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mttyflynn #1 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:21

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I have been getting murdered by Artillery and Pz1cs for several month now, it detracts from the fun of the game. I am not going to complain about how non-historical SPGs are or how OP they, rather I would ask that anything that is OP be relegated to a premium...SPG and Pz1c,
YES, they would be deadlier but rarer and I hate nerfing anything.

Historically The US Army 9/10 used the M7 Priest in DIRECT fire, artillery as usually was towed and miles away.

The Pz1c is just too murderous to be so widely used...the weakest tank is one of the deadliest.

Just my Humble opinion.



Swizsedtoast #2 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:23

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lol more money for wg

IcedBroom #3 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:28

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Arty OP? 8.7 artys would like to have a word with you! As well as my S-51!

oxlink #4 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:29

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View Postmttyflynn, on Jan 05 2014 - 23:21, said:

I have been getting murdered by Artillery and Pz1cs for several month now, it detracts from the fun of the game. I am not going to complain about how non-historical SPGs are or how OP they, rather I would ask that anything that is OP be relegated to a premium...SPG and Pz1c,
YES, they would be deadlier but rarer and I hate nerfing anything.

Historically The US Army 9/10 used the M7 Priest in DIRECT fire, artillery as usually was towed and miles away.

The Pz1c is just too murderous to be so widely used...the weakest tank is one of the deadliest.

Just my Humble opinion.

 

maybe you should do a google search

Self Propelled Guns

http://www.militaryf...pelled-guns.asp

http://en.wikipedia....of_World_War_II

 

https://www.google.c...iw=1280&bih=884

Pz1C killing a KV-2<a href='http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/50/1386696293-wot-3.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='' rel='nofollow'>http://image.noelsha...96293-wot-3.jpg</a>

 

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Edited by oxlink, Jan 06 2014 - 05:33.


greentrashmasher #5 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:35

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If you are getting whooped by them then you should play those vehicles so you can understand them better. Then you will be able to defeat them or counter their strengths better.

See, its all about getting better!



Genesis0071 #6 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:37

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I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong. :smile:

RazrTRiG #7 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:38

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4 battles an SPG. You truly do not understand how difficult 8.6 has made it for arties.They are far from OP. 

mttyflynn #8 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:48

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View Postgreentrashmasher, on Jan 06 2014 - 05:35, said:

If you are getting whooped by them then you should play those vehicles so you can understand them better. Then you will be able to defeat them or counter their strengths better.

See, its all about getting better!


I am, I have a Pz1c ...SPGs no, and they should NOT be nerfed just rarer.



mttyflynn #9 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:50

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View PostIcedbroom, on Jan 06 2014 - 05:28, said:

Arty OP? 8.7 artys would like to have a word with you! As well as my S-51!

...and I said I did NOT want artillery NERFED it is wrong to ruin someone elses game because they do not know how to dodge artillery. I would like to see artillery made historic so they can go TD and have some chance of survival.



mttyflynn #10 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:52

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View Postoxlink, on Jan 06 2014 - 05:29, said:

 

maybe you should do a google search

Self Propelled Guns

http://www.militaryf...pelled-guns.asp

http://en.wikipedia....of_World_War_II

 

https://www.google.c...iw=1280&bih=884

Pz1C killing a KV-2<a href='http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/50/1386696293-wot-3.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='' rel='nofollow'>http://image.noelsha...96293-wot-3.jpg</a>

 

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I Learned one thing: I believe that the Pz1C users I have encountered are using the 7.92mm because I have been getting hit with more than 10 rounds at a time... I know I have more success with the 7.92 vs the 20mm.



mttyflynn #11 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 05:53

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View PostRazrTRiG, on Jan 06 2014 - 05:38, said:

4 battles an SPG. You truly do not understand how difficult 8.6 has made it for arties.They are far from OP. 


You are correct, but I have sympathy.



mttyflynn #12 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 06:01

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View Postoxlink, on Jan 06 2014 - 05:29, said:

 

maybe you should do a google search

Self Propelled Guns

http://www.militaryf...pelled-guns.asp

http://en.wikipedia....of_World_War_II

 

https://www.google.c...iw=1280&bih=884

Pz1C killing a KV-2<a href='http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2013/50/1386696293-wot-3.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='' rel='nofollow'>http://image.noelsha...96293-wot-3.jpg</a>

 

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Regardless, the M37 was never intended for frontline direct fire - instead relegated to behind-the lines support... 500-1500 meters is NOT behind the lines support.(this info is good for the M (BIG M-F) 12.



ket101 #13 Posted Jan 06 2014 - 06:07

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The problem with making them premium is the definition of a premium tank in the eyes of WG.  For them, a premium tank should be better than a stock tank of the same tier, but not as good as an elite one.  So technically, no premium tank should be OP.

BAR_Kakba #14 Posted Jan 19 2014 - 09:04

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View Postmttyflynn, on Jan 05 2014 - 23:01, said:

Regardless, the M37 was never intended for frontline direct fire - instead relegated to behind-the lines support... 500-1500 meters is NOT behind the lines support.(this info is good for the M (BIG M-F) 12.


True!... love your graphic HILLARIOUS!!!!! and grandly accurate!



Trailer_Tank_Boy #15 Posted Jan 19 2014 - 22:01

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Someone else who doesn't now how to counter a circling light?  The thing you want to do OP is ask "How do I handle a circling light." NOT ask for tanks to be nerfed based on nearly NO experience in the game.  That's kinda silly.

Lumina #16 Posted Jan 19 2014 - 22:06

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I rarely have problems vs the Pz1C.   Only fear them if you have under 20mm of frontal armor. with around 20mm you can angle your front and literally make their mauser machine gun crap.  Heck better yet 30mm hulls you don't even have to angle to screw a Pz1C, there are plenty of tanks with that much armor at tier III and IV and up. 

 

Pz1C is mostly for spanking lower tier enemies or enemies that have literally no armor.   Even then it's restricted to like 380m engagement range before it's weapon is useless.    Personally I'd prefer using the PzIII Ausf A, less armor but 5cm gun is just far more useful. 






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