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snafu37 #61 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 20:00

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View PostKayos, on Mar 01 2011 - 19:57, said:

Does this effect the T32's gun as well?
Patch notes say the T29, but they both use the T5E1, so it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

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I know this is still in beta testing mode but all these nerf's are really Pi$$$ing me off. When I first encountered a Russian T-44 with my KT and it owned me (got behind me, tracked, then de-gunned me and then killed me, I said I want one. The they nerfed it. They then released the T-54 and I thought "yeah baby ... I got to get me one of those". So after slogging through a whole bunch of battles I got one. Then fighting through many more battles to get 100000 exp to max out my T-54 I was happy. Expensive tank to operate but I like it alot. Now the T-54 just  basically a slightly improved T-44 which cost way more to operate.

The T29 is (was) an awesome tank.I suffered through the T1 heavy and M6 just to get this tank and now it has been nerfed. I guess if I keep on playing after the wipe I will just go down the Russian side and operate just two tanks, IS-7 and T-54. I know this because of all the battles that I have been in and this forum.

All the new guys (if any) will read the forums and most will also go down the Russina side. Eventully most of the battles will be Russian against Russian. Maybe this is what the developers want.

Too bad ... I reallky like most aspets of this game. The inability to "equally" play all nations really frustrates me. We will see whether I keep playing after the wipe.

piercas2000 #63 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 20:13

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View PostFlatCat, on Mar 01 2011 - 19:08, said:

:lol:

I was looking to buy a T-29 guess not now. I think I will just stay low tier free upkeep tanks.

If the DEVs are really going to nerf every tank that's not soviet this game will fail.
I just want the tanks to be what they were in real life.
The Tiger was put in the wrong tier a 1942 tank facing tanks from 1948.
The T-54 is really a tier 10 med. The t-29s gun getting nerfed. on and on.

If they don't add balance they will lose a good deal of the money making from the us and euro servers. I like the soviet tanks but I don't
want all soviet tanks.

yah me to , i would love top see them tanks as they would behave in real, but then again probobly we will end up playng all with the same tank lol

Mac_Chernovsky #64 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 20:28

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View PostMorrigan, on Mar 01 2011 - 15:56, said:

Yeah the buffs to US and German tanks are typically things like +10 hit points, and increased accuracy by 0.01. WHEE.

-.- Hopefully there is more to it then that if there ever is an buff...

MattiasKerensky #65 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 21:14

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View PostRage, on Mar 01 2011 - 20:28, said:

They nerfed it, for NO. FREAKING. REASON.

If they are going to continue with this, I am fine - under one condition:


Allow the Nazi signs/names. Because you, developers, show the same nationalistic behaviour and it shouldn't insult you much if someone has the same interest (only from different country?). Sure you don't conquer neighbour countries and kill Jewish people, but you sure as hell do promote your country as something special.

^---goes a bit too far methinks. That being said, T-29, and indeed all the American heavies, were in need of a BUFF, not a NERF. And after all the trouble I went through to be positive in my After 3000+ battles impressions thread, this makes me sad on the insides. Look, we don't mind if you guys have badass Russian armor in the game, that's cool. But we'd like our American or German or French or whatever armor to be EQUALLY badass, cause that's what makes the battles fun, when it's not about what tank you have in a given tier, it's about how skillful you are at playing your tank.

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View Postpiercas2000, on Mar 01 2011 - 16:08, said:

lol i see only t-29 drivers crying here,
T-29 is overpowered in my opinion, When i shoot with my KV-3 i just hear ding, ding, ricoshet, we just scrached him, thats a lough
but with same gun i can do damage to is-3 and is-4 with no problem from first shott, not talking about tigers i thought tigers suposetobe be a bit stronger

my two pence :D

LOL at the KV-3 that complains about dings.... :Smile_harp:

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View PostSpectreHD, on Mar 01 2011 - 04:15, said:

And I just wonder what is the reason for increasing the ROF of the 57mm ZIS-4 for the T-34.

Yea they also nerfed the hell out of my favorite lower tier american gun the British 6 pounder and than buff the 57mm ZIS-4 the equivalent of the 6 pounder hmmmm Russian bias never....

TigerHawk #68 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 21:57

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View PostKayos, on Mar 01 2011 - 19:57, said:

Does this effect the T32's gun as well?

Confirmed that it does not affect the T32. RoF is exactly the same, but T29s dropped from 6 to 5. Really disappointing....why should the 105 fire almost as slowly as the 122 on the IS? Not to mention how do they justify the T32 having higher RoF than the T29 when the T29's turret is massive and has a lot more room to work in for the loaders when the T32's is tiny.

Sigh. There goes the only good tank in the US tree whatsoever. Time to just stop playing I think until they do that huge tech-tree overhaul they've been talking about.

JamesDean #69 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 22:24

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Confirmed that it does not affect the T32. RoF is exactly the same, but T29s dropped from 6 to 5. Really disappointing....why should the 105 fire almost as slowly as the 122 on the IS? Not to mention how do they justify the T32 having higher RoF than the T29 when the T29's turret is massive and has a lot more room to work in for the loaders when the T32's is tiny.

