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gergar12 #81 Posted Mar 02 2011 - 03:08

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View PostSturmButcher, on Mar 01 2011 - 00:44, said:

guys stop crying, as far as I see the t-29 is a tank really hard to kill, when I shoot with my jagdpanther (same tear) only hear ricochets and dings, it is no fair, it supossed the jagdpanther had a 88 with real high velocity, that tank could destroy everything becouse could penetrate 237 mm, so where is the balance?
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Engine_of_War #82 Posted Mar 02 2011 - 03:47

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View PostArbuckle33, on Mar 02 2011 - 02:21, said:

What? Don't be crazy dude, that's how Soviet tanks were back then. Everyone knows that Soviet tanks were superior, but harder to build, and German tanks were simple but not that great.


Thats infact backwards...... The Germans had the super complex killing machines while the Soivets had the mass produced less-then-decent tracked metal coffins.   :P

usual kill ratio was about 1 tiger gets rid of like say 10+ T-34s. the Panzer4 was on par with teh T-34 but there were lke 5 34's per 1 panzer 4.
Otherwise the Germans made a good business of turret removal from the sovit machines, only thing that had the soviets win was the unending numbers they had.

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View PostEngine_of_War, on Mar 02 2011 - 03:47, said:

Thats infact backwards...... The Germans had the super complex killing machines while the Soivets had the mass produced less-then-decent tracked metal coffins.   :P

usual kill ratio was about 1 tiger gets rid of like say 10+ T-34s. the Panzer4 was on par with teh T-34 but there were lke 5 34's per 1 panzer 4.
Otherwise the Germans made a good business of turret removal from the sovit machines, only thing that had the soviets win was the unending numbers they had.

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View PostEngine_of_War, on Mar 02 2011 - 03:47, said:

Thats infact backwards...... The Germans had the super complex killing machines while the Soivets had the mass produced less-then-decent tracked metal coffins.   :P

usual kill ratio was about 1 tiger gets rid of like say 10+ T-34s. the Panzer4 was on par with teh T-34 but there were lke 5 34's per 1 panzer 4.
Otherwise the Germans made a good business of turret removal from the sovit machines, only thing that had the soviets win was the unending numbers they had.

Good job not getting the joke.

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First battle with the gimped T-29, and i thought the IS had a slow gun loading. This totally puts the T-29 squarely into a defensive position, since its low rate of fire limits it from being a front-line tank able to tangle with the IS. The IS is now faster, more agile, has better hull armor, and has a higher end-gun ROF than the T-29, who now only has the turret front to brag about.

In short,

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View PostClockworkred, on Mar 02 2011 - 04:16, said:

First battle with the gimped T-29, and i thought the IS had a slow gun loading. This totally puts the T-29 squarely into a defensive position, since its low rate of fire limits it from being a front-line tank able to tangle with the IS. The IS is now faster, more agile, has better hull armor, and has a higher end-gun ROF than the T-29, who now only has the turret front to brag about.

In short,

http://files.myfrogb...0cwwi/f7u12.gif

When I first saw the nerf, I thought, they couldn't possibly put it below the RoF of the IS.

Now the T29 gathers dust in my garage.

Belrick #87 Posted Mar 02 2011 - 06:27

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Really sick of the way the devs add bias to Russian tanks.
I dont give a shiite what mods and devs say counter to that. There is just way to much factual evidence that shows their bias creeping into tank stats.

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View PostTigerHawk, on Mar 01 2011 - 21:57, said:

Confirmed that it does not affect the T32. RoF is exactly the same, but T29s dropped from 6 to 5. Really disappointing....why should the 105 fire SLOWER as the 122 on the IS? Not to mention how do they justify the T32 having higher RoF than the T29 when the T29's turret is massive and has a lot more room to work in for the loaders when the T32's is tiny.

Sigh. There goes the only good tank in the US tree whatsoever. Time to just stop playing I think until they do that huge tech-tree overhaul they've been talking about.

Top 122mm on the IS has a RoF of 5.56, 105mm on the T29 used to have RoF of 6, but now they lowered it to 5.

IS has 1 loader, T29 has two.

122mm shells are larger and heavier than 105mm shells...

Where's the logic in this?

Where's the RoF nerf for the 122mm on the IS? it's illogical that it is higher than the T29s 105mm RoF. Impossible really.

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View PostUltramarine212, on Mar 02 2011 - 06:33, said:

Top 122mm on the IS has a RoF of 5.56, 105mm on the T29 used to have RoF of 6, but now they lowered it to 5.

IS has 1 loader, T29 has two.

122mm shells are larger and heavier than 105mm shells...

Where's the logic in this?

Where's the RoF nerf for the 122mm on the IS? it's illogical that it is higher than the T29s 105mm RoF. Impossible really.

Glorious mother russia loader works harder and faster than the capitalist-opressed loaders of the T29, because glorious mother russian loader works for the future of communism and therefore has no problem loading the glorious mother russia shells of the JS-2 faster than the pigs of the west.

