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knotwrite #41 Posted Oct 08 2013 - 22:58

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View PostRevanant, on Sep 19 2013 - 23:27, said:

It has literately the exact same gun as the IS-6, except with superior gold rounds...  

You guys need to chill out your just getting focus fired/gold rounded cause its the new tank and everyone wants a piece of it.

This is the truth right here.

I've got a T-34-3, and people are just aching to get a piece of me in the new tank.

In a few weeks folks will have calmed down, but for now you just have to play extra cautious.

Orbital_Nut #42 Posted Oct 11 2013 - 04:34

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I bought the 112 a few days ago, I think its great.

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I would say I agree with the OP.  I have the Chinese 112 and its so sub par compared to another Chinese premium that was just removed from the game ::COUGH:: TYPE59 which was overpowered as fuck.  This tank needs something.  The guns accuracy is shitty. And the IS6 is I feel a better tier 8 premium.  I did play the 112 on the test server and it was much better on the test server.  Ive had one stellar battle in my 112 but it was a battle where I think I was in the good roll queue for RNG.  The .46 accuracy at 100m is garbage, even up close within 100m this gun with a full tight reticle 100% crew and dead eye on my gunner @ 100% this tank is really really bad.  And for the money I put into it. I think they need to either give it a more accurate gun or higher pen.  Again as the OP said 1 v. 1 against an IS6 the 112 will lose almost every time.  Wargaming please fix this shit.  Seriously.  You guys are borderline defrauding your customers.  Show a great product on your test server then when it goes like its a hunk of horse manure.

nrage23 #44 Posted Oct 15 2013 - 18:31

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View PostTechSgt, on Oct 12 2013 - 01:23, said:

I would say I agree with the OP.  I have the Chinese 112 and its so sub par compared to another Chinese premium that was just removed from the game ::COUGH:: TYPE59 which was overpowered as fuck.  This tank needs something.  The guns accuracy is shitty. And the IS6 is I feel a better tier 8 premium.  I did play the 112 on the test server and it was much better on the test server.  Ive had one stellar battle in my 112 but it was a battle where I think I was in the good roll queue for RNG.  The .46 accuracy at 100m is garbage, even up close within 100m this gun with a full tight reticle 100% crew and dead eye on my gunner @ 100% this tank is really really bad.  And for the money I put into it. I think they need to either give it a more accurate gun or higher pen.  Again as the OP said 1 v. 1 against an IS6 the 112 will lose almost every time.  Wargaming please fix this shit.  Seriously.  You guys are borderline defrauding your customers.  Show a great product on your test server then when it goes like its a hunk of horse manure.
The IS-6 has the same accuracy.  Currently its APCR gold ammo works a bit better due to HEAT mechanics with spaced armor and tracks.  The IS-6 will have a hard time penning the 112 frontally if the 112 can keep his LFP hidden or angled.  I have them both and like both.  The 112 is a little slower to accelerate but much faster overall.  I can assure you the Type 59 is not OP anymore.  It is a decent tank with AP rounds and good with APCR.  The only truly OP premium is the SU-122-44.

Edited by nrage23, Oct 15 2013 - 18:35.


Dougthehead #45 Posted Oct 22 2013 - 01:19

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its fucking garbage, a waste of money, u have to use gold rounds a lot and becaus eof it makes very little money, 175 pen is a joke and i won't spend another penny on this game again. total rip off.

Edited by Dougthehead, Oct 22 2013 - 01:22.