Sigh. There goes the only good tank in the US tree whatsoever. Time to just stop playing I think until they do that huge tech-tree overhaul they've been talking about.

Technically now the T29's 105 is slower than the IS's 122 mm. at 5.56 RPM...

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View PostTigerHawk, on Mar 01 2011 - 21:57, said:

Confirmed that it does not affect the T32. RoF is exactly the same, but T29s dropped from 6 to 5. Really disappointing....why should the 105 fire almost as slowly as the 122 on the IS? Not to mention how do they justify the T32 having higher RoF than the T29 when the T29's turret is massive and has a lot more room to work in for the loaders when the T32's is tiny.

Sigh. There goes the only good tank in the US tree whatsoever. Time to just stop playing I think until they do that huge tech-tree overhaul they've been talking about.
YEP me to.
With them nerfing the 105mm and the pre-release M6 T8 with the same 105mm I no longer see a need to buy it. I dont think I will be spending any money on this game now.

darkterren #71 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 22:25

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At this rate it seems the new American tech  won't come cuz it might make the Americans good

Livewyr7 #72 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 22:27

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As I said earlier, if they keep this kind of (very obvious) bias going..  I'm not playing retail. (Which is a shame because when I picked up this game in november.. I pretty much quit everything else, WoW, Mechwarrior, CoD, etc.. because it was the perfect game for me.)

I don't think they realize yet that they can't pull it off with the obvious Russian tank bias outside of..  Russia. (there was even a russian player that made an account on this side of the server split to wish us well in hopes that developers would listen.)

Why did we do a beta?

Arbuckle33 #73 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 22:27

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I dunno guys, I once killed a KV in my M7 with the help of my friend who was also in an M7.

They really ought to make the M7 slower so the KV-2 turret can keep up.

Actually, now that I think about it, they should probably make the 6-pounder fire slower too. Same with the M1A2 that the E8 gets. They're both just really, really overpowered.

In fact, just make every american tank fire about as fast as the obj212. That would really balance them out.

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View Postpiercas2000, on Mar 01 2011 - 16:08, said:

lol i see only t-29 drivers crying here,
T-29 is overpowered in my opinion, When i shoot with my KV-3 i just hear ding, ding, ricoshet, we just scrached him, thats a lough
but with same gun i can do damage to is-3 and is-4 with no problem from first shott, not talking about tigers i thought tigers suposetobe be a bit stronger

my two pence :D
All you have to do is shoot the body of any US heavy tank and score a good hit but no you want to auto aim at the turret, in my KV-3 I killed 2 T29 in the same game by shooting them in the body with only 1 shot bouncing.

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View PostArbuckle33, on Mar 01 2011 - 22:27, said:

I dunno guys, I once killed a KV in my M7 with the help of my friend who was also in an M7.

They really ought to make the M7 slower so the KV-2 turret can keep up.

Actually, now that I think about it, they should probably make the 6-pounder fire slower too. Same with the M1A2 that the E8 gets. They're both just really, really overpowered.

In fact, just make every american tank fire about as fast as the obj212. That would really balance them out.

And don't forget that OP 90 mm the M6 gets, that definitely needs to go.

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If they do nations on nations battles now the Russian tanks will win.

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View PostKozak115, on Mar 01 2011 - 22:31, said:

And don't forget that OP 90 mm the M6 gets, that definitely needs to go.

Damn, how could I forget that?

Let's just make sure that every american tank gets a gun that is a tier lower than the tank itself.

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View PostArbuckle33, on Mar 01 2011 - 22:39, said:

Damn, how could I forget that?

Let's just make sure that every american tank gets a gun that is a tier lower than the tank itself.
I thought that was already the case.

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Remember guys the devs aren't being biased Russians tanks have always been hands down better than any other tank on the battlefield and every other nations tanks have been piles of crap that never deserved to be made the fact that the devs allowed tanks such as the t29 to actually go toe to toe with a is2 and kv3 is outragous when everybody knows a is2 and kv3 could kill a king tiger without any problem  :D
In all honesty though the devs have basically killed the game with the russian bias and are tryign to deny it beating to death tanks that need to be buffed to actually stand a chance against other tanks in its tier is just wanting peopel to leave your game but who knows maybe the devs will quit the legion of doom and try to make american and german tanks actually be decent instead of bugged or nerfed pieces of crap  :Smile-izmena:

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View Postsargefan19, on Mar 02 2011 - 00:05, said:

In all honesty though the devs have basically killed the game with the russian bias and are tryign to deny it beating to death tanks that need to be buffed to actually stand a chance against other tanks in its tier is just wanting peopel to leave your game but who knows maybe the devs will quit the legion of doom and try to make american and german tanks actually be decent instead of bugged or nerfed pieces of crap

What? Don't be crazy dude, that's how Soviet tanks were back then. Everyone knows that Soviet tanks were superior, but harder to build, and German tanks were simple but not that great.




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