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Naughtius_Maximus #921 Posted Feb 21 2014 - 23:40

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View PostTalonV, on Feb 21 2014 - 14:17, said:

Scav, China did try to invade Japan a few times during the Feudal times. Once they got stopped by a typhoon and didn't land troops. Another time I think they did land but the Japanese defeated them IIRC.

 

.....Those were the Mongols.

 

The Han Chinese themselves were content with a vassal like system.



Walter_Sobchak #922 Posted Feb 21 2014 - 23:43

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View PostTalonV, on Feb 21 2014 - 17:31, said:

I actually think the transmission was much like the Ferdi. You had to have some really small guy crawl into a tiny crawl space and work on it. I think don't quote me on it. All I know about the JagdTiger, it was a copper plated B**** to work on.


On the Jagdtiger, you could remove the plate over the driver and hull gunner and pull the transmission up through there, but you had to remove the gun as well, since it could not be traversed out of the way.  So yeah, not much fun to work on. 



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View PostAbacab81, on Feb 21 2014 - 17:21, said:


This is what inspired the WWII "kamikaze" or "divine wind" tactics, or at least gave it its name. . History tells of an invasion of Japan being stopped by a typhoon, as you mentioned, or, as the Japanese saw it, a "divine wind" that delivered them from their invaders. 

Twice. Two times the Mongols tried to invade with a force that would easily overwhelm Japan, and both times they got completely wrecked by unusually timed and located typhoons.



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View PostScaevola, on Feb 21 2014 - 17:40, said:

 

.....Those were the Mongols.

 

The Han Chinese themselves were content with a vassal like system.

Mongols, Han dynasty. ALL FROM CHINA!  :trollface:



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View PostWalter_Sobchak, on Feb 21 2014 - 17:43, said:


On the Jagdtiger, you could remove the plate over the driver and hull gunner and pull the transmission up through there, but you had to remove the gun as well, since it could not be traversed out of the way.  So yeah, not much fun to work on. 

Oh... See I don't know that much about how much they were designed, but holy crap, remove the plate and remove the gun? What idiot thought up that grand idea?



Dominatus #926 Posted Feb 22 2014 - 00:02

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Removing the plate's not a bad idea. Removing the gun, well, that's what happens when you design a tank like it.

BeingBadNotBeingGood #927 Posted Feb 22 2014 - 01:48

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View PostTalonV, on Feb 21 2014 - 16:58, said:

Mongols, Han dynasty. ALL FROM CHINA!  :trollface:

Han Dynasty lasted between 200BC to 200 AD. The Han ethnic group is named after the Han Dynasty.



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View Postxiantom, on Feb 21 2014 - 19:48, said:

Han Dynasty lasted between 200BC to 200 AD. The Han ethnic group is named after the Han Dynasty.

I know what the Han Dynasty is thanks.  I did pay attention in world history.  IIRC the tale of the 3 kingdoms comes from the formation of the Han Dynasty.



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View PostTalonV, on Feb 22 2014 - 03:38, said:

I know what the Han Dynasty is thanks.  I did pay attention in world history.  IIRC the tale of the 3 kingdoms comes from the formation of the Han Dynasty.


No the 3 Kingdom Period came after the fall of the Eastern (second half) of the Han Dynasty, and eventually led to the rise of the Jin Dynasty.



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View PostStoneSlinger, on Feb 21 2014 - 14:47, said:

View PostAbacab81, on Feb 21 2014 - 17:21, said:


This is what inspired the WWII "kamikaze" or "divine wind" tactics, or at least gave it its name. . History tells of an invasion of Japan being stopped by a typhoon, as you mentioned, or, as the Japanese saw it, a "divine wind" that delivered them from their invaders. 

Twice. Two times the Mongols tried to invade with a force that would easily overwhelm Japan, and both times they got completely wrecked by unusually timed and located typhoons.

 

As an interesting side story here, the US Navy sailed through two major Typoons on the way to their Victory over Japan.

