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F34rmen00bz #21 Posted Apr 28 2011 - 01:30

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There is a thread on the Russian forums full of stats and judging from raw win/loss ratio, the VK 3601 (H) is the best tier 6 med, with the Easy 8 coming in second

Keifomofutu #22 Posted Apr 28 2011 - 01:45

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Well the t-34-85 is a fragile thing. But probably has the best overall gun. And unlike the easy 8 you won't have to worry about not being able to penetrate your enemies. The 100mm cannon is awesome for a tier 6 medium.  With a fully upgraded crew the t-34-85 is really fast too.

Hunt3rj2 #23 Posted Apr 28 2011 - 21:16

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View PostKophka, on Apr 28 2011 - 00:59, said:

Wait wait wait. People are saying that non-Soviet tanks are the best? But... but... I thought the "Dev Conspiracy" had that all covered. Noooooo!!!!!  :D

Seriously though, I can't wait to get my hands on the VK3001P, I hear it is a seriously bad-ass brawler for it's tier.  :Smile_great:
You are... sorely mistaken...

Prepare for unforeseen consequences...

aedn #24 Posted Apr 29 2011 - 00:07

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just play the t34-85, it has the best gun in its tier, and does well enough for a medium, its not as good a sniper as the 3601 but the 3601 is a dead end unless you want to go german heavy tree.

3001p was a bad tank for me, played like a weaker version of the easy 8. If you want mobility you can take the easy 8 or 3001P, but be prepared to die alot, you wont bounce shots from equal tier tanks, and most t5s can easily penetrate your armor.

If your final goal is to get a pure sniper tank, then go with the 3001 P as the panther 2 excels at this role.

Greneral_Maow #25 Posted Apr 29 2011 - 00:43

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View PostHunt3rj2, on Apr 28 2011 - 21:16, said:

You are... sorely mistaken...

Prepare for unforeseen consequences...
Maybe hes thinking of the 3001(H)?

Jaynen #26 Posted Apr 29 2011 - 01:16

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I'd say 3601h is best because its a mini heavy, but the easy 8 is a lot of fun and a solid tank

brojones #27 Posted Apr 29 2011 - 01:31

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While the Easy 8 is excellent, you do not often see really good E8 players. These tanks are usually among the first to get blown up because of inexperienced drivers who charge to the front lines. Even a small mistake can be fatal for this tank.

The VK3601H tends to have a bigger presence on the battlefield because it is easier to play and is pretty much a heavy tank. This tank is particularly invincible to low tiers, much like the KV-3, and can take a few hits even from tier 7s. I'd say the VK3601H is the best because of its survivability.

Enduring_Hope #28 Posted Apr 29 2011 - 06:51

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VK3601H has the best armor and a good gun.

T-34/85 has the best gun, good mobility and barely adequate armor.

Sherman E8 is like a barn on tracks that is made of paper -- oh and it can also throw snowballs at the enemy.

VK3001H has no armor but gets a good gun (same as the VK3601H).

VK3001P I can't comment on (yet), but it's quite rare to find someone who doesn't hate it with the passion of a thousand suns.

Darth_Enderis #29 Posted Apr 29 2011 - 07:24

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3601 is the best with the following setup in my opinion:

75mm Koniche - APCR shells
stock turret (90 life for half the traverse and only 10mm armor, no ty)
last engine upgrade, last radio, last suspension

With modules for Rammer, Vents, 3rd is a freebie but I take optics. You can brawl in it like this, or be a tank hunter. This my my favorite tier 6.
With the 88mm short, it's an effective medium range sniper.


T-34/85
I agree with the above stated "the 34-85 is fragile" it is. I hated the 85mm and 100mm on it. Overall disappointed here, because the T-34/57 was ferocious. I expected better, but I digress.

Easy 8 Sherman

I have only played other variants but I have fought many of these, and they are tough little tanks. Last gun on this thing with a rammer and vents and it can flank and shank like nobody's business. Under rated in my book.

VK 3001 P

This tank is god awful stock, but alas many are if not all. It's a glass cannon if you enjoy sniping. I don't recommend this tank.

METAL666nz #30 Posted Apr 29 2011 - 07:30

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i love my easy8 but you really have to take a couple others with you. I find it works great if you can take a vk or 2 with you anywhere on the map as they can lay down the heavy hits, and take some. Also had great success teaming up with a M6. Think vk is best overall, russians have nasty guns and the easy8 is a machine gun on tracks, you can own if you dont get stopped

NTRabbit #31 Posted Apr 29 2011 - 14:20

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The only tier 6 medium I didn't drive in beta was the 3601(H), so out of the 3001(H), 3001(P), T-34-85 and M4A3E8, I have to say that my answer is...

...none of them.

I found the Easy Eight to be terribly undergunned.
I found the 3001(P) to be really poor at everything a medium should be until I had researched and fitted every piece of equipment, and even then it was fragile.
I found the T-34-85 to be much poorer at bouncing shots than the sloped armour would have you believe, and despite having the best gun for the tier in the 100mm D10T in terms of damage I found the accuracy sorely lacking, and the tank itself sluggish.
I found the 3001(H) to be my favourite medium tank in the tier - it was genuinely fast and agile enough to be a medium brawler, but the only gun good for brawling (L/56) required the turret that didn't turn fast enough for brawling, the armour was too weak in the sides to brawl, and far too weak in the front to use as a sniper with the L/70

All in all, for medium tanks tier 6 is a nothing tier. While Tier 5 gives you the great Panzer IV as a multirole and M7 6 pounder as an outrageous autocannon scout, and tier 7 gives you the best bouncing sloped frontal armour short of the IS-4 and T-54 in the 3002(DB) and the fantastic 90mm armed T20, the tier 6 mediums are neither here nor there - none of them are really good enough at anything the matchmaker wants to give them.

Tupinambis #32 Posted Apr 29 2011 - 18:31

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View PostF34rmen00bz, on Apr 27 2011 - 23:48, said:

Easy is military code for 'E'

Plus saying Easy 8 is easier than saying M4A3E8

I also heard that they called it the "easy eight" because the suspension system in that model was improved and provided for a much smoother, easier ride. I haven't confirmed that though.

spagnitz123 #33 Posted Apr 29 2011 - 22:03

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VK 3601 as stated above

Ogopogo #34 Posted Apr 30 2011 - 02:04

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Easy 8 takes the cake with the early vertical stabilizer, without, it is closer to 3601 with the easy 8 a close second.

Will_of_Iron #35 Posted Apr 30 2011 - 02:15

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t34-85

VK 3601

sherman

take your pick

LarduZ #36 Posted Apr 30 2011 - 02:19

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I really liked the Vk36001 in Closed/open beta very fun tank to play IMO

Mow_Mow #37 Posted Apr 30 2011 - 08:38

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VK3601H and E8 Sherman are the most enjoyable tier 6 medium tanks IMO. Both require a certain amount of finesse and that one must know their role - outside their roles their rough spots really show. The T-34-85 is more of a all rounder compared to either one, but won't particularly excel in most roles.

Personally, I think the VK3001H is trash. It's very fast, but doesn't deal enough damage with the stock turret, and the upgraded turret slows the tank down yet the 50/30/50 armor isn't enough at that tier and that armament.

KurenFM #38 Posted Apr 30 2011 - 11:37

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E8 Sherman gets Vertical Stabilizer. That alone makes it full of win. And tiger blood.

Yamaxanadu #39 Posted Apr 30 2011 - 12:02

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Easy 8 and VK3601 (H)!