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Arminius18 #1 Posted Mar 15 2011 - 22:30

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Can I get advise on the best gun to use?  I just upgraded from Pz IV where the 10.5cm with HE seemed to provide the best chance of success.  I transfered this gun to the VK3601 but not sure that is the best bet here.

SiberianExpress #2 Posted Mar 15 2011 - 22:35

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the 8.8cm KwK 36 L/56 is overall a great gun, but I prefer the accuracy of the 7.5cm KwK 41 L/58 Konisch (its the 3rd most accuracy gun in the game)

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What's the most accurate? I recommend the 88 btw.

Kropp #4 Posted Mar 15 2011 - 22:56

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No its the 7,5cm KwK 45 L/100 of the Panther II but its sucks in the T9 class :(
It should make more damage:D.

SiberianExpress #5 Posted Mar 15 2011 - 23:07

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Guns by accuracy:
1. 20mm TNSh - 0.25
2. 7.5 cm KwK 45 L/100 - 0.26
3. 7.5 cm KwK 41 L/58 konisch - 0.27
4. 10.5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. B - 0.28
5. 8.8 cm PaK 43 L/71 - 0.29

Rissien #6 Posted Mar 15 2011 - 23:13

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Short 88 is my fav on my 3601. Killed KT's with that thing.

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View Posttcullen, on Mar 15 2011 - 22:30, said:

Can I get advise on the best gun to use?  I just upgraded from Pz IV where the 10.5cm with HE seemed to provide the best chance of success.  I transfered this gun to the VK3601 but not sure that is the best bet here.

The Short 88mm brings this tank from Solid in its class, to best in class by far and even a Killer of T7`s like butter if used right.

This has become in my last few weeks my 2nd favorite tank, behind T23.

Its Armor is simply amazing and if angled slightly bounces almost everything it seems like, also he short 88mm is IMO a Tier above the rest, The Accuracy velocity, and DMG is just great.

I love Killing Easy 8`s like butter and also T20`s since your cannon has better range and they actually bounce at range.

I have not yet gotten the Maybach/Best Engine but the rest is fully upgraded, Trust me get the 88mm its worlds apart and just seems to change the entire tank, from Ok/Goodish to a massive threat to Higher Tiers even, hell it DMG`s the Pershing easily, so the Easy 8 Drivers I have faced get Modded or Crew`d right away, also its amazing accuracy lets you hit tracks and its velocity hits tracks on the move.

I cant imagine how awesome it will be with the 23k EXP Engine, Seriously its as fast as Easy 8 [Not as Agile] And it spins very tight circles, mixed with massive Frontal Armor with extreme slope and you get an animal, then add 88 and its godly IMO, If every other German tank where as good as it in there Tiers they would kill all the Russians :)

But for me the 10.5mm vs 7.5 vs 88mm was night and day get the 88mm asap, and if you dont have good engine sit in bush and snipe or brawl, basically IMO it will slug it out with Heavys, but you are faster.

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I just love it and when Hardwipe comes it will be T23 immediately and VkH immediately after that, also on the new map when you are top 3 tanks its godmode since your gun is so DMGing/Accurate/Range, Like I said hide in bush and snipe and enjoy, Track TD`s and then flank em, Brawl with American Meds because they are to squishy and upto M6 heavy, and T34-85 has no chance vs even Drivers IMO, all I wouldsay is watch for T43`s as they start to have great frontal armor, but all my matches lets say 100 Id say 70% I was High tier in match which is highest I have ever had, and with 88mm it will take out Leos and other fast stuff as well, get your crew to 100%, and enjoy

cheal8 #8 Posted Mar 16 2011 - 01:56

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Loved the accuracy of the 75 but it always felt as if I was poking the enemy with a needle. Penetrating hits knocked mere bits off their health.

One weird thing I noticed, if I was in a postion where only my front was showing. like from behind a rock that had enough of an outcropping to cover my side and I angled. I would get less bounces then if I positioned straight on and took their shots at 0. I always thought as long as its just your front showing and you turned to angle that it would effectively increase your protection?

Kalinin #9 Posted Mar 16 2011 - 02:01

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Konisch w/gold rounds will beat the short 88 in every way except per-shot damage. It'll do significantly more DPS with better accuracy, lower aim time, and much better penetration. It will even outdo the long 88 which still needs gold rounds of it's own to get a little better penetration than Konisch's gold rounds. Without gold rounds for the konisch however... dps is more than halved and penetration takes a big hit too. Still better penetration than short 88 but much lower dps.

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Get the best Maybach the tree can offer and you'll be pleasantly surprised how fast that thing can haul around, and the short-88 can make mincemeat out of anything its tier or lower, even the KV3 if you git it right.

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View PostKalinin, on Mar 16 2011 - 02:01, said:

Konisch w/gold rounds will beat the short 88 in every way except per-shot damage. It'll do significantly more DPS with better accuracy, lower aim time, and much better penetration. It will even outdo the long 88 which still needs gold rounds of it's own to get a little better penetration than Konisch's gold rounds. Without gold rounds for the konisch however... dps is more than halved and penetration takes a big hit too. Still better penetration than short 88 but much lower dps.

Leaving gold rounds out of the discussion--the 88 is definitely the best gun for this tank.  With that mounted, the tank can take on and defeat nearly all comers.

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View PostPanzerleiter, on Mar 16 2011 - 06:41, said:

Leaving gold rounds out of the discussion--the 88 is definitely the best gun for this tank.  With that mounted, the tank can take on and defeat nearly all comers.

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Its godly with 88 and easily will kill any in its class regularly, and it will kill others higher if it can pen them

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View PostKalinin, on Mar 16 2011 - 02:01, said:

Konisch w/gold rounds will beat the short 88 in every way except per-shot damage. It'll do significantly more DPS with better accuracy, lower aim time, and much better penetration. It will even outdo the long 88 which still needs gold rounds of it's own to get a little better penetration than Konisch's gold rounds. Without gold rounds for the konisch however... dps is more than halved and penetration takes a big hit too. Still better penetration than short 88 but much lower dps.

Konisch with gold rounds vs. 88 with gold rounds. Now re-state your paragraph.

SirBarnick #14 Posted Mar 16 2011 - 21:57

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I love the accuracy of the 75, but the damage of an 88 is something to be feared.  With the 88 you can easily take on heavies in your own tier, and I'd say I'm evenly matched against heavies a tier higher.  Plus, the 88 is pretty darn accurate in its own right... I've been getting sniper badges every third battle or so.

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View Postluckystrikes03, on Mar 16 2011 - 21:03, said:

Konisch with gold rounds vs. 88 with gold rounds. Now re-state your paragraph.
Nothing changes. Short 88 with gold rounds is badly outclassed and the long 88 with gold rounds only gets a bit better penetration than Konisch with gold rounds. Gold long 88 gets DPM of 1971.2 and average penetration of 237, Gold Konisch gets 2828.1 and average penetration of 225.

ZsaszIX #16 Posted May 20 2011 - 04:36

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8.8 L\56 is KING. Why is that? Because the 8.8 L\56 can use the HE rounds which are not so much effected by penetration.

The 7.5 does not have an option of HE for the non paying player.




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