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Naughtius_Maximus #201 Posted Jan 21 2014 - 19:13

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View PostValan, on Jan 19 2014 - 04:15, said:

Lert, by chance have you heard the Chieftain's nerf & buff comments about how Wargaming approaches it, in the RitaGamer2 - Q&A with SilentStalker & Chieftain?

Listen between the 31 minute mark to 1 hour mark for it.

 

In essence Wargaming researchers find new tank data, then later in Minsk Storm, Serb & Vallter decide when & how to nerf and or buff 'a whole line at a line', if Chieftain's comments on RitaGamer2's stream are accurate.  In particular the Chieftain, sent off a suggestion to Minsk for the USA T18 td and T57 arty to be switched: T18 becoming an arty; T57 becoming an td.  Chieftain did not say if that suggestion was taken up to be implemented, by Storm & Serb or not.  In the nutshell, the idea of doing buffs or nerfs for 'a whole line at a time' is the takeaway.

 

In terms the Cheiftain's stream comments being applied to patch 8.11, this likely means the following tank lines will be altered:

 

T110E3  to Wolverine, to T18

T110E4  to T49, to T18

Object 268 to AT-1

 

 

To be fair they typically do a fairly decent job of it. Previously the Soviet medium line was a mess due to the 100mm. Made them all low DPM machines that strangely enough wanted to fight close range (which is contradictory.) They streamlined the entire line so it is more focused on close range flanking maneuvers, with meh pen, high DPM, and high agility being key traits to the line.



rosszpenz #202 Posted Jan 21 2014 - 20:44

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View Postdimitriperonov12, on Jan 21 2014 - 18:39, said:

One do you own a batchat? That can spot you from anywhere on the map... Two I guess uve decided the game is so far gone that throwing t10 scouts in wouldn't unbalance the game anymore than It is 

No, but a Batchat isn't more capable of spotting anything than any other tank with the same 400m viewrange. And there aren't any dedicated scouts that aren't matched or outperformed in spotting range by a vast majority of T10 tanks.

 



chrisdxi #203 Posted Jan 22 2014 - 17:59

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Haha, your sucha tease you kitty! =P

Anyways,

timestamps for anyone that's interested;

150mm and 152mm are mentioned @ 2:33
130mm and 170mm are mentioned @ 2:42
Foch 155 rebalance are mentioned @ 2:50

It just seems odd, to me this will not have too much of an affect on the Foch 155 as it will only reduce it's Power to Weight ratio down to 17.36 which is not that big of a nerf. It is my opinion that if this is the extent of things then the Foch 155 is getting off very lightly. 

 

 

 

 

No wen they highlight the tanks in the garage it highlights the

View PostzGarmin, on Jan 16 2014 - 10:43, said:


Haha, your sucha tease you kitty! =P

Anyways,

timestamps for anyone that's interested;

150mm and 152mm are mentioned @ 2:33
130mm and 170mm are mentioned @ 2:42
Foch 155 rebalance are mentioned @ 2:50

It just seems odd, to me this will not have too much of an affect on the Foch 155 as it will only reduce it's Power to Weight ratio down to 17.36 which is not that big of a nerf. It is my opinion that if this is the extent of things then the Foch 155 is getting off very lightly.

No the fotch's gun will also go from 850 damage to 750 damage because it highlits it in the garage at the bottem in the vid from 2.28-2.29

 



rosszpenz #204 Posted Jan 23 2014 - 16:45

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View PostCanadian_Mano, on Jan 16 2014 - 19:02, said:

I cannot wait for this patch, the 268 will become a death dealing monster, 3.53 rpm to an even 4 rpm. Add to that skill bonuses and food, this thing is going to roooooooooock.

 

BiA+ Food= 5.08 rpm, or a 11.8s reload.

Not if camo bonus will be removed and it'll have the camo of an IS-8.



GrayskuII_ #205 Posted Jan 23 2014 - 17:22

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View PostDaigensui, on Jan 16 2014 - 04:28, said:

 

Because WT is a trash of a game when it comes to ground forces.

 

just like WOT when they first started, just watch some videos and see how broken this game was/is.



KennyTank #206 Posted Jan 28 2014 - 16:47

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to all thos saying that WT is beter or shiter thean WoT just remembver that WoTR has been live for 4 years and WT is still in OBT for air and CBT for grond stuff so bu for you say WT is beter or shiter just remember that WT is at WoT lv back at 2011.

KennyTank #207 Posted Jan 28 2014 - 16:55

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just think how good WT & WoT will be in 4 years time, / ps WT will not go live till 2015 so WoT has 5+ years head start over WT in the post OBT lv.