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View Postnrage23, on Oct 15 2013 - 18:31, said:

The IS-6 has the same accuracy.  Currently its APCR gold ammo works a bit better due to HEAT mechanics with spaced armor and tracks.  The IS-6 will have a hard time penning the 112 frontally if the 112 can keep his LFP hidden or angled.  I have them both and like both.  The 112 is a little slower to accelerate but much faster overall.  I can assure you the Type 59 is not OP anymore.  It is a decent tank with AP rounds and good with APCR.  The only truly OP premium is the SU-122-44.
completely worng, those two  towers on top of the turret make penning this thing a joke, i have more holes in top of turret than a swiss cheese, and i rock back and forth a lot trying to get a miss. if u come across an angled tank 175 pen .... screw it... like i said in  another post, total rip off.

astravic #47 Posted Oct 29 2013 - 11:48

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I agree in test server was testing and it was better then I bought this tank.
Done 25 battles 60% win rate but mid damage in game is 800 from 12-18 shots. Its impossible to snipe or push a line.
I couldn't pen IS3 in a back.crew 75% with mod( 10% aim speed vent.5%) aiming 5 sec. and aim circle still staying massive.
Ammo rack loosing all time even then shoots 5-6 tier tanks.
This tank for now is totally scrap. And it most expensive to buy it.
1 good I still have t34 with nearly 3k battles and this tank is lower by wot static like 112 but it can go with tier X. 112 max with tier 6.
By my eyes.

Gen_Saris #48 Posted Oct 30 2013 - 02:09

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I don't have this tank, but a clanmate that I run with a lot does... he's constantly being blown up, fuel tanks seem to be extremely vulnerable from almost every angle. From what I've seen this tank is total garbage... probably why I run into so few in battles.

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View PostDougthehead, on Oct 22 2013 - 01:19, said:

its fucking garbage, a waste of money, u have to use gold rounds a lot and becaus eof it makes very little money, 175 pen is a joke and i won't spend another penny on this game again. total rip off.

One can make 175 pen work, I have both the 112 and -6, and I rarely shoot premium ammunition out of either.  It helps having a multiple perk crew, but mostly its about picking targets and aiming.  Overall I think the -6 is a better tank, but it won't train my Chinese heavy crews.

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View PostDougthehead, on Oct 22 2013 - 01:19, said:

its fucking garbage, a waste of money, u have to use gold rounds a lot and becaus eof it makes very little money, 175 pen is a joke and i won't spend another penny on this game again. total rip off.
/Agree, I tried just for kicks, as my reg AP wouldn't pen, the gold round x1, I hit a T34 just under the sideskirt right side and the game says we didn't penettrate their armour. Are you fucking kidding me????  250 pen side to a T34 and DID'NT go in?? Fuck that bullshit RNG or not thats shit.

Edited by Tawnka, Nov 02 2013 - 23:25.


Steel_Bug #51 Posted Nov 08 2013 - 04:58

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Well I played it on the TS.  It was great and couldn't wait to buy one.  It was a little tricky but made up for it in PEN.  So I bought it a soon as it came out.  It is nothing like it was on the TS.  I have a very difficult time penning and it doesn't take a punch.  Has a glass jaw.  If I was offered my money back I would take it and run.  I am very disappointed.

BeingBadNotBeingGood #52 Posted Nov 08 2013 - 05:03

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I dunno OP, the 112 is pretty good with my crap 75% crew and no equip.

mikeownage #53 Posted Nov 08 2013 - 22:14

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View PostSteel_Bug, on Nov 08 2013 - 04:58, said:

Well I played it on the TS.  It was great and couldn't wait to buy one.  It was a little tricky but made up for it in PEN.  So I bought it a soon as it came out.  It is nothing like it was on the TS.  I have a very difficult time penning and it doesn't take a punch.  Has a glass jaw.  If I was offered my money back I would take it and run.  I am very disappointed.
Remember that Russians have different play styles then us Americans also keep in mind people have a different mentality in general when on the Test Server.

Edited by mikeownage, Nov 08 2013 - 22:15.


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View PostTawnka, on Nov 02 2013 - 23:24, said:

/Agree, I tried just for kicks, as my reg AP wouldn't pen, the gold round x1, I hit a T34 just under the sideskirt right side and the game says we didn't penettrate their armour. Are you fucking kidding me????  250 pen side to a T34 and DID'NT go in?? Fuck that bullshit RNG or not thats shit.

Gosh it's almost like spaced armor makes HEAT rounds fail horribly...

