lot of credits and exp - 30,000+ credits and 1,000+ experience in good games - and I am having loads of fun driving it.

DeathsArrow #2 Posted Dec 30 2010 - 18:50

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I struggled with the Tiger until I got the Long 88, then it gets fun.

The biggest problem I have with the Tiger is the constant module damage. My gun gets busted constantly as well as turret ring damage.

how2skate_com #3 Posted Dec 30 2010 - 18:53

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It's pretty decent overall, but... everyone complains about everything so yeah. :mellow:

Troy_Polamalu #4 Posted Dec 30 2010 - 19:06

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View PostDeathsArrow, on Dec 30 2010 - 18:50, said:

I struggled with the Tiger until I got the Long 88, then it gets fun.

The biggest problem I have with the Tiger is the constant module damage. My gun gets busted constantly as well as turret ring damage.

Agreed. there's no game in which enemy doesnt destroy my gun/turret/ammo! absolutely in every game! the good thing is that reapir and ammo are not expensive!

bjm1702 #5 Posted Dec 30 2010 - 19:35

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It's the slowest T7 heavy, it has the weakest armour of any T7 heavy, it has the weakest gun (damage wise) of any T7 heavy and it gets constant and crippling module damage. For it being one of the most feared and deadly tanks of WWII, it's more like a domestic cat than a Tiger in WoT. I still like it though, despite it's flaws.

TracerM17 #6 Posted Dec 30 2010 - 20:18

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The grind to the long 88 w/o premium was very frustrating. Once I got the long 88 and the upgraded suspension (and premium) I started pulling in lots of credits and experience. But without all that I had lots of games where I only got 150 exp and 8000 credits. Just like the VK36 and PzIV it only shines once its upgraded and the crew is trained.

CommissarRykov #7 Posted Dec 30 2010 - 20:41

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View PostDeathsArrow, on Dec 30 2010 - 18:50, said:

I struggled with the Tiger until I got the Long 88, then it gets fun.

The biggest problem I have with the Tiger is the constant module damage. My gun gets busted constantly as well as turret ring damage.
Exactly this. The Tiger is fun to play but it is severely gimped for "historical" reasons. <_<

Finchy #8 Posted Dec 30 2010 - 21:00

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Because man its slower and totally weaker than the real life one these dang russian biased devs did it on purpose just to spite me@#@!@@!@




Seriously lol I loved my Tiger 1 when it was fully upgraded. The reason so many people complain about it is because they use it wrong. Its the first heavy German tank so they just think Oh I can totally use this as a front line tank. WRONG you sit back and support with the long 88 just like a Panzer IV would and then you will have tons of success in it.

ikiralight #9 Posted Dec 30 2010 - 22:19

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Because it's equals, IS and T29, were developed 2-4 years after the Tiger was.

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The T29 was based upon a lengthened version of the T26E3 hull and featured heavier armor, an uprated Ford GAC engine providing about 750 bhp (560 kW), and a massive new turret incorporating the high velocity 105 mm gun T5. It weighed about 70 tons and was highly comparable to the German Tiger II in terms of both firepower and protection.
Even if Wikipedia might not always be accurate, this should tell you enough. T29 is a tank developed in 1944+ and made to deal with Tiger II and Panthers...


And in reality the Tiger was better than the IS, Tigers took out more russians than vice versa. Mainly due to the range advantage and having better crews, but still, you don't see this in WoT. Some people do say that it should be taken as a compliment that the Tiger got put on the same tier with tanks designed ~3 years later, but really, I don't think it matters to anyone when you see the enemy top tank is a T29. You will lose 1v1 if both players have maxed tanks and no player skill/terrain advantage for either.

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View Postikiralight, on Dec 30 2010 - 22:19, said:

Because it's equals, IS and T29, were developed 2-4 years after the Tiger was.


Even if Wikipedia might not always be accurate, this should tell you enough. T29 is a tank developed in 1944+ and made to deal with Tiger II and Panthers...


And in reality the Tiger was better than the IS, Tigers took out more russians than vice versa. Mainly due to the range advantage and having better crews, but still, you don't see this in WoT. Some people do say that it should be taken as a compliment that the Tiger got put on the same tier with tanks designed ~3 years later, but really, I don't think it matters to anyone when you see the enemy top tank is a T29. You will lose 1v1 if both players have maxed tanks and no player skill/terrain advantage for either.
Not only that but IS crews were known to abandon their tanks at the very sight of a Tiger.

winghun #11 Posted Dec 31 2010 - 09:55

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Tiger I would be a decent tank, but it needs

1) some more armor
2) MUCH less module damage. Yesterday an arty shell exploded 1m away from my Tiger and caused 2 module damages (gun and ammo) while I lost no HPs. I couldn't believe my eyes.

