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Blackhorse_Six_ #41 Posted Dec 20 2013 - 21:18

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View PostXlucine, on Dec 20 2013 - 14:23, said:

Chief's AHOA has gold and black braid

 

Black core? ... vague recollection ...

 

Hadn't looked that closely - the color-tone in the photo led me to assume that it was a gold-metallic threaded braid, which loses it's luster over time, but is distinctive nonetheless. The loss of luster creates shadows in the braid.

 

I cannot remember what the material is called precisely, but I know that years ago, the same or similar thread was popular tradition among senior NCOs in the US Navy by which to have their rates embroidered on the sleeves of their dress coats. This was not everyday embroidery, as it was done with very heavy, Gold, Silver, Red, White, and IIRC, Blue metallic thread in accordance with the traditional colors of the rate represented. I think the tradition originated with the Far East Stations, where uniform tailoring and embroidery is relatively cheap; a right-of-passage sort of thing. But, all the Old Chiefs I once knew are gone now, so I cannot quiz one about it.

 

I've only seen the AHOA once in-person, and was perhaps so dazzled by it's awsomeness that the details were washed-out by the brilliance of it all ... :tongue:

 

The Chieftain handles the AHOA every day, so maybe he could straighten it out for us ...

 



Swisscheesy #42 Posted Dec 20 2013 - 22:53

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View PostOwenstv, on Dec 18 2013 - 17:45, said:

When do we get to see the review of the Obj 279??  Even better, are there plans for it in game? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obyekt_279

 

I would love to see it in game. :justwait:



Chopa #43 Posted Dec 21 2013 - 03:33

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Different hat braid is so you can tell them apart......

Mausketeer #44 Posted Dec 24 2013 - 04:09

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Dec 18 2013 - 09:48, said:

OK, maybe we're not done with Kubinka quite yet.

I could spend atleast a week or 2 just learning about all these different tanks!



Sno_hoe #45 Posted Dec 26 2013 - 05:05

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Chieftain, did you make it to the Red Army Museum in Moscow when you were there?  If my memory serves me correct they have a nice collection of out door exhibits (including a KV-2) and an MS1 inside.

 

Cheers!

 

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http://forum.worldof...tic-war-moscow/

Sno_hoe #47 Posted Dec 27 2013 - 00:52

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My mistake my memory must be getting (more?) fuzzy as I should have said the Central Armed Forces Museum.   I am sure that my tour guide said it was the red army museum but that was 10 years ago.

 

http://en.wikipedia....d_Forces_Museum

 

Cheers!

 

no_dice

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by no_dice, Dec 27 2013 - 01:01.


The_Chieftain #48 Posted Dec 27 2013 - 17:42

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Huh. The forum thread got nuked.

 

Here's the portal version, while I resuscitate the thread.

http://worldoftanks....-forces-Moscow/

 



Half_fried_cat #49 Posted Dec 30 2013 - 19:03

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I have a question: how did you move gun so easily? Isn't it supposed to have some sort of hand crank to traverse?

 

Also conclusion was a little bit short. I think it was worth mentioning taht one of the reasons that Obj. 704 remained as a test model was insufficient crew comfort conditions, which you showed in video.

 

Still, thank you for video! 

 

Cheers, 

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The_Chieftain #50 Posted Dec 30 2013 - 19:14

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Traverse was broken.

 

I didn't know that the Soviet tests concluded 'too cramped'.



VooDooPC #51 Posted Dec 30 2013 - 19:31

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What is the actual side to side traverse of the gun? I know when the Object 704 was originally released in game it could practically shoot around corners. Is the current traverse historical?

DiscoSatan #52 Posted Dec 30 2013 - 20:31

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"significant emotional event" LMFAO!!!! 

Half_fried_cat #53 Posted Dec 30 2013 - 20:54

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Dec 30 2013 - 19:14, said:

Traverse was broken.

 

I didn't know that the Soviet tests concluded 'too cramped'.

In most cases  there is talk about driver conditions in available literature.

For example, in Solyankin's "Soviet heavy SPG in 1941-1945" stated that /rough translation/ "Field testing showed rather cramped work conditions for the crew due to heavilly sloped frontal and side armor of SPG and big recoil of a gun (900mm) and with placement of a driver inside of SPG. High sitting position of a driver and usage of only one looking device by him (that was placed in the roof of a hul) led to decreasing of field of view. Additionally, working conditions of a driver were worsened by high oscillatons of SPG on move".



Xlucine #54 Posted Dec 30 2013 - 21:17

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Obvious question time: how much room was there under the drivers seat? Did you repeat the IS-4 situation? I can understand how cramped the rest is, but the drivers seat looks too cramped to believe.

The_Chieftain #55 Posted Dec 30 2013 - 22:01

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 Partially.  I'm not sure if the seat was up our down.  Either way, I could not drive it either head up or head down.

DDsSmokeOverpenRNGBounce #56 Posted Dec 31 2013 - 01:46

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Glorious Soviet vehicle have byest camo because very low to ground!  

 

Does not matter if proletarian crew must sit in uncomfortable position, comrade!

 

Driver Back pain and commander charlie horse necessary for victory of international revolution and destruction of vile fascist (but more comfortable) box-tyenk with no camo!

 

Soviet engineering byest engineering!  Trust it with your life, comrade!



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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Dec 18 2013 - 18:07, said:

I'll look at the thumbnail.

 

I'm not too happy with the part 2 I'm afraid. Cameraman focuses far too much on me, and not enough on the tank. It was the first vehicle we shot in Kubinka, and he hadn't been trained in yet.

So off to the gulag with the camera man then?

 

Wonder how long Chieftain would last inside the tank if he did close the hatch and couldn't open it?



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View PostKnightmareX13, on Dec 30 2013 - 20:30, said:

So off to the gulag with the camera man then?

 

Wonder how long Chieftain would last inside the tank if he did close the hatch and couldn't open it?

He could make a nice little fire using all that grease.



Xlucine #59 Posted Dec 31 2013 - 22:23

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View PostGeneral_von_Nuben, on Dec 31 2013 - 00:46, said:

 vile fascist (but more comfortable) box-tyenk with no camo!

 

The big cats were surprisingly uncomfortable for something of that size



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Спасибо за отличное видео! Я подумал, если на эту технику поставить суперсовременную электронику и систему управления огнём, эта 152 мм пушка наверное и танк Абрамс в щепки разнесёт!!!




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