SpectreHD #90 Posted Mar 02 2011 - 10:27

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Wow...thank God I sold my T29 and T34 and rebought back my JagdTiger which is less shittier. I sure hope to God the devs don't decide to retail the game at the state of the US.

unlawfulsoup #91 Posted Mar 02 2011 - 10:42

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They really need to give the T-29 a break here. First the 'armor glitch', inaccuracy, and now this. God forbid the US get one heavy that stands out for its tier.

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View Postunlawfulsoup, on Mar 02 2011 - 10:42, said:

They really need to give the T-29 a break here. First the 'armor glitch', inaccuracy, and now this. God forbid the US get one heavy any other faction than soviet/russian get a tank that stands out for its tier.

fixed.

ps: the pattern is getting obvious, any time their flawed statistics show any tank that is not soviet performing even marginally better (ferdinand for example), it gets "fixed" asap. when there are real issues with game mechanics and other factions that need attention, they ignore or give all sorts of excuses.

they seem to have stopped being subtle with the bias, it's blatant now.

Massdit #93 Posted Mar 02 2011 - 11:38

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The T-54 is overpowered............the solution is to nerf the T-29.

:Smile_great:   Good job Devs!! We got owned!

OscarZulu #94 Posted Mar 02 2011 - 12:32

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Amazing this hasn't been locked down yet.  I read somewhere recently on the T-54 that a good crew could fire 1-2 shots a minute.  Not so in this game ... what is it, like 5-6?

Vladimir Putin must be on the WoT board.

They are seriously ruining a game with so much potential. This is the game I've been waiting for.

Sad.

Ultramarine212 #95 Posted Mar 02 2011 - 13:41

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View PostOscarZulu, on Mar 02 2011 - 12:32, said:

Amazing this hasn't been locked down yet.  I read somewhere recently on the T-54 that a good crew could fire 1-2 shots a minute.  Not so in this game ... what is it, like 5-6?

Vladimir Putin must be on the WoT board.

They are seriously ruining a game with so much potential. This is the game I've been waiting for.

Sad.

Dont worry, a year or so from now we'll have a Western Dev make a WoT like game, only it will be

Balanced (Lack of blatant biased bs)
Actual MMO (Not 15vs15 matchmaking, how is this an MMO?)
Stable servers
Actually listen to beta testers and customers
Home made engine, not this bigworld crap.

Then again, there's RO2 coming out this year, RO1 has some of the best and most realistic tank battles out there, 32vs32 on maps over 10km in size, RO2 is gonna be awesome.

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Yop, +1 for RO 2

Kleiner_Vance #97 Posted Mar 02 2011 - 15:43

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The T29 got nerfed?

Then why is my T29 still kicking ass and taking names?

a1fox3 #98 Posted Mar 02 2011 - 16:13

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View PostKleiner_Vance, on Mar 02 2011 - 15:43, said:

The T29 got nerfed?

Then why is my T29 still kicking ass and taking names?
Because there are alot of us US T29 players able to use this tank as it was meant to be used, and since we are useing it and getting great games out of it they nerfed it.
If the players base keep on using auto aim and keep on hitting my front turret then my US T29 stats are going to keep going up.

:Smile-izmena: So all T29 players keep on grinding the T29 and keep getting those Sinper, Top Gun and Steel Wall awards. :Smile-izmena:
True to form the DEV will nerf the T29 again soon as the stats keep on going up so there preacious russian tanks will win over all other tanks at the same lvl.

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View PostRock_Spider, on Mar 01 2011 - 12:13, said:

Ok people... I have the perfect plan. It has been said countless times by overlord that nerfs/buffs are based on "stats". Whenever we ask why maus gets no buff they say... "it has the highest win ratio and bla bla bla".

So.... Everyone who owns a T29 go home and play 20 games a day and FAIL catastrophically. Like epic failz. In no time the stats will reflect that the t29 needs a major buff  :Smile_great:
The T29 is a tank a good player can use and get good games with, so dont go and fail I say go and play nothing but the T29 and keep on getting Sniper, Top Gun and Steel Wall, get those stats up so high that the DEV will rethink on what they are doing to the US tech tree.

If they keep on buffing the russian tanks and keep on nerfing the German and US tanks then they will lose alot of EU and NA player base.

AT this time I will keep on playing my T29 and wait and see what they do next. With the nerf they just handed out I will no longer buy the pre-release bundle.

:Smile-izmena: SO I say keep on with the T29 fight and keep on rocking there world :Smile-izmena:

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View PostKleiner_Vance, on Mar 02 2011 - 15:43, said:

The T29 got nerfed?

Then why is my T29 still kicking ass and taking names?

People have to stand up against changes that make no sense or they will continue to happen. There was no reason to nerf the t29 as it and the IS were balanced; the tiger should have been given some loving.




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