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Potoroo #21 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 09:09

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From today's Best Quotes By A General file.

 

A supply run to Tobruk contained not just the usual rations and munitions but also some Australian newspapers.  The siege of Tobruk was front page news and one headline read in large, bold type, "We can take it!"

 

Morshead saw it and threw the newspaper down in disgust.  "We're not here to take it," he told his officers "We're here to dish it out!"



Auslander #22 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 09:13

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Great battle for tanks. Should be good.

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Kaidon_Thel93 #23 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 09:17

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how i feel as an Aussie, after seeing this and hearing of the Tobruk HB planned:

:medal::great:

 

Im so happy :D

 

 



carbonator08 #24 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 09:52

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View PostM1A1_Abrams_RAAC, on Apr 26 2014 - 1226 2014 - 12:30, said:

Great article as always.

 

I've been trying to look for a detailed article on Tobruk for a while and you hit the nail on the head. I didn't even know that most the siege was under Australian command. 

 

It was a good ANZAC Day this year with the 99th anniversary of Gallipoli. 

 

Liked the comment on Australian discipline, made me proud.

 

 

'What we have, we hold’

MOTTO OF AUSTRALIA’S 2/17TH BATTALION

 

If your looking for an excellent historical discussion to the siege you have got to read this one.

 

 

'In the tradition of his bestselling KOKODA, Peter FitzSimons, Australia’s most beloved popular historian, returns in this deluxe illustrated edition to one of the seminal moments in Australian history: the Battle of Tobruk in 1941, in which more than 15 000 Australian troops - backed by British artillery - fought in excruciating desert heat through eight long months, against Adolf Hitler’s formidable Afrika Korps.'

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Josh_of_Aus #25 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 09:54

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this makes me proud, Lest we Forget

Ripgutz #26 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 10:06

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As an Aussie ANZAC day means so much.... Its a fight for the underdog and not excepting defeat no matter the cost, which all Aussie's understand too well. This time of yeah we Aussie's stand tall and proud and rally together as a nation to honor all the fallen soldiers of all the conflicts we have been involved in. Sometimes you just need to do what's right and except the consequences. ANZAC's we salute you!!!   

LYinKansas #27 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 12:07

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Have any of you guys seen the Ukrainian flags being held upside down for ANZAC day? What does this mean for War Gaming and for American players?

SourKraut13 #28 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 12:23

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So that means that the captured Italian Carro Armato M13/40 tanks will be in game soon?

 

Real one I took a picture of at Aberdeen Proving Grounds.

 

Australian Captured ones (M11/39) had the kangaroo painted on their sides so that the allies would Not shoot them. (correction)

 


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Capt_Oliver #29 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 12:39

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Great article.

 

Minor quibble... Freyburg...

 

actually Freyberg

 

Full title

Lieutenant General Bernard Cyril Freyberg, 1st Baron Freyberg VC, GCMG, KCB, KBE, DSO & Three Bars, KStJ

 

My Grandfather served under him in 2NZEF.

 



Tanker7 #30 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 13:35

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Thank you for the article. It was appreciated on an important day for Australians and our friends in New Zealand and the Pacific Islands.

 

Tobruk 1941: British Matilda tanks move forward at Tobruk

http://www.iwm.org.uk/ - Public Domain


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SoukouDragon #31 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 14:09

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Excellent article, thank you!

Anchobi #32 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 14:56

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 Figures like these reinforce the perception that the Italians neither were particularly good at fighting, nor were they particularly well motivated to do so. But they often substituted courage for tactics, and just as often, surrendered after putting up a brisk, but short resistance.

 

:sad:



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Enjoy reading this history.  Keep up the great work.

6thGuardArmy #34 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 15:41

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The South African forces kicked Italy out of East Africa. Well done Australia, we defended a siege of Tobruk as well. The 2nd South African division led by General Klopper. Didn't end well for the Allies though :(

Potoroo #35 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 16:00

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View PostSourKraut13, on Apr 26 2014 - 21:23, said:

Australian Captured ones (M11/39) had the kangaroo painted on their sides so that the allies would shot them

 

 

Our allies didn't hate us that much.



Jiggster1961 #36 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 18:26

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Brilliant... One of the best synopsis of Tobruk I have ever read.  My daughter-in-law is an Aussie and it always strikes me how profoundly proud Australians are of their veterans.   Australian youngsters are made very aware, early on, just how much is owed to their Veterans.  Thank you for a terrific read. 

Cheers,

Jiggs



A_UselessReptile #37 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 18:27

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We celebrate ANZAC day in our AP gov't class because our teacher formerly taught in Aus. and Indonesia. 

 

So you could imagine why its a big deal for him xD.

 

Great article and to all the Australian and NZ veterans thank you for your contributions!

 



WalkerSteele #38 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 19:42

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VariaVespasa #39 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 22:11

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View PostRed_Ensign, on Apr 26 2014 - 05:17, said:

I used to have the table-top wargame 'tobruk' (avalon hill) years ago, and it's basically what led me to this game.  that and steel panthers.

 

can't wait for historical desert battles here (though the maps would probably have to be bigger to do it justice).

I still have Tobruk.  Never played it much though due to lack of people to play with and a preference for Squad Leader.  I did learn (if in fact their charts bear any resemblance to reality...) that there can be such a thing as too much power- While most guns would have the usual effect or lack of effect that you would expect, the german 88's so badly overmatched the armor of their targets they could go right through it without damaging anything, where a lesser shell would destroy the target.  :P  The odds of a clean through and through were not that high (usually a crewman or two would be injured/killed), but the chances were more than negligible.  



wallut_warrior #40 Posted Apr 26 2014 - 22:23

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View PostStrilight, on Apr 26 2014 - 01:30, said:

Ah, Australians.

Wort did yous call us orstralians?

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