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MCBAIN4EVER #61 Posted Feb 11 2014 - 03:37

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IS-6 has a HUGE problem...his turret.

 

A few weeks ago i was trying to shot him in the tracks from the side with my KV-3(he dont has the ammorack like the IS-3, the shots never penetrated in that place i dont know why) and failed very hard only tracking him BUT in other match i killed him only shoting his turret in a facehug without missing a shot.

 

From that game i didnt consider a IS-6 like a thread anymore.



hutchy52 #62 Posted Feb 11 2014 - 03:49

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I would take the IS6, Type 59 or FCM over the T34 anyday and no doubt a bad player would do better in a T34 over an IS6 as they wouldn't need to aim as much.

For a good player, although they would do well in both, they would carry harder in the IS6.



Billy_The_Butcher #63 Posted Feb 11 2014 - 03:53

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View PostTwixOps, on Feb 10 2014 - 18:32, said:

I am sorry, but you are wrong on two counts...

 

First,  the T34 is unarguably, inexcusably, unequivocally the best premium vehicle available today.  Anyone who says otherwise is either a liar or partaking of some hallucinogenic drug.  

 

Second, two battles is not an adequate sample size.  Fifty or more is my rule...that usually gets rid of any unusual trends.  

This guy is right 2 battles ????? give me a break



alex08060 #64 Posted Feb 11 2014 - 04:04

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I don't think the IS 6 is the best premium tank for one thing I actually use the 112 and go against a purple player driving a IS 6 and won because I wiggle so he can't hit my turret hatch and hid the LFP. Poor guy can't even pen me with gold shells while my heat shells have no problem penning his turret and can't even face hug me because my teammates will shoot him so I killed him in the end. Still IS 6 is more noob friendly and can handle tier 8 and below tanks.

 

 



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View Postgoff, on Feb 11 2014 - 03:04, said:

I don't think the IS 6 is the best premium tank for one thing I actually use the 112 and go against a purple player driving a IS 6 and won because I wiggle so he can't hit my turret hatch and hid the LFP. Poor guy can't even pen me with gold shells while my heat shells have no problem penning his turret and can't even face hug me because my teammates will shoot him so I killed him in the end. Still IS 6 is more noob friendly and can handle tier 8 and below tanks.

 

 

IS-6 is better than the 112, better DPM, more mobile.



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View Postroslanking1, on Feb 10 2014 - 20:03, said:

IS-6 is better than the 112, better DPM, more mobile.


Actually 112 faster than the IS 6 although it has a weaker engine.



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Just check out noobmeter top 50 rankings for both tanks.. It takes a 65% win rate in the T34 to get on the board while it takes a whopping 74% win rate to get on the top 50 ( 200 battles) for the IS6 . That's a very large gap and shows just how well great players can do in that tank. 

 

 I'm not saying the T34 is bad, I'm just trying to make the point that with limited MM the IS6 is superior when it comes to contributing on a more consistent basis over a period of time/  battles. 



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View Postgoff, on Feb 10 2014 - 19:04, said:

I don't think the IS 6 is the best premium tank for one thing I actually use the 112 and go against a purple player driving a IS 6 and won because I wiggle so he can't hit my turret hatch and hid the LFP. Poor guy can't even pen me with gold shells while my heat shells have no problem penning his turret and can't even face hug me because my teammates will shoot him so I killed him in the end. Still IS 6 is more noob friendly and can handle tier 8 and below tanks.

 

I remember when you first talked about your experiences with the 112 when it released a few patches back. There were quite a few IS-6 vs 112 debates going on at that time. I recall when you described how it was taking a few battles to get the playstyle down. Looks like you've pretty much nailed it. 

 

 

View Postroslanking1, on Feb 10 2014 - 20:03, said:

IS-6 is better than the 112, better DPM, more mobile.

 

Different animals really. The IS-6 excels at reverse angling, which is how blues and purples tend to smash face with it in pub matches. The 112 can't reverse angle as well, but can farm steel walls if the LFP is covered. 

 

I've never played the 112, but I'm going to take a guess and say the bad gun depression of -6 is what causes inexperienced players to have troubles keeping it hidden more often. 



Big_Daddy_Cane #69 Posted Feb 20 2014 - 19:29

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After reading this thread, I went and bought a T34, as I figured it might work well for me. First game out, 102 000 credits.  For me, this tank is going to be a great fit. Thanks to all the guys who contributed to this, so players like me have a good info source to turn to when trying to get better at the game.

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View PostTwixOps, on Feb 10 2014 - 13:32, said:

I am sorry, but you are wrong on two counts...

 

First,  the T34 is unarguably, inexcusably, unequivocally the best premium vehicle available today.  Anyone who says otherwise is either a liar or partaking of some hallucinogenic drug.  

 

Second, two battles is not an adequate sample size.  Fifty or more is my rule...that usually gets rid of any unusual trends.  

 

I only have an SP, but consider me skeptical as hell about the idea that the T34 is the best premium tank.  IS-6 and SU-122-44 are quite possibly OP.  The IS-6 especially can almost ignore any lower tier tank it sees.



