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Indien-Panzer 1954

Jetu's Photo Jetu Jan 30 2011

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http://www.secretpro...pic,1863.0.html

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smurf:
Not so long as I thought.  Brief details (and your drawing on a mid-grey background) in Spielberger's Waffensystem Leopard 1 and 2.  There is a small artist's impression in which the road wheels are fully visible, no return rollers.  Looks a bit like a T-54 with very long gun.
Very much a joint effort.  Porsche for overall design; Daimler-Benz MB837A 8-cyl diesel; Zahnradfabrik AG of Friedrichshafen for track etc; Ruhrstahl for turret and gun.  Production in India by TATA was intended.  Indian optics, sights.
Date 1954-55
Intended to meet an Indian need for a 36-39 ton tank, the German submission would probably have been around 40 tons.  Power to weight 16.7 hp/ton so around 670 hp; top speed 50km/h,  90mm gun.  Armour 90mm, up to 130mm turret face, cast steel.

I've a larger artist's impression somewhere, probably as a photocopy, but I don't think I can do better than this.  The project fell through, with nothing built.  The Indians eventually went for the Vickers MBT, production beginning in 1964.



Anyone have more info/pictures of it? Sounds pretty interesting.
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Jetu's Photo Jetu Jan 31 2011

Well, got to view two more pictures, had to register to the website to view. :)

http://img522.images.../8467/indpz.jpg

http://img526.images...ndienpanzer.jpg
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goggles's Photo goggles Feb 12 2011

this should be added to the german tree for sure after all the russians and americans get postwar tanks why not germany?
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Da7K's Photo Da7K Feb 13 2011

 goggles, on Feb 12 2011 - 20:34, said:

this should be added to the german tree for sure after all the russians and americans get postwar tanks why not germany?

i don't think they will add it because the max year was 1953 i think
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KillingMeSoftly's Photo KillingMeSoftly Feb 20 2011

 Da7K, on Feb 13 2011 - 15:17, said:

i don't think they will add it because the max year was 1953 i think

Very convenient year for Soviet tank design.
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Luftwaffle's Photo Luftwaffle Feb 20 2011

There is no specific cut-off date, rather tanks are added to trees where needed. I know the French tree has several tanks developed in the mid to late fifties.

Anyway, interesting design here. That's one hell of a slope on the frontal armor.
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goggles's Photo goggles Mar 13 2011

pretty pretty please add this to the german tree :P
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kindaknown's Photo kindaknown Mar 30 2011

ive seen this tank before, if i remember correctly it was made for the swiss
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Ogopogo's Photo Ogopogo Mar 31 2011

 Luftwaffle, on Feb 20 2011 - 22:41, said:

There is no specific cut-off date, rather tanks are added to trees where needed. I know the French tree has several tanks developed in the mid to late fifties.

Anyway, interesting design here. That's one hell of a slope on the frontal armor.


In that case would later light tanks be possible? As they need to be a number of years ahead to be as good as some of the higher tier mediums or heavy tanks
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skullorz's Photo skullorz Mar 31 2011

This looks like a Lowe
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3rdguards's Photo 3rdguards Apr 09 2011

 skullorz, on Mar 31 2011 - 03:05, said:

This looks like a Lowe
yep that is what i was going to say and i think that it is a Lowe, because i've seen those design plans before.
but i could be wrong
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wcompumike's Photo wcompumike Dec 13 2011

perhaps it's a continuation of the lowe's design?
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vs125r's Photo vs125r Dec 13 2011

 Da7K, on Feb 13 2011 - 15:17, said:

i don't think they will add it because the max year was 1953 i think
Tell that to Type-59.
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Abacab81's Photo Abacab81 Dec 13 2011

Vickers MBT.  Designed and built for India as the "Vyjanta", as well as a handful of other countries.  

The Swedish "S" Tank.

If the late fifties is the cut off, then that leaves out the Leopard I.

Too bad no wheeled vehicles.  The South African "Eland" armored car would make a great scout, as would the British "Saladin".  

That's all I can think of..
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VanPelt's Photo VanPelt Jul 01 2012

Well it looks like this is being added to follow after the DB. SWWEEEEEEEEEEET! :Smile_glasses:
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