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CoolAndy34 #1 Posted Jul 23 2013 - 10:43

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Hello tankers!

I have heard that the upcoming soviet medium line would consist of 5 tanks, including the Object 430 as top tier.

The Object 430 is an early prototype of the T-64, which would have apparently around 120mm of frontal hull armour including some extreme sloped angles. It was designed in 1957 and had a top speed of 55. Engine horse power would be 580 hp.

The tank consists of 4 crew members. It is armed with a 100mm D-54TS cannon.

Don't know if they would choose a more powerful cannon.


Whoever neg'd me at the comment below please tell me why, I was only saying my own opinion. And i didn't mean to offend you. All i said was my guess of this tank's future characteristics.



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panzer2363 #2 Posted Jul 23 2013 - 10:46

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ya that's what the Russian line needed, more damn god turrets to not be able to pen.

Silentstalker2 #3 Posted Jul 23 2013 - 11:01

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Hmmmm wrote about it here

http://ftr.wot-news....-soviet-medium/

(hope it's useful)

TheWackyWombat #4 Posted Jul 23 2013 - 14:49

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Yeah, the design is so similar to the T-62A I have no idea what the point of this tank is going to be.

I know some people were disapointed the T-62A wasn't a carbon copy of the T-54 when it was first released, and I guess this could slip into the role. If it had a gun with damage and ROF between the 121 and T-62A, but with a longer aim times, with slightly higher armor then the T-62A I could see it as a brawler... I guess.

Like Silent points out, there doesn't seem to be much point to implement the 430. The T-62A and 121 already represent two designs in that style of medium tank and it would be difficult for WG to slot the 403 without making one of the three instantly obsolete.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they have in mind, but I really don't know if they can make something unique enough to be worth it.

Shrike58 #5 Posted Jul 23 2013 - 14:52

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I guess if 2.000.000 Russian WoT players want something they get it.

Look, I like Russian medium tanks as much as the next player but this just doesn't interest me.

lordelamin #6 Posted Jul 23 2013 - 15:25

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I'd bite if it were a tank with T54 speed and a T62A gun. THAT would be something! My biggest disappointment is the T62A is slower that the T54, but with slightly better rate of fire/penetration. I'm working my way up the Chinese line now trying to get a better medium. I fear the reload time of the tier X Chinese gun will be slower however.

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i Primarily play med and the first tier 10 med was the 62a. I love the differences between the 62 and the 54. And I can't wait to see what the new object has for a gun and abilities.

majsteven #8 Posted Jul 23 2013 - 18:34

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I want object 430U with that auto loader...

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View PostShrike58, on Jul 23 2013 - 14:52, said:

I guess if 2.000.000 Russian WoT players want something they get it.



This ^^^.

Plus with tank locking, your T62A may not be available for almost 3 days, so you need a spare.

astrophysics98 #10 Posted Jul 23 2013 - 20:13

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It will most likely have some differences to keep it seperate from the T-62A. Looks like armor might be one of them.

CoolAndy34 #11 Posted Jul 23 2013 - 22:19

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View PostTheWackyWombat, on Jul 23 2013 - 14:49, said:

Yeah, the design is so similar to the T-62A I have no idea what the point of this tank is going to be.

I know some people were disapointed the T-62A wasn't a carbon copy of the T-54 when it was first released, and I guess this could slip into the role. If it had a gun with damage and ROF between the 121 and T-62A, but with a longer aim times, with slightly higher armor then the T-62A I could see it as a brawler... I guess.

Like Silent points out, there doesn't seem to be much point to implement the 430. The T-62A and 121 already represent two designs in that style of medium tank and it would be difficult for WG to slot the 403 without making one of the three instantly obsolete.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they have in mind, but I really don't know if they can make something unique enough to be worth it.
True. There's just too many tanks of the similar designs, but however; I guess they will give the 430 a worser gun but better armour and mobility. But this tank however did change the way russia built tanks. T-64's design was a heavy influence on the T-72.



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Edited by CoolAndy34, Jul 25 2013 - 10:04.


ComradeHX #12 Posted Jul 24 2013 - 00:41

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What I really wanted to know is whether tanks before it will be any decent.