Makikou #12 Posted Dec 31 2010 - 10:14

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I think the Tiger is just fine, and i saw someone dizzing the Long 88. too. Well let me tell you that it's penetration and DPS outclasses many guns in-game.

eviljezza #13 Posted Dec 31 2010 - 10:30

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Why does it need more armour? its values are more or less correct. And I loved my Tiger 1 wish I didnt sell it, but I agree though you do need to get the long 88 ASAP.

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View Posteviljezza, on Dec 31 2010 - 10:30, said:

Why does it need more armour? its values are more or less correct. And I loved my Tiger 1 wish I didnt sell it, but I agree though you do need to get the long 88 ASAP.
Something needs to be fixed as the module damage is insane. It is by far the worst tank I have played in terms of module damage.

theta0123 #15 Posted Dec 31 2010 - 10:53

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I have a theory, but i'll attract -1 because it is the truth


I had all the tier 7 now's, and the Tiger I is just as good as the other ones. The most impressive feature about the tiger is its far better penetrating gun/rof/accuracy. The Tiger I performs far better vs tier 8's then the IS for example.


Great tank, once i have the Panther II, im going back to the tiger line, because i miss that tank. Then i'll have all the tier 7 heavies

The only thing the tiger should get, is some better view range (only 10m more then IS at the moment) and its correct speed of 36km/h

ikiralight #16 Posted Dec 31 2010 - 11:32

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The tank itself is fine in game. Just don't try to dogfight with T29s and IS unless they have less than full HP or you outnumber them.

Sharana #17 Posted Dec 31 2010 - 12:06

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The TigerІ is NOT ok !!!
I don't know where is the problem in the new updates but now the Tiger is nothing! I have Tiger with best turret and gun. I can penetrate the frontal armor of IS only with gold bullets! Many times I can't penetrate the side armor of KV...and 20min ago I was very angry when KV1S shoot me 30% with one hit IN THE FRONTAL ARMOR and kill me...
You need to make something about to balance the tiger..
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Messias #18 Posted Dec 31 2010 - 12:06

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I haven't played much with my brandnew Tiger yet (26 battles) but I don't feel bad when doing so. Although I only have the turret upgraded I feel like I am adding something to my team. The sheer frustration I sometimes had grinding through my Hetzer and T-28 didn't happend yet with the Tiger. I also one shotted a Maus two days ago. First shot with HE set him on fire and he wasn't able to put it out. That battle gave me a huge XP.

So, I like the tanks as it is now, and it will be better with each module I will unlock.

Don71 #19 Posted Dec 31 2010 - 12:13

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Seriously lol I loved my Tiger 1 when it was fully upgraded. The reason so many people complain about it is because they use it wrong. Its the first heavy German tank so they just think Oh I can totally use this as a front line tank. WRONG you sit back and support with the long 88 just like a Panzer IV would and then you will have tons of success in it.

Well said and totally true. It's the best support heavy tank because of:

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The most impressive feature about the tiger is its far better penetrating gun/rof/accuracy. The Tiger I performs far better vs tier 8's then the IS for example.

The gun with the rof and accuracy can be a Rockstar if played with good overview.

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I can penetrate the frontal armor of IS only with gold bullets! Many times I can't penetrate the side armor of KV.

Sorry I doubt that. I can penetrate every IS and IS3 frontal with the long 8,8cm L71 with normal AP. The IS3 and IS are very easy to penetrate without autoaim

theta0123 #20 Posted Dec 31 2010 - 12:30

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View PostSharana, on Dec 31 2010 - 12:06, said:

The TigerІ is NOT ok !!!
I don't know where is the problem in the new updates but now the Tiger is nothing! I have Tiger with best turret and gun. I can penetrate the frontal armor of IS only with gold bullets! Many times I can't penetrate the side armor of KV...and 20min ago I was very angry when KV1S shoot me 30% with one hit IN THE FRONTAL ARMOR and kill me...
You need to make something about to balance the tiger..
Regards
Vyacheslav
Even now does my 88MM L51 with 130mm average penetration penetrates the IS frontally 50% of all times

The 88mm l71 has 203mm average penetration, and my memory is still fresh how it easily pierced the Front of IS and even IS3.




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