Thorthemighty #208 Posted Jan 28 2014 - 17:18

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I say no to nerfing the arty if anything re-buff to where it was and the HT need to stop whining because its just how arty works death from above.

Blindman081 #209 Posted Jan 28 2014 - 18:49

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Foch is getting the -15% camo, an armor nerf, mobility nerf, alpha nerf and pen nerf for premium ammo.

 

http://ftr.wot-news....h&submit=Search



triack2000 #210 Posted Feb 05 2014 - 18:07

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View Post007Infinitemortal, on Jan 16 2014 - 10:29, said:

I don't know if you guys agree with me but they need to rework the camo system so TDs aren't invisible.

 

Some tank destroyers with monstrosity hitting guns need their camo reworked.  I have a jg pz E 100 and i can not believe how often it is not spotted. With one of the biggest silhouettes and guns it needs spotted more. Though tanks like the stugg and the E25 need their camo kept. It makes them the tank destroyers they are. You take away some of tanks that have small damage though large camo, you then destroy the TD game.



mormo #211 Posted Feb 05 2014 - 19:56

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a que bueno

 



teamoldmill #212 Posted Feb 05 2014 - 20:36

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View PostFenriswaffles, on Jan 16 2014 - 11:12, said:

 

See, most of those games people are getting 10k+ damage in the WT E100 in are not games they were visible too often in. Its already a popular target so being spotted is well nigh a quick death.

 

And yet it still happens. It has great spotting range, the most accurate gun in the game, one of the lowest aim times in the game, and 3300 burst, and a very quick burst at that

 

It can easily sit well beyond spotting range behind the battle front and belt out damage. Even when set alone it can STILL spot on its own and kill off a tank from full HP before they have time to aim in on it from the time its spotted.


Then why does the Waffle have the lowest spots of any T10 TD? This is a myth. Its camo more than makes up for the 10 meters extra spotting range.

 

One scout could easily light up an entire German team as they flounder around trying to get into position.

 

Enemy team simply loads some HE, waits for the spots, waffles explode. Your Leo, the only tank that can scout for Germany at that level, better be the squirreliest guy ever.



poppavein #213 Posted Feb 05 2014 - 21:07

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View PostT4NK3, on Jan 16 2014 - 01:34, said:

Realy ? Iv been grinding my *** off for the 268 only for it to get nerfed next patch. Great...

 

It could have been worse.  They could have waited to nerf it to the ground, after you played it for several hundred games, after it became your favorite tank.

 

This has happened to me several times now ...

 

 



x45 #214 Posted Feb 05 2014 - 21:13

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Looking forward to it, when is the update?

x45 #215 Posted Feb 05 2014 - 21:14

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Sounds nice that national battle thing. 

NOTE: u can switch it off in settings if u dislike it

 



Ecksdeee #216 Posted Feb 05 2014 - 21:32

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View PostJudZuechler, on Jan 16 2014 - 10:26, said:

8.11? are you kidding? why the flaming hell am i sitting here waiting for 9.0 when WT groundforces are about to be released?

 

Lol if you think the WoT community is bad i can't wait to see the complaints about the LACK of community with the other game.



___SirKillsALot___ #217 Posted Feb 05 2014 - 21:47

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Looking forward to turning the chat option off.  Tired of morons talking smack when they don't even do half as well as you or have the same rating but 8x the amount of games.  Had to shutup one butthurt kid after I focused him, he kept going on and on about how good he was and how bad I was because I damaged him (lol right?).  End of the game - I doubled his damage....  I helped my team, he was carried by his team for the win.  Dude even missed hitting an IS3 a tanks length in front of him (was not a bounce, was a complete miss).

Toyfox #218 Posted Feb 05 2014 - 21:50

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For those who don't know: DPM IS nerfed. Especially for the Foch 155 since the tank only gets -100 alpha and no reload shortened to compensate. Also ALL Tank Destroyers gets nerfed in visabiliy since the change will make them basicly Heavy tanks when it comes to bush sniping. Instead of the former 30% ish camo rating drop they now lose the full 50%...

 

IMO they ruined the TD's but that also opens up a lot more fun for tanks like the MAUS and other big health pool heavy tanks :).



invalid_attack #219 Posted Feb 11 2014 - 02:03

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eeuuhh they still haven't buff the med's yet

sirdano #220 Posted Feb 11 2014 - 03:07

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Hum....

On the storing camo how does that work?

If I have a su-152 with camo then sell and buy a isu-152 do I get to put the su-152 camo on it?






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