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Unraveler #661 Posted Jan 29 2014 - 17:09

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View PostWalter_Sobchak, on Jan 29 2014 - 18:05, said:


A king tiger trying to chug its way through the mountains of Switzerland would be hilarious.  I suspect the Panther would disable itself pretty quickly on those mountains as well. 

 

Don't worry about the mountains. You're a power-hungry dictator and will take to battle throughout Europe.



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View PostWalter_Sobchak, on Jan 29 2014 - 17:05, said:


A king tiger trying to chug its way through the mountains of Switzerland would be hilarious.  I suspect the Panther would disable itself pretty quickly on those mountains as well. 

 

You have been listening too much to the russian propaganda machine and it was the King Tiger that had the faulty transmission not the Panther.

The T-44A also had a faulty transmission but nobody berates that tank.  Funny isn't it?



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View PostKnuckleduster_2015, on Jan 29 2014 - 10:11, said:

 

You have been listening too much to the russian propaganda machine and it was the King Tiger that had the faulty transmission not the Panther.

The T-44A also had a faulty transmission but nobody berates that tank.  Funny isn't it?

It was actually the French that noted that the Panther had faulty transmission. The French armored division that was equipped Panthers absolutely hated them.



Knuckleduster_2015 #664 Posted Jan 29 2014 - 17:17

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View Postjbrowning, on Jan 29 2014 - 17:00, said:

We are taking about real tanks and not the game correct???

 

Yes the game is pathetic with it's russian super tanks.



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View PostKnuckleduster_2015, on Jan 29 2014 - 10:11, said:

 

You have been listening too much to the russian propaganda machine and it was the King Tiger that had the faulty transmission not the Panther.

The T-44A also had a faulty transmission but nobody berates that tank.  Funny isn't it?

 

Blame the transmissions for being faulty when you put 45 tons on an automotive system meant for 30. Yeaaaaaaaa.....



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Little history note the force that destroyed most German armor in Stalingrad ???? Rats they infested the tanks and ate the wiring shorting out the engines making them Useless main reason there's so many nice pz4s in the museums over there.

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View Postxiantom, on Jan 29 2014 - 17:12, said:

It was actually the French that noted that the Panther had faulty transmission. The French armored division that was equipped Panthers absolutely hated them.

 

Are you sure that it wasn't old and worn out transmission?



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View PostKnuckleduster_2015, on Jan 29 2014 - 10:19, said:

 

Are you sure that it wasn't old and worn out transmission?

Are you sure you know anything about tanks?



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View Postxiantom, on Jan 29 2014 - 17:20, said:

Are you sure you know anything about tanks?

 

Yes.



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View PostKnuckleduster_2015, on Jan 29 2014 - 11:11, said:

 

You have been listening too much to the russian propaganda machine and it was the King Tiger that had the faulty transmission not the Panther.

The T-44A also had a faulty transmission but nobody berates that tank.  Funny isn't it?


Actually, the only Russian propaganda I have is this lovely picture that hangs in my back room.  My mother got it for me when I was a young lad.  My views on the Panther are based mostly on reading works by American and British writers.  So no, not much Russian propaganda.  Anyway, the weakest part of the Panther was the final drives.  Everyone knows this.

 



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View PostWalter_Sobchak, on Jan 29 2014 - 11:24, said:


Actually, the only Russian propaganda I have is this lovely picture that hangs in my back room.  My mother got it for me when I was a young lad.  My views on the Panther are based mostly on reading works by American and British writers.  So no, not much Russian propaganda.  Anyway, the weakest part of the Panther was the final drives.  Everyone knows this.

 

 

Ahaha, this is great. 

 

View PostKnuckleduster_2015, on Jan 29 2014 - 11:19, said:

 

Are you sure that it wasn't old and worn out transmission?

 

When a transmission lasts for 150 km, it can't be that old. Also, then you get to the engine. Panthers in 1944 achieved an engine life of 700 km at the cost of cutting the horsepower down to 520 (IIRC). This is still less than the engines on the very first T-34s at maximum power.



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View Postjbrowning, on Jan 29 2014 - 16:57, said:

What's pathetic about it ever hear of the battle of Kursk??? Life of a tank crew was days in that battle for Russians they threw everything in huge numbers but the German tanks were better in armor and pen they couldn't handle the numbers the Russian threw at them but the Russian tankers paid dearly for the victory 

Is this the battle where the Red army smashed a prepared assault by an equivalent force of Germans trying to cut through a salient that had been produced during a previous campaign? The one where defence in depth and good preparation proved to be a winning combination when faced with an armoured spearhead?

 

What does this prove, exactly?



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View Postjbrowning, on Jan 29 2014 - 11:19, said:

Little history note the force that destroyed most German armor in Stalingrad ???? Rats they infested the tanks and ate the wiring shorting out the engines making them Useless main reason there's so many nice pz4s in the museums over there.


You might want to provide a source for a claim like that.



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Also documentary battle of Stalingrad on Netflix :)

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View PostEnsignExpendable, on Jan 29 2014 - 11:33, said:

 

Ahaha, this is great. 

 

 

When a transmission lasts for 150 km, it can't be that old. Also, then you get to the engine. Panthers in 1944 achieved an engine life of 700 km at the cost of cutting the horsepower down to 520 (IIRC). This is still less than the engines on the very first T-34s at maximum power.


Hey EE, can you translate the text on that poster for me?



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View Postjbrowning, on Jan 29 2014 - 17:38, said:

Also documentary battle of Stalingrad on Netflix :)

Truly the best source for factual information.



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Other part the carpet bombing off Stalingrad destroyed the buildings but left them standing the horrible conditions with the cold the city's rat infestation and all the ruble in the streets made the armor a steel coffin. Also they showed test that the Grease used in the German gun froze up jamming weapons while Russians used a little gasoline to free up there weapons and German helmets lowers body core temps of the soldiers while Russian were better equipped for battle

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View PostToxn, on Jan 29 2014 - 16:42, said:

Truly the best source for factual information.

You can watch it for your self beside trying to be cute with useless one liners. I looked at your stats your a Russian heavy tanker real world facts Germans built better equipment they just weren't prepared for the Russian winters. 



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View PostToxn, on Jan 29 2014 - 16:42, said:

Truly the best source for factual information.

How old are you anyways your post come off as very immature 



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View PostWalter_Sobchak, on Jan 29 2014 - 11:39, said:


Hey EE, can you translate the text on that poster for me?

" Prevrashenie Fritzev" The Metamorphosis of the "Fritzes"

OK I cheated a little and looked it up, although I can still pronounce it.

http://www.retrothing.com/2011/08/soviet-wwii-propaganda-posters.html

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p.s. I really like that sort of skinny rat-faced Hitler some of those artists did...very Chuck Jones


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