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FlorbFnarb #1 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 06:44

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It's actually not a technique I've ever used much - it always felt too risky to me, exposing my sides like that. Still, based on bouncing a shot from an SU-122-44 with the side armor on my Tiger H...yeah. Gonna have to start sidescraping more often.

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GravitationL #2 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 06:47

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FV215b HT drilled sidescraping into my soul...

Look_its_Rain #3 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 06:47

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educate the masses

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AurenNorizawa #4 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 06:50

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Invaluable

Saved me soo many times

FlorbFnarb #5 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 06:50

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It's probably one of those things I should have started doing several thousand matches ago...but the American tanks I started on have such thin side armor that there's less margin for error.  The KV-1 I usually just angled heavily, and the KV-1S has such a long reload time that I peekaboo and then retreat behind cover entirely rather than remain exposed sidescraping.

PeanutFly #6 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 06:50

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View PostArisato_Minato, on Jun 29 2013 - 06:47, said:

FV215b HT drilled sidescraping into my soul...
I actually liked using the Maus for it on the test server. The great thing about sidescraping with a tank that has a reear mounted turret is that you can just sit there and fire back, while bouncing shell after shell :playing:
With the Maus, you just have to remember to angle your turret away while you're reloading, or people will shoot at the flat part of your turret.

Endoe #7 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 06:51

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I took out a T95 by hitting it in the cupola 8 times while it bounced 6 shots off the side of my Lowe the other day. I love the sidescrape. But keep it quiet. Shhhh

T2Terminator #8 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 06:53

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Almost 3 years playing this game and I've yet to master sidescraping :(

noupperlobeman #9 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 06:54

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Kv-5 is the king of sidescraping.

It's the closest thing to invincible you can get in this game.

LukaR #10 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 06:56

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There have been some good posts on here recently explaining this technique very well. Even I understood what they were trying to explain. I have to make myself try it whenever the opportunity presents itself. Im sure I get varied results but thats down to me getting the angle not quite right. More practise required. When it works the potential damage received in the results screen can make your eyes bulge. I would recommend trying it and the best of luck and skill to you.

FlorbFnarb #11 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 07:03

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Yup.  I'm not sure what made the light go off in my head and say "Hey doofus, don't try to peekaboo the SU-122-44 in a goddamn Tiger, sidescrape instead", but I'm glad it did.  Probably saved my ass.

Gyarados #12 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 07:11

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I've been trying to side scrape more often because it's not something that I used to do very often. I'm noticing a difference with the E-100, but I haven't really tried it much with other tanks, didn't even think about it with the Tiger because of it's pitiful side armor. I'll have to give it a shot sometime.

jackaroni #13 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 07:15

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Side-scraped a hill on "mines" in my M-4 with the 76 against 3 t1ht's while our heavies pushed middle and island, we won 15-10, got 2 of them, yes a little gold was applied; anyway, it is a very effective technique when used correctly!

SaoPaulo #14 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 07:15

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I sidescrape in my T29. Its turret is too far forward so what I do is my drive my rear fully into the object I want to sidescrape with and my front facing away from the target while showing a bit of my side and just enough of my turret to shoot while hiding most of my commanders hatch.

I really wonder what side scraping in a VK 45.02 P is like. Must be glorious.

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View Postnoupperlobeman, on Jun 29 2013 - 06:54, said:

Kv-5 is the king of sidescraping.

It's the closest thing to invincible you can get in this game.

I would disagree, the maus is the king of sidescraping. Ain't nothing getting through that angled armor.

XJCL #16 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 07:26

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I use it a lot in my FCM 50t, mostly because it's pretty much the only way I ever bounce anything in it.

noupperlobeman #17 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 07:28

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View PostUnholy_Death, on Jun 29 2013 - 07:19, said:

I would disagree, the maus is the king of sidescraping. Ain't nothing getting through that angled armor.

Kv-5 is the tier 8 maus.



Sgt_Kachalin #18 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 08:22

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Practice. With buddies in training rooms. It's a perfect example of a technique that training rooms are made for.

Sidescraping itself is a marginal technique, tho. Because your opponent has to cooperate. A good player won't lose a shot to a sidescraper, he'll get a better angle before firing.

FlorbFnarb #19 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 13:03

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View PostSgt_Kachalin, on Jun 29 2013 - 08:22, said:

Practice. With buddies in training rooms. It's a perfect example of a technique that training rooms are made for.Sidescraping itself is a marginal technique, tho. Because your opponent has to cooperate. A good player won't lose a shot to a sidescraper, he'll get a better angle before firing.

True, but sidescraping forces him to spend the time doing that.

F0R_M07H3R_RU5514 #20 Posted Jun 29 2013 - 13:51

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View PostSgt_Kachalin, on Jun 29 2013 - 08:22, said:

Sidescraping itself is a marginal technique, tho. Because your opponent has to cooperate. A good player won't lose a shot to a sidescraper, he'll get a better angle before firing.

Less than 4% of the players on the server are good, so it may be a marginal technique, but it sure works a bunch.

I had my KV-5 in a reverse-sidescrape, yesterday, and the pubbies had me perma-tracked, but I didn't care, because they were all zero damage shots.  All the while, I was pelting them for 4700 damage and destroyed four of them and got a Confederate medal.