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Mac_Chernovsky #1 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 21:03

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Also known as the Davy Crokett, the M65 Nuclear rifle was supposed to be used by foot soldiers or was to be placed on top of a Jeep for mobile use.

The one flaw? The max range is 3 miles, which is shorter then the blast range the nuclear round would make, so those firing the device and anyone with-in that area will be irradiated.

Gorkzillah #2 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 22:14

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You sick SICK people... the military men are really nuts man...

Livewyr7 #3 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 22:16

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Yes we are crazy sons of bishes. Don't forget it.

Deo #4 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 22:30

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LOL. I couldn't stop laughing. Reminds me of those shoulder fired nukes from Starship Troopers. Kill the Bugs!

Mac_Chernovsky #5 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 23:16

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View PostDeo, on Mar 01 2011 - 22:30, said:

LOL. I couldn't stop laughing. Reminds me of those shoulder fired nukes from Starship Troopers. Kill the Bugs!

Ha, to tell you the truth the only reason why I know of this weapon was because of the Fatman nuke launcher from the Fallout series.

thejoker91 #6 Posted Mar 01 2011 - 23:55

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the cold war, also known as the time where the military reasoning was "ze nukes are awesome, lets put them everywhere we can!"

Nuclear unguided air to air missile? check.
Nuclear guided air to air missile? check.
Nuclear artillery shells? check and double check.
Nuclear demo charges? check.
Nuclear recoiless rifle? check.
Suitcase nukes? only movies for now :P

sadow333 #7 Posted Mar 05 2011 - 03:28

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View Postthejoker91, on Mar 01 2011 - 23:55, said:

the cold war, also known as the time where the military reasoning was "ze nukes are awesome, lets put them everywhere we can!"

Nuclear unguided air to air missile? check.
Nuclear guided air to air missile? check.
Nuclear artillery shells? check and double check.
Nuclear demo charges? check.
Nuclear recoiless rifle? check.
Suitcase nukes? only movies for now :P
don't forget about nuclear submarines!

SweetTransvestite #8 Posted Mar 05 2011 - 03:47

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View PostGorkzillah, on Mar 01 2011 - 22:14, said:

You sick SICK people... the military men are really nuts man...
You start running away the moment the thing leaves the barrel, also you are most likely wearing an NBC suit.

It actually makes perfect sense when you start using it to zap battalions at a time and give entire regiments cancer, considering the conscript Soviet Army would be bearing down upon the Americans with ridiculous numerical superiority.

ExT1ncT10N #9 Posted Mar 05 2011 - 04:54

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View Postthejoker91, on Mar 01 2011 - 23:55, said:

the cold war, also known as the time where the military reasoning was "ze nukes are awesome, lets put them everywhere we can!"

Nuclear unguided air to air missile? check.
Nuclear guided air to air missile? check.
Nuclear artillery shells? check and double check.
Nuclear demo charges? check.
Nuclear recoiless rifle? check.
Suitcase nukes? only movies for now :P

suitcase nukes do/did really exist - this is a quote from military.com

"Suitcase nukes, or atomic demolition devices (ADMs), are actually small  nuclear bombs. Both the Soviets and the US had such devices during the "Cold War."  They were to be carried by Special Operations Forces who would be  parachuted ahead/behind main force units using the ADMs to destroy large  bridges, collapse mountain passes, or destroy entire major  headquarters.

These ADMs can be no larger than a king size suitcase. Some were  designed for a large backpack. They were considered tactical nukes, and  authority for usage could have been released to the Soviet "Front"  commander or the US Theater Commander-in-Chief. "

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Mac_Chernovsky #10 Posted Mar 06 2011 - 01:39

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View PostSweetTransvestite, on Mar 05 2011 - 03:47, said:

You start running away the moment the thing leaves the barrel, also you are most likely wearing an NBC suit.

It actually makes perfect sense when you start using it to zap battalions at a time and give entire regiments cancer, considering the conscript Soviet Army would be bearing down upon the Americans with ridiculous numerical superiority.


The idea is understandable. Why not control one of the most powerful weapons created for use on the battlefield or the frontline? I just think it seems, like in the video has a said, a last ditch effort weapon or for tactical use against enemy forces. I would be shocked if they wanted to outfit every company with a Nuclear Rifle Squad.

thejoker91 #11 Posted Mar 08 2011 - 12:46

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View PostaRmoreD_eX, on Mar 05 2011 - 04:54, said:

suitcase nukes do/did really exist - this is a quote from military.com

"Suitcase nukes, or atomic demolition devices (ADMs), are actually small  nuclear bombs. Both the Soviets and the US had such devices during the "Cold War."  They were to be carried by Special Operations Forces who would be  parachuted ahead/behind main force units using the ADMs to destroy large  bridges, collapse mountain passes, or destroy entire major  headquarters.

