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B33PB33P #1 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:25

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Primary Goal: Create a Clan Power Ranking that encompasses:
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-SKILL (WN7)
-CLAN WARS CAPABILITY (WOTCS)
-CLAN WARS RESULTS (land holdings, gold revenue)
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Secondary Goal: Measure and find the effects of DIPLO, CHIP MOVEMENT, and other META-GAME factors that lead to CLAN SUCCESS.

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Clan Rating Formula V.3 (Oct 2, 2013)
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Formula Breakdown - Conceptual (August 30, 2013)
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Oct 22, 2013
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Ranking
Top 5: -G- (99), OTTER (91), RELIC (90), PBKAC (90), SPICY (86)
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6-10: HAVOK (84), -_- (83), RUS (80), FORGE (80), VOLT (77)
11-15: REL_3 (71), SIMP (71), CHAI (70), BT (70), RDDT (70)
16-20: VILIN (69), CRABS (68), NTR (67), RS (66), REL-2 (64)
21-25: ACES (62), NOVAC (59), _W_W_ (58), SU (57), ANVIL (55)
26-30: -J- (54), DFA (54), SG (50), -M-A- (48), TYR (48)
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Data Table
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Under Development + Clan Ranking Limitations (aka factors we should include in the future, wherever possible)
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+1 for more updates!

artacuno53 #2 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:28

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You listed reddit and red sky twice
EDIT: He fixed it

Edited by artacuno53, Aug 27 2013 - 19:36.


B33PB33P #3 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:29

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View Postartacuno53, on Aug 27 2013 - 19:28, said:

You listed reddit and red sky twice
typo. fixing.

Guest_B0B_Ross_* #4 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:30

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I still dont see the number 1 clan na

Aquavolt #5 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:32

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What kind of ignorant glue sniffing bozo neg reps a thread like this?

B33PB33P #6 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:34

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View PostAquavolt, on Aug 27 2013 - 19:32, said:

What kind of ignorant glue sniffing bozo neg reps a thread like this?
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I just see 0. Thanks for fixing if negging took place! :honoring:

DunxtonChexton #7 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:36

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No importance given to wars being fought, nor blatant overextension.

You can do better Beep, continue. :thumbsup:

B33PB33P #8 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:38

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View PostDunxtonChexton, on Aug 27 2013 - 19:36, said:

No importance given to wars being fought, nor blatant overextension.
You can do better Beep, continue. :thumbsup:
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:teethhappy:
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the result and performance in the wars being fought is indirectly measured by # of lands held and gold income.
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analysis of "blatant overextension" can be found here:
http://forum.worldof...r-clan-deserve/

GabrielAngelos #9 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:40

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Otter pulls of the map to fight in a war.
Loses 40% of the clans score.

Guest_B0B_Ross_* #10 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:43

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In all serious though stats are marginal predictors at best.  Look at hardware russ and havok.  Havok is clearly not the same after some migrating players.  Paper tiger comes to mind.

_Lance_ #11 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:45

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Oh damn I hope ziddy doesn't realize that my wn7 is holding the clam bake back from the 5th spot. I might be in deep shit here, thanks OP.

DunxtonChexton #12 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:46

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Doesn't analyze the softstat intangibles of a clan that differentiates RELIC from say SIMP.

Apropo, VILIN is in tier 2, yet was completely dumpstered by a tier 3 clan (OTTER) under this analysis, as a direct correlation of the personel OTTER mobilized. Meanwhile, a known paper tiger resides in tier 1, Havok.

Dig deeper, we're about to start sending televisions to Africa to cure their life expectancy deficits.

Mizerable #13 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:47

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This chart isn't really accurate, don't get your jimmies rustled fellas. Too many factors are ignored. Things like re-roll wn7 inflation and field commander depth, among other things, come to mind.

B33PB33P #14 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:47

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View PostGabrielAngelos, on Aug 27 2013 - 19:40, said:

Otter pulls of the map to fight in a war.
Loses 40% of the clans score.
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OTTER has not been holding significant gold/land in over 2 weeks. Given the 14 day weighted average, OTTER's gold/land score portion is low. :confused:
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I can't otter-matically give you fuzzy creatures high scores just cuz GrannyW is awesome sauce you know!

Guest_B0B_Ross_* #15 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:49

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View PostMizerable, on Aug 27 2013 - 19:47, said:

This chart isn't really accurate, don't get your jimmies rustled fellas. Too many factors are ignored. Things like re-roll wn7 inflation and field commander depth, among other things, come to mind.

Fc'S are probably the biggest factor bar none, seeing the way some of the top callers do it from G and Old school Havok are insane, they are just on a different level.

B33PB33P #16 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:51

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View PostDunxtonChexton, on Aug 27 2013 - 19:46, said:

Doesn't analyze the softstat intangibles of a clan that differentiates RELIC from say SIMP.

Apropo, VILIN is in tier 2, yet was completely dumpstered by a tier 3 clan (OTTER) under this analysis, as a direct correlation of the personel OTTER mobilized. Meanwhile, a known paper tiger resides in tier 1, Havok.

Dig deeper, we're about to start sending televisions to Africa to cure their life expectancy deficits.
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These rankings aren't meant to be used for "#2 fights #5, so #2 should win".
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These rankings represent the sum of player skill, CW capability, CW gold generation, land holdings.
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Similarly, top ranked sports teams don't win the championships every year either.

DunxtonChexton #17 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:51

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This is an intriguing intellectual question with someone with Beep's skills could partially answer empirically; are there datasets or metadata within the WoT-recorded statistics that can describe a clan's performance in CW? Obviously there are variables not accounted for yet, and some unresolved confounding ones as well.

_Lance_ #18 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:51

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View PostB0B_Ross, on Aug 27 2013 - 19:49, said:

Fc'S are probably the biggest factor bar none, seeing the way some of the top callers do it from G and Old school Havok are insane, they are just on a different level.
This^
I don't care how your tankers look, they can be purp'd from gun to fuel tanks and they're still gonna fail BIG at cw without a competent FC(s).

B33PB33P #19 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:52

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View PostDunxtonChexton, on Aug 27 2013 - 19:51, said:

This is an intriguing intellectual question with someone with Beep's skills could partially answer empirically; are there datasets or metadata within the WoT-recorded statistics that can describe a clan's performance in CW? Obviously there are variables not accounted for yet, and some unresolved confounding ones as well.
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if you can point me to the source of this data, or guide me to gathering that data, i'd happily include it in the next iteration of these rankings.

Mizerable #20 Posted Aug 27 2013 - 19:53

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View PostBeepBeep123, on Aug 27 2013 - 19:51, said:

CW capability

Pretty sure when purple was around they ranked high on this chart, how can you say this is indicative of CW capability after what happened to them? I know you spent a lot of time on this, I respect you doing stuff for the community, but lets not try to act like this is an accurate depiction of CW capability.





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