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Kazuko_Nakamura #1 Posted Mar 08 2014 - 02:19

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Okay so I bought my VK 30.01 (H) today and quickly realized that it has a crap ton of different guns!

And I was wondering if you guys could tell me the right gun to choice?



Fritz_Fried #2 Posted Mar 08 2014 - 02:22

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The waffle. Best pen. ROF of 12 is slightly more than the 7.5/L70 and does the same alpha.

 

 



blueribbon #3 Posted Mar 08 2014 - 02:29

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^Agreed. The waffe has the most penetration out of all tier 5 heavies, and it's very accurate, making it a good sniper gun. You can also use the 105 howitzer if you like derping stuff.

Aldershot_II #4 Posted Mar 08 2014 - 02:30

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Every tank has it's weak points and they are in the Tier ladder to make the grind at times painful. I'm with the same tank myself, so try and angle your armour to your enemy, not much else to say, top gun is the best.

mongoosejake #5 Posted Mar 08 2014 - 02:31

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While you might be tempted by the 10.5 howitzer, don't do it! The Vk30.01h has poor hull armor and very mediocre to poor mobility (I loved it when it was a tier 6 medium), and really has to rely on the Waffe's great accuracy, penetration, and good rate of fire to bring enemies down. 

 

It's a classic German sniper, use it as such.



Anlushac11 #6 Posted Mar 08 2014 - 07:26

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I have experimented with three guns and both turrets on this tank.

 

50mm L/60 has excellent rate of fire but you need to use gold and its all but useless against tier 7's

 

The 75mm L/43 has good rate of fire and you can use the lighter first turret which gives better mobility. Downside is poor armor on turret and 75mm L/43's mediocre penetration against tier 7's

 

The 75mm L/70 gun at tier 5 its pretty powerful, has good rate of fire and good penetration. Rate of fire and accuracy is slightly less than the Waffe 0725 Konisch.

 

Last but not least is the 0725 Waffe 7.5cm/5.5cm. This used to be known as the Konisch gun. It is a squeeze bore gun using the Gerlich principle to "squeeze" a 75mm round down to 55mm by time it leaves barrel (Depending on source, some say 50mm some say 55mm) The gun was known for excellent muzzle velocity and excellent penetration even out to 2000m. Problem was the projectiles relied on Tungsten to work and Tungsten was in very short supply for Germany so it was cancelled.

 

The Konisch has better rate of fire and penetration than the 75mm L/70 so its my preferred weapon. Since VK3001/3601 like to burn when hit I have wet ammo storage, gun rammer, and fire extinguisher. Fire fighting skill is good to have on German heavy tank crews as the front transmission is counted as a engine hiut and can cause tank to catch fire.

 


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littlewebber #7 Posted Mar 08 2014 - 18:29

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Ive been using this as my primary grind for the e50 event and ran the waffe for the first 50 or 60 battles and liked it quite a bit but it was missing the alpha to handle all the kv1, bdrs, and whatever other large hp tanks it faces so I switched to the 105 which I am very familar with from the pz4 and hetzer. Loaded HE and havent looked back. The reload is only about 1second or so longer and even if you dont pen it does equal damage to the waffe gun. It stops lights and mediums in there tracks and always does damage to tier 7s which I know ive upset quite a few with it. I used to use heat rounds before the nerf but now I only keep a few as just in case. Try both and see which suits you but all I know is I went from 500ish xp games to 700ish games immediately. Now that I got the free premium im pumping out 1100 to 1300 xp games quite a bit.

Ubiquinate #8 Posted Mar 09 2014 - 00:04

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Definitely want to run the Waffe (Konisch), the penetration will save your hide in tier 6 and 7 matches.

It makes the tank play tier for tier nearly the same as the Tiger I.



FireKiller87 #9 Posted Mar 09 2014 - 06:48

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The Waffe gun is generally the superior choice. 135 alpha is fairly good at tier 5, and the 157mm AP penetration is THE BEST among all tier 5 heavy tanks. You should have no problem penetrating even some tier 7 from the front.

The L/28 howitzer is an option; I used it on my Panther during my stock grind and was somewhat successful with it, but then again, the 3001H has none of the mobility or agility that the Panther does. The problem with the howitzer boils down to the fact that the 3001H simply cannot maneuver around to a poorly-armored flank, where the howitzer can penetrate for full damage. Instead, you're often forced to attack frontally, where your HE will be doing about 100-150 damage per hit. HEAT is a viable option, but is expensive and lacks penetration even compared to the 7,5cm L/48.



littlewebber #10 Posted Mar 09 2014 - 11:50

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you are right about the 100-150 on the front with HE but thats on heavies, and is the same alpha as the waffe but with added module damage. If used on the front of mediums and lights it 1 shots almost every time.

FireKiller87 #11 Posted Mar 09 2014 - 21:25

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View Postabramsrule20122, on Mar 09 2014 - 06:50, said:

you are right about the 100-150 on the front with HE but thats on heavies, and is the same alpha as the waffe but with added module damage. If used on the front of mediums and lights it 1 shots almost every time.

 

You're also lacking DPM, though. And I typically fail to oneshot most tier 5 mediums with HE from the front in my Pz. IV, but I'm usually shooting from far away and I have the mobility to retreat for the reload if I need to. The 3001H lacks that flexibility for the most part unless you're using solid cover.



littlewebber #12 Posted Mar 09 2014 - 22:27

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Solid cover is very helpful with it but its so short of a tank and the center turret makes it weak for sidescraping. Its gun does have a decent depression capability which comes.in helpful. I also have to deal with massive lag where im at for another month or so which makes playing peek a boo dangerous as most times I keep driving out so the 105 helps my situation as far not needing to poke a second time. When I get back to my 20 to 30 ms ping vs. 400 to 500 with constant flashing connection light ill give the waffe another run if I keep the tank after the event.

FireKiller87 #13 Posted Mar 10 2014 - 16:15

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View Postabramsrule20122, on Mar 09 2014 - 17:27, said:

Solid cover is very helpful with it but its so short of a tank and the center turret makes it weak for sidescraping. Its gun does have a decent depression capability which comes.in helpful. I also have to deal with massive lag where im at for another month or so which makes playing peek a boo dangerous as most times I keep driving out so the 105 helps my situation as far not needing to poke a second time. When I get back to my 20 to 30 ms ping vs. 400 to 500 with constant flashing connection light ill give the waffe another run if I keep the tank after the event.

 

Ironically, you'd be peek-a-booing more with the 10,5cm than with the 7,5cm/5,5cm Waffe, where the primary tactic would likely be sitting in a bush with solid cover nearby, shooting at targets. 



littlewebber #14 Posted Mar 10 2014 - 19:00

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I actually try the bush thing too. My tactics vary on map, tiering, how many bads, and mood. I made ace tanker on a defeat with the 105 which shows it has enough potential for the tank if handled properly. Oddly enough whenever ive met up against other vks with waffe the 105 comes out alive with roughly 2 to 300 hp left give or take the random fire or non pen. 105 isnt for everyone but trapping someone on the corner of a building where they cant shoot you but you can perma track them and do around 100 to 200 damage each shot is satisfying in a cheap jerkish sort of way.

Sabre_Six #15 Posted Mar 10 2014 - 19:19

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i just finished w/ it. tried out the 105,did ok,but i really started climing after the waffe. dont be caught in the open even at top tier(rare for me) and try not to spearhead either. do NOT go un angled at anyone. she likes to burn when hit.





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