Slash78 #13 Posted Jul 24 2013 - 07:53

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A new Russian medium line?  Is that super needed right now?  They've been working on two lines for the Brits, one with the AC-1, AC-4 and Ram and another "Lend-Lease" that has the Sherman Firefly.  Though nothing about the A30 Challenger, Valiant or other tanks.  They couldn't maybe add a line of useful tanks to the Brits?  (Not now marginal arty).  

Then there is the Japanese line that could be added.  Or at least part of a Euro line (still wish Italy would get it's own).

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View PostSlash78, on Jul 24 2013 - 07:53, said:

A new Russian medium line?  Is that super needed right now?\
Considering where developers are from...

hoom #15 Posted Jul 24 2013 - 15:14

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Absolutely another Russian Med line is super needed right now.

US has their 2nd 'Med' line.
Germany has their 2nd Med line.
Why should the Russians wait?

People do play Russian tanks, people enjoy Russian tanks.
I'm one of them & I'm thrilled.

However, chances that almost any of these will be widely regarded as decent, fun tanks is actually pretty low.
See 2nd Russian TD line & 2nd Russian Heavy lines for a whole heap of examples of the mediocrity that WG deliver in order to try to disprove Russianbias.

skaeke #16 Posted Jul 24 2013 - 17:38

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Any word on where it will start from on the current tree? if there are 5 tanks to add and it branches off from a medium that would suggest the t-34 is the branching point...

T___A #17 Posted Jul 24 2013 - 18:03

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View PostCoolAndy34, on Jul 23 2013 - 10:43, said:

The Object 430 is an early prototype of the T-64, which would have apparently around 160mm of frontal hull armour including some extreme sloped angles. It was designed in 1957 and had a top speed of 55. Engine horse power would be 580 hp.

The tank consists of 4 crew members. It is armed with a 100mm D-54TS cannon.

Don't know if they would choose a more powerful cannon or decrease the hull armor

Wrong the Object 430 has 120mm of armor, the one with 160 is the Object 430U, the egnine would be 600HP, and the gun is the U-8TS

View Postmajsteven, on Jul 23 2013 - 18:34, said:

I want object 430U with that auto loader...
Object 430U doesn't have one.

Joe_B #18 Posted Jul 24 2013 - 18:22

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I was hoping it would be a shorter path like the really old tech tree (before there were X mediums).
I can't remember if it was a new 7 off the T-34-85 to a 9 or just an 8 off the T-43 to another 9.

Slash78 #19 Posted Jul 24 2013 - 19:33

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View Posthoom, on Jul 24 2013 - 15:14, said:

Absolutely another Russian Med line is super needed right now.

US has their 2nd 'Med' line.
Germany has their 2nd Med line.
Why should the Russians wait?

People do play Russian tanks, people enjoy Russian tanks.
I'm one of them & I'm thrilled.

However, chances that almost any of these will be widely regarded as decent, fun tanks is actually pretty low.
See 2nd Russian TD line & 2nd Russian Heavy lines for a whole heap of examples of the mediocrity that WG deliver in order to try to disprove Russianbias.

After Tier 4 the Brits have 3 lines.  They'll have a fourth Arty line, but arty is much rarer.  To me the Brits and French should get another line of something, anything.  

Right now the Russians have 55 vehicles with 8 premiums currently available.  They will be getting 6 new mediums, for a total of 61 playable non-premium tanks.  French have 37 playable vehicles and 2 permiums.  Brits have 34 vehicles and 4 premiums.  They will be getting 9 new vehicles, but who's going to want to start grinding through a brand new (and admittedly weak) arty line, especially after the 8.6 changes?

Americans?  49 current vehicles and 5 premiums.  Germans?  58 vehicles with 8 premiums.  

Then there are the Chinese with only 17 vehicles.  No telling when they'll get a M10 with Japanese 105mm field gun fitted with it as a TD, the PzI, a Sherman or the Type 63.  

Then there is the Euro and Japanese trees.  Maybe they want to roll them out at the same time.  IDK.

majsteven #20 Posted Jul 24 2013 - 20:23

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View PostT___A, on Jul 24 2013 - 18:03, said:

Wrong the Object 430 has 120mm of armor, the one with 160 is the Object 430U, the egnine would be 600HP, and the gun is the U-8TSObject 430U doesn't have one.

You're right...I read the wrong section :(