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Poll: Over Power tank needs nerfing (257 members have cast votes)

Nerf FV215 183? or Boost all other tanks?

  1. Nerf FV215 183 (69 votes [26.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.14%

  2. Boost other tanks (24 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  3. Neutral Vote (171 votes [64.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.77%

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Kanzler_Bismarck #61 Posted Nov 11 2013 - 21:07

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It is amazing how many tanks this thing light on fire though.

Edbert #62 Posted Nov 13 2013 - 16:34

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The only time I truly fear the 183 is when he has not been spotted, once he's lit there's something you can do to take him out. Unseen that beastly gun can...no WILL...wreak havok. I think I've killed more 183s than have been killed by them.

Sanka_Rea #63 Posted Nov 19 2013 - 21:38

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As a IS-7 player i hate 183  :sad: and that thing have decent frontal armor.... it can almost kill an IS-7 in one shot o,0

macrossfighter #64 Posted Nov 21 2013 - 06:54

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View PostSanka_Rea, on Nov 19 2013 - 21:38, said:

As a IS-7 player i hate 183  :sad: and that thing have decent frontal armor.... it can almost kill an IS-7 in one shot o,0

As a 183 player, I hate it when IS-7s show their side to me because that means I'll just hit them for 500 damage in their magical spaced armor.

ninjamanfish #65 Posted Nov 21 2013 - 16:01

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The tanks is balanced and is the best tank in the British tank tree, If you nerf the tanks you loose any desire to use the british teck tree. I say leave the tank alone and just try to flank it or aim for one of its many week spots. The turet doesn't spin 360 so you can get around it. So i think the FV215b 183 is balanced and that it needs to be left alone.

vonluckner #66 Posted Nov 21 2013 - 17:16

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I'd rather fight a 183 in a lower tier tank than fight a 268 or Foch, easily.

DV_Currie_VC #67 Posted Nov 21 2013 - 17:19

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View PostLiBeRaTor260, on Sep 14 2013 - 05:25, said:

The FV215 183 is a very OVER POWERED tank. 1750 damage aka 1 shot on tier 8 tanks 2 on tier 10s, what is the meaning of this madness. Its armor can also deflect even the more "powerful penetration" tanks such as the JgPzde100, a tank with heavy armor yet the FV215 183 can still pen it from almost any angle on its top front armor. This shows that FV215 183 needs a large nerf or other tanks need a large boost. PLEASE BALANCE THE FV215 183 as it causes unfair gameplay to other tanks!
Just try getting 1750 damage on a tier 8 let alone a tier 10 reliably. It's HESH - not APCR....

Deathstar_Commander #68 Posted Nov 23 2013 - 05:16

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View PostDV_Currie_VC, on Nov 21 2013 - 17:19, said:

Just try getting 1750 damage on a tier 8 let alone a tier 10 reliably. It's HESH - not APCR....

Almost all tier 8's have less than 1750 health besides kv5, maybe one or two more. And most of them have around 1500 for heavies. It's not very often i hit a tier 8 and it doesnt die.  Tier ix heavies typcally live but usually dont have more than 200 hp left.   Tier ix is where you have to start aiming too. Everything tier 8 is easy to pen as long as you dont hit spaced armor.

yashamalu #69 Posted Dec 02 2013 - 21:38

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View Postmacrossfighter, on Nov 21 2013 - 06:54, said:

As a 183 player, I hate it when IS-7s show their side to me because that means I'll just hit them for 500 damage in their magical spaced armor.
Well if you're using AP/APCR as other tanks do you may do no damage on spaced armor.

THExxxAssasinator #70 Posted Jan 31 2014 - 12:12

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{lang:macro__view_post}dcsquared, on Sep 14 2013 - 22:40, said:


As a person who has played the 183 I think this post is funny. You have no clue how frustrating this tank is to play. And the reload time is terrifying. If you miss your shot or bounce a shot (which does happen) and the person knows anything about the 183 you're screwed. It takes skill to play this tank. The 183 is very well balanced in my opinion. If you're so scared of the 183 just stay away from it if you see it. But it is a very easy tank to take out. Just wait for it to fire and you have 30 seconds before the next round is loaded to take it out. With low armor that is easy to do.

You eff in the fvb 183 is almost 700 more then your overall average you kill .83 / game overall and 1.32 / game in the fvb I'm gonna go out on a limb and say even mediocre players are deadly in this tank

 

 

you don't have one at all so wtf are you even commenting about?



THExxxAssasinator #71 Posted Jan 31 2014 - 12:15

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{lang:macro__view_post}macrossfighter, on Nov 21 2013 - 06:54, said:


As a IS-7 player i hate 183 :sad: and that thing have decent frontal armor.... it can almost kill an IS-7 in one shot o,0

As a 183 player, I hate it when IS-7s show their side to me because that means I'll just hit them for 500 damage in their magical spaced armor.


hit just above the turret ring on the side of turret  or kill his gun if hes looking at you.