_DANARCHY_ #55 Posted Nov 13 2013 - 01:04

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OK so I started out in my first 50 games in the 112 absolutely loving it. It had the gun of the IS-6, which I had a great deal of experience with, extremely good armor and turret armor, decent depression, and excellent pen with HEAT rounds. After the tank had been around for even a few weeks people understood that the enormous lower glacis was only 75mm of armor and the sides were made of paper. I know armor angling and I understand game mechanics but I could not figure out how to effectively side scrape with that tank no matter what angle I tried without exposing my lower plate. Honestly I really really tried to love the 112, but the IS-6 is just so obviously superior. Despite my feelings I still had phenomenal stats in the 112 with 60% win rate out of about 100 games. The IS-6 is just better so don't waste your money.
*Another quick thing the 112 bursts into flames like it was the crew's job to set a fire even with preventative maintenance.

Edited by Xenith968, Nov 13 2013 - 01:06.


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View PostDymitri, on Sep 19 2013 - 18:15, said:

SO.. I heard that the 112 was a great tank in the test server so of course being the eager beaver i am, grabbed one right when 8.8 was released. To my current dismay this tank is so far below acceptable performance that i want my money back. The gun has the accuracy of a sawed off shotgun trying to hit a penny and the aiming time of who the hell knows what. The frontal armor slope maybe bounces a few shots. Nearly every battle so far (if i live long enough) either my gun or my gas tanks get hit. Youtubers like "Quickybaby" were saying this is better than the is-6 but after getting destroyed by an is-6 in a 1v1 fight i'd like to say that's a load of horse manure. Unless i'm using this tank wrong, i'd give it maybe a 3/10 only cause it's cheap to repair.
i agree

Psykmoe #57 Posted Nov 17 2013 - 13:23

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It's a pretty decent tank but it has higher accuracy loss on track or turret movement than the IS-6 and a slower rate of fire. I like the turret a lot better though, and the front armor is pretty nice except against people going for the lower front.

The real problem I have is that the track traverse is kinda crap for a mobile heavy. Most other fast heavies either have better traverse, lower ground resistance or more raw power, or a combination of three. A minor annoyance most of the time, but the 110 reacts a lot better to being circled.

darkmung #58 Posted Nov 22 2013 - 23:43

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This tank is great. If you don't think so then you just don't know how to use it yet. Learn to play with angles on the armor. I make a good amount of credits with it. Don't have the prob with my armor being pinned all the time. All around good tank.

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Got the 112 lastnite, I had around 10 losses stright, then this morning I cant loose in it,  in 4 games back to back I had 4,5,5,3 kills where i did most of the damage. I was bouncing shots from everything it seemed.    I went head to head solo with a t32 and only lost 400hp this tank is Bipoler as heck lol.

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View Post3BAC, on Sep 20 2013 - 18:23, said:

I'd venture to say this is the issue right here.  You have more games in this tank than in any other Chinese tank.  The Chinese tanks have different quirks than the other countries, and can be very frustrating to play.  If you don't know how to play Chinese tanks, and you don't, then you don't know how to play that tank right.
I'll assume that if you paid for the tank, you paid for 100% crew training, so the crew is at least decent.  If my assumption is wrong, then without doubt you are  playing it wrong.


Personal skill/ability aside, the difference between you two is the level of crew training.  With several hundred Chinese heavy tank battles behind you, your crew has a good collection of skills/perks.  The OP has none.

Given your complete avoidance of Chinese tanks to this point, I do have to ask.  Given premium tanks serve as credit earners and crew trainers, and premiums of the same tier earn pretty much the same, what convinced you the 112 was the right way to go for you?

Couldn't have said it better 3BAC. Also OP, aside from your inexperience with the chinese tanks, & the most likely inexperienced crew, you gotta learn to adapt. If you want to be successful regardless of the tank you play, you gotta adapt your playstyle to suit the tank. Or you will just end up very frustrated. Which you are clearly getting very frustrated. Seeing how you have 10 battles in the tank, & have all but skipped Chinese tanks, you are very unfamiliar with how Chinese tanks play best.





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