 

The first was just after we invaded the Philippines, and several destroyers sank, aircraft broke loose on Carriers and caused several major fires and it cost the fleet Millions of dollars in damage.

 

The second was later, after or during Okinawa, and the fleet didn’t lose any ships, but several took bad damage. The Iowa rolled enough to expose a prop, and damaged bearings on a shaft that sent her back to the States for an overhaul, and the Hornet had her flight deck bent down around her bow, and I think it was this one that the USS Pittsburg lost her bow.  It was last later recovered and reattached.

 

I believe the first Typhoon was Cobra, the second Connie. There was another big one, Louise shortly after the war.

 

It’s kinda funny, even mother nature couldn’t save Japan, though she gave the US Navy a bloody nose and made Halsey look a little dumb. 

 

 



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View PostAcherona, on Feb 21 2014 - 21:42, said:


No the 3 Kingdom Period came after the fall of the Eastern (second half) of the Han Dynasty, and eventually led to the rise of the Jin Dynasty.

Thought it led to the Han dynasty?  Meh don't know everything, you're probably right. My forte lies more around the Napoleonic wars and the American Civil war.



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View PostTalonV, on Feb 21 2014 - 17:58, said:

Oh... See I don't know that much about how much they were designed, but holy crap, remove the plate and remove the gun? What idiot thought up that grand idea?


Its all part of the Germans weird insistence of putting the transmission in the front of the vehicle.  Everyone else had figured out by 1944 or earlier that rear mounted transmissions were the way to go. 



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View PostWalter_Sobchak, on Feb 21 2014 - 22:16, said:


Its all part of the Germans weird insistence of putting the transmission in the front of the vehicle.  Everyone else had figured out by 1944 or earlier that rear mounted transmissions were the way to go. 

Quite true. 



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View PostTalonV, on Feb 21 2014 - 20:38, said:

I know what the Han Dynasty is thanks.  I did pay attention in world history.  IIRC the tale of the 3 kingdoms comes from the formation of the Han Dynasty.

I was explaining what Han Chinese is. Has almost nothing to do with Han dynasty except name.

View PostTalonV, on Feb 21 2014 - 20:47, said:

Thought it led to the Han dynasty?  Meh don't know everything, you're probably right. My forte lies more around the Napoleonic wars and the American Civil war.

Qin Dynasty, which reunited the country after about 800 years of small feudal lords fighting each other.



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View Postxiantom, on Feb 21 2014 - 22:29, said:

I was explaining what Han Chinese is. Has almost nothing to do with Han dynasty except name.

Qin Dynasty, which reunited the country after about 800 years of small feudal lords fighting each other.

Meh, always get my dynasties mixed up.  Been a while since I studied ancient chinese history. 



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Here's my Top Five German Tanks of World War 2:

 

1 - The Han Dynasty

2 - A ship's bow that fell off

3 - 3 Kingdoms, no wait, maybe this should be number 1, no maybe I'll just go with the Qin Dynasty

4 - A Japanese typhoon

5 - The Holocaust



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My top 5 German tanks

 

5) 99 Luftballons by Nena

4) Looking for Freedom by David Hasselhoff

3) Wind of Change by The Scorpions

2) Falling in Love Again by Marlene Deitrich

1) Du Hast by Rammstein



cashdash #938 Posted Feb 22 2014 - 05:50

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:facepalm:

iceofaus #939 Posted Feb 22 2014 - 05:56

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Did i mention i was having trouble with the 128mm on my Ferdinand?...hahahahahahahaha.

Walter_Sobchak #940 Posted Feb 22 2014 - 06:02

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View PostDonward, on Feb 21 2014 - 23:33, said:

My top 5 German tanks

 

5) 99 Luftballons by Nena

4) Looking for Freedom by David Hasselhoff

3) Wind of Change by The Scorpions

2) Falling in Love Again by Marlene Deitrich

1) Du Hast by Rammstein


What? No Klaus Nomi?

 







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