THExxxAssasinator #72 Posted Jan 31 2014 - 12:16

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{lang:macro__view_post}Sanka_Rea, on Nov 19 2013 - 21:38, said:

As a IS-7 player i hate 183 :sad: and that thing have decent frontal armor.... it can almost kill an IS-7 in one shot o,0

 

 

not almost. I kill a lot of is7 with one shot frontally. if I get a shot at lower glacis.



PersianHercules #73 Posted Feb 03 2014 - 01:49

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Make it actually worth using AP... the J e-100 has same AP alpha but much lower reload time...

Edited by PersianHercules, Feb 04 2014 - 06:46.


ijk10 #74 Posted Feb 04 2014 - 07:32

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I have gone back to playing the FV and worked out that the low roll with HESH is simply because it didn't pen.  If you pen then you will get 1600 + damage and probably a fire as well.  If you don't the HE nature of HESH gives you a bonus 600 HP damage that you wouldn't get with another shell type.  I have now loaded all HESH and don't get tempted to fire AP.  The TD isn't OP though as it is hard to hide something that big, but you need to stay back and snipe, no pushing or you die quick.  Like most T10 TDs it needs a lot of support if you want to attack.  Very fun TD though and I think I now prefer it to the Foch 155, having a turret is much better.

mortuus82 #75 Posted Feb 08 2014 - 13:10

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a tank that shoots 2shots/min is not OP, takes alot of skill to be good with this one, and its not the hardest tank killing either....

Hedgeson #76 Posted Feb 12 2014 - 01:19

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I wouldn't know how to balance it, and I've never played the 183, but:

I've had 183s reduce my T110E3's HP by 90% while at the same time destroying at least one module and half the crew, with a single shot.

Arties manage that way less often.

 

I won't say the 183 is OP at winning, but it's a tank that can screw over an enemy player with a single shot, almost everytime.

It's kinda like the M4 + 105mm howitzer before the nerf, but the enemy's repair bill is even higher.

Even if it doesn't make you win, it's just a trollish tank.

Edit: Which behavior is kinda like arty. 1 shot to screw an enemy player.


Edited by Hedgeson, Feb 12 2014 - 01:22.


lTombStonel #77 Posted Feb 15 2014 - 21:27

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Yes the 183 can deal mad damage but I think a lot overlook a couple things. 1 this tank can be extremely hard to be effective with at times. Rng will make a hero or a fool out of you just depends what kind of mood she is in. 2 this tank my opinion is very team depended, if you get a run of bad teams this tank turns into a nightmare. 3rd and last the 183 boom stick is the most unpredictable gun in the game. I have made 500 meter shots with ap that hit that lil weak spot and rolled high and turn around with hesh and completely( for no reason ) miss that 30 meter point blank shot. lol it truly has a mind of its own for me. example after a 100 games in this tank I had a 59% win rate and avg damage was I believe 3.5 witch I know is nothing to brag about. second 200 battles uggh I mean beating my head in the computer desk bad just a awful run 2.3k avg damage and loss after loss after loss. destroyed my win rate in the 183 its down to a shameful 45% in this tank. this tank takes much more skill to use than what people assume it does. its not a waffle for sure not in the same ballpark. I still love this tank even though I hate it lol but it is balanced way more than a waffle or a foch  in my opinion.

lionfranky #78 Posted Feb 22 2014 - 20:49

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{lang:macro__view_post}Hedgeson, on Feb 12 2014 - 01:19, said:

I wouldn't know how to balance it, and I've never played the 183, but:

I've had 183s reduce my T110E3's HP by 90% while at the same time destroying at least one module and half the crew, with a single shot.

Arties manage that way less often.

 

I won't say the 183 is OP at winning, but it's a tank that can screw over an enemy player with a single shot, almost everytime.

It's kinda like the M4 + 105mm howitzer before the nerf, but the enemy's repair bill is even higher.

Even if it doesn't make you win, it's just a trollish tank.

Edit: Which behavior is kinda like arty. 1 shot to screw an enemy player.

lol I was on my E3 facing 183 as well. He managed to penetrate my front, but only did like 400 damage. :P



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{lang:macro__view_post}lionfranky, on Feb 22 2014 - 20:49, said:

lol I was on my E3 facing 183 as well. He managed to penetrate my front, but only did like 400 damage. :P

That means he didnt pen your front.



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{lang:macro__view_post}Deathstar_Commander, on Feb 23 2014 - 02:20, said:

That means he didnt pen your front.

He made hole on my mantlet. It wasn't scratch.






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