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bsschultes #1 Posted Jan 04 2014 - 04:35

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when are they nerfing the kv-1s's 122mm  i heard it was next  update they are taking away the 122 do u know when and if they are your thoughts plz 

 

i hope they don't nerf it i love mine i just love blasting away little tanks:playing: 

 

 

DIE ARTY:izmena:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE THAT OUT OF THE GAME  

 

when arty is in the game :hiding:i'm like that when no arty :smile:that's me u can't have a party if there's arty 

 



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Jefftiffy #3 Posted Jan 04 2014 - 04:38

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#1 misconception about the KV1s caused by noobs. KV1S is over powered. Reason kill it while it reloads!!! Don't let it peek-a-boom. Kill it with focus fire so it either lights on fire or gets ammo racked because of their paper armor.

 

#2 most arty sucks right now save certain branches.



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Misconception #3 - The KV1S is a heavy tank. It is really a tough medium and needs to be played that way.

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Stamson #7 Posted Jan 04 2014 - 04:57

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It's about damn time.

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View Postbsschultes, on Jan 03 2014 - 20:35, said:

when are they nerfing the kv-1s's 122mm  i heard it was next  update they are taking away the 122 do u know when and if they are your thoughts plz 

 

i hope they don't nerf it i love mine i just love blasting away little tanks:playing: 

 

 

DIE ARTY:izmena:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE THAT OUT OF THE GAME  

 

when arty is in the game :hiding:i'm like that when no arty :smile:that's me u can't have a party if there's arty 

 

 

Well they were talking about "nerf'g" the kv1s. but it would make no difference.

 

1. The kv1s would get its 122mm taken and given a 100mm, but it would also be dropped to tier 5

2. The kv122 would be introduced which is basically a kv1s and it would have the 122mm at tier 6

 

so only thing that really changes if they ever do the split is the name. 



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View PostJefftiffy, on Jan 03 2014 - 22:38, said:

#1 misconception about the KV1s caused by noobs. KV1S is over powered. Reason kill it while it reloads!!! Don't let it peek-a-boom. Kill it with focus fire so it either lights on fire or gets ammo racked because of their paper armor.

 

#2 most arty sucks right now save certain branches.

Kill it while it reloads? How many time have you ever faced a KV-1S not in a group? You would be blasted in half before you get the chance by the other pricks in his group.



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View PostJefftiffy, on Jan 04 2014 - 04:38, said:

#1 misconception about the KV1s caused by noobs. KV1S is over powered. Reason kill it while it reloads

 

So by this logic artillery is not overpowered either...but wait you just cried about artillery.....that doesnt make sense

 

 

400 dmg every 12 seconds from a tier 6 tank....sorry not buying it....

 



Jefftiffy #11 Posted Jan 04 2014 - 05:13

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View Postesdren, on Jan 03 2014 - 23:11, said:

 

So by this logic artillery is not overpowered either...but wait you just cried about artillery.....that doesnt make sense

 

 

400 dmg every 12 seconds from a tier 6 tank....sorry not buying it....

 

Maybe you should have your reading comprehension checked and use common sense first. High alpha tanks with high pen are easy to kill. Arty shoots and hopes the RNG gives them a decent roll there is a huge difference. Don't forget arty can be one shotted my most tanks past T6.


Edited by Jefftiffy, Jan 04 2014 - 05:18.


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The biggest problem with the KV1s is the rate of fire. Tier 6 heavy tanks can't kill it in a shoot-out because it gets such a lead with the first shot and doesn't really fall behind in DPM.  I say it should shoot at 3.25-3.5 RPM.  

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View PostAtrophy, on Jan 04 2014 - 05:27, said:

The biggest problem with the KV1s is the rate of fire. Tier 6 heavy tanks can't kill it in a shoot-out because it gets such a lead with the first shot and doesn't really fall behind in DPM.  I say it should shoot at 3.25-3.5 RPM.  

