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sp15 #701 Posted Mar 23 2014 - 21:06

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View PostEyeless_Camper, on Mar 23 2014 - 19:41, said:

I really like it, i cant wait to try out all the stuff around Strv M/42 hull :tongue:

Hmm, i was talking with a friend a bit and since WoT class most stuff after how the nation class them, wouldnt Strv M/42 be a heavy tank?

Since we did call them heavy tanks and put them in heavy tank companies?


It has also been reffered to as a "medeltung stridsvagn" so it can go either way, but its definately not heavy tank material unless you want to put it at tier 3-4.

and besided it was the swedish response to the panzer 4 and the sherman so i think it works fine as a tier 5 medium.



renhanxue #702 Posted Mar 24 2014 - 18:34

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1963 documents are syncing to the google drive now. Not too much interesting, they're too busy with the S-tank to care about anything else. Still, there's a brief mention of a "new assault gun" that will be needed in future, so maybe 1964 will have some early stuff about the ikv 91.

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Link to google drive thing? :tongue:

renhanxue #704 Posted Mar 24 2014 - 19:13

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It's not public. If you can read Swedish and want access, PM me your email address and I can share it with you. A word of warning, though: it currently contains over 6600 photographed document pages, totaling about 11 GB, and far from everything is relevant for World of Tanks.

renhanxue #705 Posted Mar 26 2014 - 20:58

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Got stuff today but will upload tomorrow because I won't be home until super late tonight.

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View Postrenhanxue, on Mar 26 2014 - 19:58, said:

Got stuff today but will upload tomorrow because I won't be home until super late tonight.


nice... could you give us a teaser? :)

 



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View Postsp15, on Mar 26 2014 - 13:35, said:

nice... could you give us a teaser? :)

I second this. :hiding:



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View Postsp15, on Mar 26 2014 - 21:35, said:


nice... could you give us a teaser? :)

 


I'm posting from my phone and it's a pain to upload things, don't think I have anything spectacular enough



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View Postrenhanxue, on Mar 26 2014 - 20:54, said:


I'm posting from my phone and it's a pain to upload things, don't think I have anything spectacular enough


thats fine. ill see what you found tomorow.



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Google Drive is syncing now.

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View Postrenhanxue, on Mar 27 2014 - 09:51, said:

Google Drive is syncing now.

Is any of it going to go on Tanks.Mod16?



renhanxue #712 Posted Mar 27 2014 - 19:40

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Maybe, if I ever get enough time...

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View Postrenhanxue, on Mar 27 2014 - 11:40, said:

Maybe, if I ever get enough time...

It's nothing to worry about, everyone has important things to do in real life.



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ok so ive started to go trough the documents, and this is what i have so far (all the info in this post is from documents from 1964-65)

 

In 1964 planning starts for a new Ikv to replace the Ikv 102-103 and Strv 74.
The projected vehicle is to be in the 10-20 tonne range and have enough firepower to function for infantery support and for fighting modern tanks.
The vehicle is to have good mobility, acceleration and top speed. Two alternatives are being concidered one based of the experiences of the Strv s and Strv 74 or a cheap primitive vehicle without much armour.
The project is to be combined with the development of a new SPG and recovery vehicle. another document from 1965 mentions the armament as a 9cm gun.
The vehicle is to have frontal protection against 20mm guns. it is to have a fire rate of minimum 8 rpm and have -10 depression with at least +12 elevation.
It is supposed to reach a top speed of 60kph. ground pressure is not to exceed that of the Ikv 102


A 10,5cm and 15cm SPG is being concidered  with a weight of 15 and 25 tonnes respectivly. The vehicle is to be as mobile as the current tanks in the army
Later on a document mentions proposals for either purchasing the AMX 13 155mm SPG or the XM 104.
But more importantly there are also proposals for a "French 15,5cm howitzer on S tank chassis" and "a swedish 10,5cm gun on a Pbv 302 chassis"


Data: Pbv 10,5cm SPG, (Strv S 15,5cm SPG)


Max range: 14-16km
Traverse within 2 sec: 6dg
Traverse within 10 sec: 30dg (15dg)
Traverse within 60 sec: 360dg
Elevation: 45dg
Depression: -5dg
Fire rate: 25rpm (12rpm)
Sustained fire (10) min: 12rpm (6rpm)
Weight: 15t (25t)


Ammunition
HE: existing ammo
Smoke: existing ammo (new ammo)
HEAT: existing ammo (none)
Ammo load: 100 rounds (50 rounds)


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so i think this thing actually has some good justification now. it would make sense to have the SPG and the VEAK share the same chassis (and that is actually discussed in earlier documents from around 1960-62) and the french 155mm gun that would have been used is the Obusier Mle.50 which was purchased and even produced under license as 15.5cm haubits F. 

 



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My personal impression of the swedish medium line...

the imige was distorted, ill try to fix it

http://imgur.com/yxEcrrp


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sp15 #717 Posted Mar 29 2014 - 18:31

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so my current tech tree idea. https://i.imgur.com/s8VGSor.jpg

Im really happy with this result, and i didnt even have to include any foreign tanks which means a tech tree full of original tanks that should provide a unique experience.

 

Edit: also here is a closeup of my interpretation of the Landsverk 30 tonne td which was to be based on the Landsverk Leo medium tank, and would have a 10,5cm gun.

cant post the picture directly for some reason...  https://i.imgur.com/fvcLaj8.jpg


Edited by sp15, Mar 29 2014 - 18:38.


sp15 #718 Posted Mar 31 2014 - 14:50

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posting this for later.
http://tanks.mod16.o...eapons-1951-21/

its a proposal for lengthening the 75mm Lvkv m/36 from L/60 to L/70 and using it as a anti tank gun. it should come in handy as a tier 7 top gun for the Strv Leo (besides its 105mm gun) and possibly as a option for some of the TD´s aswell



sp15 #719 Posted Apr 02 2014 - 18:28

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so anything new today ren?

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Yep! Not a ton of of interesting stuff, but there should be some tidbits in there. Google drive is syncing now.





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