These ADMs can be no larger than a king size suitcase. Some were  designed for a large backpack. They were considered tactical nukes, and  authority for usage could have been released to the Soviet "Front"  commander or the US Theater Commander-in-Chief. "

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Yeah, but I was reffering more to the hollywood-like nuke that fits in a regular office suitcase, thing the ADMs couldnt do xD

jdtherocker #12 Posted Mar 08 2011 - 17:03

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View PostMac2po, on Mar 01 2011 - 23:16, said:

Ha, to tell you the truth the only reason why I know of this weapon was because of the Fatman nuke launcher from the Fallout series.
Agreed is wa slike its the FATMAN!

deafdog007 #13 Posted Apr 20 2011 - 03:57

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Interestingly, i love that fatman!
Anyway, how it can be able to reload during middle of battle?  it is pretty common sense to not shoot 10 meters away to tank (like Maus), that nuke would "nukied" everyone in game.  :o

AngusMcAWESOME #14 Posted Apr 20 2011 - 07:47

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The hilariousness of thread is almost unbearable...  I'm constantly amazed at just how many people don't seem to understand that back in the 50s and early 60s the US was going spastic about putting nuclear warheads on anything that could fire a shell or drop a bomb.  We're the crazy bastards that pioneered retarded concepts like nuclear tipped SAMs, nuclear artillery shells, air-to-missiles...  Hell, we're the assholes that spent several hundreds of millions of dollars trying to see if we could miniatures a nuclear device so we could use them a goddamn hand grenades and the only reason we gave up on it is that there wasn't anything in the entire Actinide series that was capable of making a high order BOOM that was light enough for a man to actually throw the damned thing (well, that and someone at the DoD sobered up enough to realize what a horribly retarded idea a hand tossed nuclear weapon was).

Basically, shit like this is why most sane nations tend not to piss us off to much.  We've got a 335 year tradition of massively overreacting to things and it shows.

xthetenth #15 Posted Apr 20 2011 - 17:11

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Well, right after WWII, the US wanted to make a good deterrent without actually committing much manpower. The solution of course was nukes for everything. The general wisdom was that using tac nukes would make the war go nuclear, and with their nukes for everything policy, the US basically couldn't be attacked without it going nuclear. Infantry unit getting overrun? Davy Crockett. Then that starts the process by which the US tries its damnedest to make everything glow. Those nuke tipped AAMs are part of that. Put some of those on your interceptors and suddenly the poor guidance they could fit looks a whole lot better, and one small nuke in the air isn't nearly as bad as letting a bomber through.

This is what happens when the dominant part of your military is the strategic bomber wing. They decide that peace is their profession and the best way to guarantee it is by making sure that if anyone starts a decent sized war they get cleared to go try to make whoever's responsible into a self-contained light source. It all makes sense, it's just that phrases like "comprehensive urban redevelopment approach" and similar types of black humor tend to get thrown about, and the officers on the ground get told that for morale purposes they really shouldn't tell the bomber pilots that if they're taking off on a war mission, the country's already lost, it's just a question of degree. It's amazing the kind of strategic capability the US could've had though if they'd kept on that track. But hey, we got Dr. Strangelove so that's a win there.

M207 #16 Posted Jul 24 2011 - 20:30

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That's almost as dumb as nuclear grenade, but this isn't dumb:


SolarNine #17 Posted Jul 25 2011 - 17:23

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Holy cow!!!
Loltraktors would be feared :Smile-izmena:

AngusMcAWESOME #18 Posted Jul 25 2011 - 20:25

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View PostM207, on Jul 24 2011 - 20:30, said:

That's almost as dumb as nuclear grenade, but this isn't dumb:
snip nuclear artillery video

Yeah, turns out that was a pretty dumb idea as well, only the M65 was a stupid idea for a lot more reasons than an atomic hand grenade (which was only stupid for two reason, physical limits for nuclear weapon size and range limitations of being a hand-thrown weapon).  With a nuclear artillery shell you've got the size limit issue (you can only make nuclear weapons so small before you don't have enough fissile material for it to go high order), which means you need a large bore gun which in turn means it take a while to get the gun into firing position and into battery to fire. To make matters worse, your delivery system (the gun) has it's own range limits, and on a mechanized battlefield this means there's a good chance your nuclear artillery piece could get captured before it can even have a chance to fire.  Then you've got the problems command and control for release of nuclear weapons, by the time the commander in the field puts his request for weapons release all the way up the chain of command and it comes back down chances are that the other guy isn't in a favorable position to shoot a nuke at them or they've overrun the gun's position and, whelp, no more nuclear artillery in play.

Bombers and missiles just make more sense as delivery systems simply because they're a lot more flexible.  Also, battlefield nukes are just a dumb idea on the face of it since the second someone uses a nuclear weapon every swinging dick involved in that conflict that has nuclear weapons will use theirs, or more simply put, "One flies, they all fly".

moshedovid #19 Posted Jul 26 2011 - 07:19

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make a lichte arty!slap on a 210mm and we'll call it equal to the Ms-1s 45mm.

M207 #20 Posted Jul 27 2011 - 02:34

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If they did make a nuclear grenade, that guy would do this: