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GXPTG #41 Posted May 08 2010 - 16:14

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Wow, some amazing shots there folks. Thanks.  :Smile_great:

Palora #42 Posted May 09 2010 - 11:02

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I didn't see any 'WW 2 only' warnings in the OP so i'll mix em up a bit

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I never really realized how big that turret was until now.

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The drive of this one had a little accident.

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Syrian pz 4

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This was a ferdinand

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Palora #43 Posted May 09 2010 - 13:05

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*drat drat , double post again... can we maybe get a delete post button please*

Palora #44 Posted May 09 2010 - 13:05

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View PostSpharv2, on Feb 18 2010 - 16:50, said:

...seeing as how they could have gotten equivalent armor protection with a much lighter load of properly sloped armor...

Wrong, "sloped armour offers no weight benefit when protecting a certain area. A comparison of a vertical slab of armour on the left and a section of armour sloped at an angle of 45 degrees on the right. The horizontal distance through the armour (black arrows) is the same, but the normal thickness of the sloped armour (green arrow) is less. It can be seen that the actual cross-sectional area of armour, and hence its mass, is the same in each case; for a given mass the normal would have to decrease if the slope is increased."

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Palora #45 Posted May 09 2010 - 13:06

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*ffs, don't mind me i'm drunk with air, i'm replying to posts from a couple of months*

janizki #46 Posted May 10 2010 - 16:53

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go get some finnish vodka to help you pass out = D

BravoM5 #47 Posted May 10 2010 - 20:04

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Cool pics everyone. :)

janizki #48 Posted May 11 2010 - 13:45

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cmdr he was drunk what would you expect...you expect wikipedia..(its taken from there=

Palora #49 Posted May 16 2010 - 14:21

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I don't surf the internet while drunk, nor do i get drunk more then once a year, i just don't pay enough attention in general, also slope armor does not save weight, since you have to cover a larger area then you would with vertical armor to get the same result, the main advantage of slope armor is deflection (which is kinda redundant now a days in modern combat, good thing modern combat now a days happens between modern armies and insurgents with 'vintage' weapons).

Anyway:
King Tiger
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Another one
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Panthers side by side ... looks like the bocage.
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'Modern' Warfare.
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This one is for you Blackout77, melted Bradly IFV.
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Palora #50 Posted May 17 2010 - 16:10

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View PostCVRTcmdr, on May 16 2010 - 22:51, said:

Ok so i dug this out...

*sigh* can't believe i am answering to an off topic to something i have already answered somewhere else, "more efficient form" not sloping the armor per se, also if you would have read further you would have gotten to this "The mere fact that the LOS-thickness increases by angling the plate is not however the motive for applying sloped armour in armoured vehicle design. The reason for this is that this increase offers no weight benefit. To maintain a given mass of a vehicle, the area density would have to remain equal and this implies that the LOS-thickness would also have to remain constant while the slope increases, which again implies that the normal thickness decreases. In other words: to avoid increasing the weight of the vehicle, plates have to get proportionally thinner while their slope increases, a process equivalent to shearing  the mass." (as well as a nice picture of shearing in effect)

In other words, 1 ton of steel is just as heavy if it's a block or a 5cm thin sheet. See, i've already read that and other similar pages more then once, and i also used a lot less B in my reply , now by my calculations you owe us 3 post with destroyed tanks.

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Can some one tell me what tank this is, i can't figure it out
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Kurt_Knispel #51 Posted May 18 2010 - 16:44

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Beyond the weight saving there is also a certain amount of energy deflected upwards away from the tank rather than having to be absorbed by the armor. This is less of a factor with modern levels of energy but it's still there. A rod penetrator can also sometimes be bent or deformed by the deflection significantly reducing it's penetration.

Palora #52 Posted May 19 2010 - 14:07

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Are you going to let this one go?

"On the face of it, slope should not impact on armor design at all since the more you incline a plate to armor a volume or profile, the more material you need to cover that profile. Where slope becomes a factor is in the effect it has on the attacking projectile." <---Armor Basics

In other words, your 'weight reduction' doesn't apply, sloped armor gets thinner to maintain the same weight as a non sloped armor tank would have. I.E. IF you sloped the armor on the Tiger 1 and maintain the thickness it would have been a hell of a lot heavier. The advantage of slope armor is deflection, because of deflection sloped armor is less likely to be penetrated then vertical armor of the same relative thickness. To put it simply what's longer > I <  or >/ < ? (or I_I vs \_/ ) ?

here's another quote:

"The increased protection caused by increasing the slope while keeping the plate thickness constant, is due to a proportional increase of area density and thus mass, and thus offers no weight benefit. Therefore the other possible effects of sloping, such as deflection, deforming and ricochet of a projectill, have been the reasons to apply sloped armour in armoured vehicles design. " from a site that sells wedge-shaped spaced add on armor for the Leopard 2A4

L.E. *Sigh* there ,answered to your post (the one after this one) look for B ... do you even read this stuff or just glance over see "sloping no weight" and post? BTW Leopard didn't have slope armor :P ... you also didn't answer my simple question 'what is longer?'.

P.S. Still no destroyed tanks pictures...

Palora #53 Posted May 20 2010 - 20:49

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Read my edited post up there ^ for slope armor advantages , also fyi i haven't said that slope armor is useless, i said it doesn't save weight... again READ EVERYTHING, and start posting tanks.

anyway tanks (Israeli):

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The ER-armour of Magach 6 was effective against anti-tank missiles and rocket-propelled grenades used by the Syrians, but not yet perfect. This Magach was one of two confirmed victims of Syrian Army anti-tank teams during the fighting in June 1982. (US DoD via Tom Cooper)

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Another victim of Syrian anti-tank teams was this Merkava Mk.1, destroyed in Beirut, in early summer 1982 by an RPG. The Israelis subsequently mounted a local counterattack and recovered the wreckage. (ACIG.org archives)

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PvtMalo_ #54 Posted Jun 01 2010 - 15:13

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Great pictures you guys been posting! interesting ones ive never seen before

Palora #55 Posted Jun 02 2010 - 19:42

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just a quick fun one

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SovereignT #56 Posted Jun 05 2010 - 00:54

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Flipped KV2  :P
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and one of my personal favorites from the Korean war
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:Smile-playing:

Palora #57 Posted Jun 09 2010 - 18:34

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View PostBlackout77, on Jun 09 2010 - 16:13, said:

You're not funny, stop trying.

can i try? "Tanks: for when the Air Force needs to hit that bridge."

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I wonder if he's calling to brag that he blew it up, or that it was his and it got blown up?
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Darth_Conrad #58 Posted Jun 10 2010 - 04:29

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View PostSovereignT, on Jun 05 2010 - 00:54, said:

Flipped KV2  :P
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and one of my personal favorites from the Korean war
http://upload.wikime...N-99-03158.JPEG
:Smile-playing:

My guess is either the driver tried to pop a wheelie or he forgot how to do a barrel roll.

ErwinRommel #59 Posted Jun 10 2010 - 04:30

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http://forum.worldof...t&attach_id=296


that is why you can't smoke next to the ammunition of a tank :P

GXPTG #60 Posted Jun 12 2010 - 05:09

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Christian? Are you part of panzerworld.net / panzerphotos.dk? Did you actually take those pictures or collect them over the years?

I love the JadPanther. The gouges in the armor just never cease to amaze me. I mean, just how tough tanks were/are and the abuse they can take.




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