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Life_In_Black #161 Posted Oct 12 2013 - 20:45

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Ah, ok. Are there any other known photographs of some of the more odd Yugoslavian vehicles?

YugoManiac #162 Posted Oct 12 2013 - 21:31

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a bunch of Vozilo-A photos (one prototype displayed on the Kalemegdan fortress) and SO-75 album

apart from those two there are many,many interesting modifications from Yugoslav wars (for example Krajina Express or SO-76 M-18 mod.) but they are definitely out of WOT time frame

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Ah, ok. Are there any other known photographs of some of the more odd Yugoslavian vehicles?


YugoManiac #163 Posted Oct 13 2013 - 02:10

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SO-76 M-18 Mod in game characteristics
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thanks to 8.9 Common Test I was able to make this vehicle in the game. WZ-120 hull + Type 64 turret and gun

YugoManiac #164 Posted Oct 13 2013 - 02:21

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thanks to 8.9 Common Test I was able to make this vehicle in the game. WZ-120 hull + Type 64 turret and gun
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Life_In_Black #165 Posted Oct 13 2013 - 02:27

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Awesome work!

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Yugo.
On your Jugoslavian tech tree you obviously have the Italian L.6/40 which I know was captured in decent numbers over there and reused.
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There is one (not very good) image of a train load of tanks being sent to Jugoslavia in 1944? including a returretted M15/42 with the turret of the Czech Pz 38(t):
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mockup image courtesy of Raptor-Fulcrum:
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Do you have any other images or information on this vehicle such as whether the mod was of German/Italian/Allied origin or done in Jugoslavia? or whether they modified any of the other rather flimsy Italian vehicles over there, this would be with a possible view to introduction as Jugo-premiums.
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I kind of imagine some of the older 1943 etc. vehicles ending up as ammunition carriers, artillery tractors or as dug-in defensive positions.

sp15 #167 Posted Oct 14 2013 - 15:37

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you know if that modification is Jugoslavian it could possibly fill the spot for tier 4 light tank in the Jugoslav tech tree
Also YugoManiac really nice work

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Life_In_Black #168 Posted Oct 14 2013 - 17:29

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YugoManiac #169 Posted Oct 14 2013 - 21:54

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Vollketten unfortunately I know nothing about that hybrid :sad:


following your Italian Tanks thread :great:


View Postsp15, on Oct 14 2013 - 15:37, said:

you know if that modification is Jugoslavian it could possibly fill the spot for tier 4 light tank in the Jugoslav tech tree
Also YugoManiac really nice work

I think Yugo branch should begin at tier 6. What do you guys think?

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View PostYugoManiac, on Oct 14 2013 - 21:54, said:

Vollketten unfortunately I know nothing about that hybrid
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following your Italian Tanks thread
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I think Yugo branch should begin at tier 6. What do you guys think?
That's great to hear thank you. It's a pity that that odd little vehicle seems to have been lost to history.
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Is there much info out there about Jugoslavian ballistics testing relating to tanks? - I can recall a single copy posted one time on overlord blog but that's all I know of.
I would be particularly interested if the JNA or such made any modifications to other countries tank guns and ammunition.

YugoManiac #171 Posted Oct 15 2013 - 03:42

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View PostVollketten, on Oct 14 2013 - 22:49, said:

Is there much info out there about Jugoslavian ballistics testing relating to tanks? - I can recall a single copy posted one time on overlord blog but that's all I know of.

those tests are relatively well-known and often referred to because they used Russian and American guns for testing

old topic on tank net
http://www.tank-net....showtopic=18562

View PostVollketten, on Oct 14 2013 - 22:49, said:

I would be particularly interested if the JNA or such made any modifications to other countries tank guns and ammunition.


JNA had a fetish for replacing petrol with diesel engines, Yugoslavia also modify foreign guns and ammunition, but I do not know enough on the subject

sp15 #172 Posted Oct 16 2013 - 17:54

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i made a picture of how the VEAK SPG could look
here armed with a 15.5cm haubits F (Obusier Mle.50)
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Of cource we dont actually know what armament it would have carried, but it is a safe assumption that it would have used a 155mm gun
since such a vehicle had been requested since the 1950s (if i remember correctly), and the VEAK would not have been able to carry the later 155mm m/60

could be a interesting tier 8 SPG dont you think?

YugoManiac #173 Posted Oct 21 2013 - 09:17

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Czechoslovakian and Yugoslavian branches are already connected by T-32/Š-I-d and Š-I-j (projects designed for Yugoslavia by Škoda)

M18A2 and SO-76 M-18 Mod are both bending the rules a bit (both are from the nineties)

T-55 L7 105mm is an alternative tier 10


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I need Hungarian and Polish tech trees (good ones, no science fiction tanks)


for those wondering what M18A2 is (Hellcat modernization by TRZ Hadžići)
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sp15 #174 Posted Oct 21 2013 - 11:20

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Great job Yugomaniac!

anyhow this is my sugesstion for a hungarian tree.

Main line: Straussler V-3 > Straussler V-4 > 43M Toldi III > 40M Turán I/II > 43M Turán III > Tas Prototype > M44 Tas
TD line: 40M Nimród > Toldi TD > Turan 105mm MAVAG > 43M Zrinyi II > 40M Zrinyi I > 44M Tas Rohamlöveg
Premium: Nimród 80mm, Turan 105mm SPG

sp15 #175 Posted Oct 21 2013 - 11:32

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i must say though that polish tanks are my weakspot, i know there are plenty of them and that they could atleast make a heavy line up to tier 7 but i just have a horrible time keeping track on them all

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sp15 #176 Posted Oct 21 2013 - 17:28

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i feel like torching my computer right now
i just lost 5 hours of work on writing about the L-60 tank

Life_In_Black #177 Posted Oct 21 2013 - 17:37

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View Postsp15, on Oct 21 2013 - 17:28, said:

i feel like torching my computer right now
i just lost 5 hours of work on writing about the L-60 tank

Sorry to hear that.

sp15 #178 Posted Oct 21 2013 - 21:07

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View PostLife_In_Black, on Oct 21 2013 - 17:37, said:

Sorry to hear that.
well i re wrote everything important and posted it here
http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1

Life_In_Black #179 Posted Oct 21 2013 - 21:08

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View Postsp15, on Oct 21 2013 - 21:07, said:

well i re wrote everything important and posted it here
http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1

I saw. Awesome work!

YugoManiac #180 Posted Oct 22 2013 - 00:00

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without M18A2 and SO-76 M-18 Mod projects from the nineties.... These are a little more realistic expectation :coin:





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