That's utter and complete BS. I took on a KV-1S from the front using a Comet.

 

Of course, it's because i blew up his gun 5 times.



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My win rate in the kv1s is higher than my WR in the T-50 before it got it's legs cut off. (65% and 64% respectively after over 175 games)  Then again my T1 heavy WR is even higher and I don't see people complaining much about that tank. (71% after 35 battles thanks MM :)  

 

I don't even platoon with the thing.  My point is that a tier 7 medium should out dpm a tier 6 heavy but the kv1s is just way better than the other tanks it directly competes with.  Play medium tank companies sometime with anything but KV1s' and tell me how it goes.


Edited by Atrophy, Jan 04 2014 - 05:42.


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View Postbsschultes, on Jan 04 2014 - 04:35, said:

when are they nerfing the kv-1s's 122mm  i heard it was next  update they are taking away the 122 do u know when and if they are your thoughts plz 

 

i hope they don't nerf it i love mine i just love blasting away little tanks:playing: 

 

 

DIE ARTY:izmena:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE THAT OUT OF THE GAME  

 

when arty is in the game :hiding:i'm like that when no arty :smile:that's me u can't have a party if there's arty 

 

 

They are NOT taking away the 122. They are going to nerf the speed of the 1S to KV-1 levels. So, the KV-1S will be a tier V with an 85 mm gun and the 122 will stay at tier VI as the new reborn KV-85. I hope it will be the same as with the VK30.01H though, where you get both tanks. (KV-1S and KV-85).



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View PostCommander_to, on Jan 04 2014 - 08:59, said:

They are NOT taking away the 122. They are going to nerf the speed of the 1S to KV-1 levels. So, the KV-1S will be a tier V with an 85 mm gun and the 122 will stay at tier VI as the new reborn KV-85. I hope it will be the same as with the VK30.01H though, where you get both tanks. (KV-1S and KV-85).

 

Also, if KV-1S is OP, the KV-2 would be monstrously OP because of the alpha it deals. 1 HE shell completely crushes any tier IV tank.



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Kv-1S does overperform in hands of just about every player.

 

But that's more due to people at tier 6 being unable to deal with alpha damage...



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View PostJefftiffy, on Jan 04 2014 - 05:13, said:

Maybe you should have your reading comprehension checked and use common sense first. High alpha tanks with high pen are easy to kill. Arty shoots and hopes the RNG gives them a decent roll there is a huge difference. Don't forget arty can be one shotted my most tanks past T6.

 

So explain to me how high alpha tanks are so easy to kill?  Im not understanding your math....810 hp with 800 dmg every 12 seconds vs any t6 med with approx 750hp and 500-600 dmg every 12 seconds.  How exactly is 600 > 800? 

 

Of course i could also list heavy tanks, but we all know the rest of the t6 heavys arent even worth listing as the 1s outperforms them in every way.  there is a reason the 1s is the primary vehicle for company battles



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That new method shown on FTR to find out if a tank is OP shows that the KV1S is completely overpowered.

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View Postesdren, on Jan 04 2014 - 06:16, said:

 

So explain to me how high alpha tanks are so easy to kill?  Im not understanding your math....810 hp with 800 dmg every 12 seconds vs any t6 med with approx 750hp and 500-600 dmg every 12 seconds.  How exactly is 600 > 800? 

 

Of course i could also list heavy tanks, but we all know the rest of the t6 heavys arent even worth listing as the 1s outperforms them in every way.  there is a reason the 1s is the primary vehicle for company battles

Lets see. KV2 can one shot the KV 1S. Medium tanks are meant to circle and flank not sit in front of them giving the KV1S a 100% accuracy. If you keep moving you can move faster than the KV1S can turn and more than likely cause them to miss a shot. (They miss them all the time when I am going just 30km/h now imagine going 40-50km/h)


Edited by Jefftiffy, Jan 04 2014 - 17:49.





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