MajorRenegade #71 Posted Feb 20 2014 - 20:27

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T34 use to be a tier 9 tank..... that why it feel like it have a tier 9 gun or like a stock version of the t30. There a reason for that. Main reason why t34 still see tier 10 matchs

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View Postcaramel, on Feb 10 2014 - 13:28, said:

Honestly, once my job kicks back up, I'll be going with the T34 personally, I like its gun, its armor fits my general play style, and I'm very heavy in the "American" tree, so it just fits me better. Their is no "best" premium tank, only which one best suits "you".

 

You're wrong.



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"But in my T34 i can just click on stuff and do damage." 

 

lawl.  In general, IS6 is far superior.  Unless the IS6 has to charge at a hull down T34, rip.  But how often does that happen?  People Gud@tonks will play any tank to its strengths and try to negate its weaknesses.  The strengths to weaknesses ratio of the IS6 is much higher than that of the T34.

 

If your "playstyle" is to camp in a hull-down spot all game, then you suck.



teamoldmill #74 Posted Feb 20 2014 - 20:31

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My most played tank is probably my E-25 lately. I almost cannot touch IS-6s, even with premium rounds, and they are all over. They make me has a sad. The armor is just incredibly trollistic. At least a Lowe, or T-34 I can get beside and mess em up.

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View Postteamoldmill, on Feb 20 2014 - 14:31, said:

My most played tank is probably my E-25 lately. I almost cannot touch IS-6s, even with premium rounds, and they are all over. They make me has a sad. The armor is just incredibly trollistic. At least a Lowe, or T-34 I can get beside and mess em up.

 

Which is exactly why I say that the thing can almost ignore any lower-tier tank.  The same problem as with the Type 59, except worse, by far, because even the sides are incredibly armored.

 

Imagine if the Jumbo were given a 10 kph boost and the 76mm gun's alpha were increased to 200 or so without any corresponding nerfs...and it was given limited MM that never saw Tier 8, plus it was made into a premium tank that could afford to spam 76mm gold.  That's basically what we have with the IS-6: a tank that can quasi-ignore all lower tier tanks while still having enough alpha to be relevant to tanks a tier above, can afford to spam gold to get the pen to hurt tanks a tier above, enough mobility that lower tier tanks often can't flee (although not as bad as the Type in that regard) and which never sees tanks two tiers above.

 

It's just a bit much.  Yes, they can be dealt with, and yes, the mobility is good but not game-breaking...but still, it's a bit much.  A small nerf wouldn't be uncalled for with the IS-6.



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View PostFlorbFnarb, on Feb 20 2014 - 11:45, said:

 

Which is exactly why I say that the thing can almost ignore any lower-tier tank.  The same problem as with the Type 59, except worse, by far, because even the sides are incredibly armored.

 

Imagine if the Jumbo were given a 10 kph boost and the 76mm gun's alpha were increased to 200 or so without any corresponding nerfs...and it was given limited MM that never saw Tier 8, plus it was made into a premium tank that could afford to spam 76mm gold.  That's basically what we have with the IS-6: a tank that can quasi-ignore all lower tier tanks while still having enough alpha to be relevant to tanks a tier above, can afford to spam gold to get the pen to hurt tanks a tier above, enough mobility that lower tier tanks often can't flee (although not as bad as the Type in that regard) and which never sees tanks two tiers above.

 

It's just a bit much.  Yes, they can be dealt with, and yes, the mobility is good but not game-breaking...but still, it's a bit much.  A small nerf wouldn't be uncalled for with the IS-6.

Ignore him WG, the IS6 is just fine as is. It's my go to my happy place tank :) 



Kosaro #77 Posted Apr 08 2014 - 00:27

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This seems like a good place for this question.

 

I'm currently very deep in the russian tree, and need a tank for moneymaking

 

Stats show that other tier 8s are more profitable, but I really like the playstyle of the IS line and although I could learn I am unfamiliar with the playstyle of other countries.

 

To the people who own one, does it get the job (credit grinding) done, and is it overall worth the gold?

Should I get it over the other premiums?


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Halak_41 #78 Posted Apr 08 2014 - 00:40

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Currently at 48 battles on my IS-6 (bought it last night), solo rocking 75% win rate and 1148 EXP average, [edited]love it! Doubt it'll stay that high after 1000+ battles.

Astro_X #79 Posted Apr 08 2014 - 03:43

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I just got the IS-6 and actually love it.    While it's rounds don't always pen, it's been doing well for me.   If I see a tier nine facing me and there is plenty of support, I will try to hunt a new position if possible.   But the 75-100k coin per battle is nice.    I never use gold in this tank and probably won't.   

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View PostKosaro, on Apr 08 2014 - 01:27, said:

This seems like a good place for this question.

 

I'm currently very deep in the russian tree, and need a tank for moneymaking

 

Stats show that other tier 8s are more profitable, but I really like the playstyle of the IS line and although I could learn I am unfamiliar with the playstyle of other countries.

 

To the people who own one, does it get the job (credit grinding) done, and is it overall worth the gold?

Should I get it over the other premiums?

You should get an IS-6. It is not just a good moneymaker, but I consider it also the best tier 8 premium out there right now (unless you have a type 59 of course...). They fact you are deep in russian tree makes it even better for you, although it has a pretty small crew so you won't be able to train your KV line of crews all at the same time. A platoon of IS-6s can just faceroll people with that DPM and troll armor where other premiums can't. 







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