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Xlucine #121 Posted Aug 18 2014 - 21:15

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Jul 19 2014 - 13:26, said:

Dad, go to 2:02 in this video. It will take some pretty reasonable citations to counter a chap of his credibility. http://youtu.be/XXH02YX7gxY

View PostDad_is_bad, on Aug 18 2014 - 08:42, said:

Seen and yes it too is garbage .

 

 

Things I never expected to see on the forums #7390: Wehraboo claiming Doyle is garbage. Seriously, am I seeing things or did this really just happen? Honestly, I actually burst out laughing IRL

 



FISSION_CURES_ANIME #122 Posted Aug 18 2014 - 23:20

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View PostDad_is_bad, on Aug 18 2014 - 02:42, said:

Seen and yes it too is garbage .

By the end of this decade the WIKI and it's idiotic followers will have rewritten all of WW2.

Those who actually feared the Tiger 1 had obviously not read the WIKI roflstomped.

 

Wikipedia vs. Doyle: Ultimate Battle of Ultimate Destiny

 

(see also: Mother of All Battles)

 

 


Edited by LostCosmonaut, Aug 18 2014 - 23:21.


Meplat #123 Posted Aug 18 2014 - 23:51

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Next up-

"Any book which conflicts with my convoluted view, regardless of how well it's author(s) researched the material, will be considered "garbage". That is all."

 

-Diktat issued by unterstuffhurler Dadistverrucht on 18AUG2014



Walter_Sobchak #124 Posted Aug 19 2014 - 01:24

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View PostDad_is_bad, on Aug 18 2014 - 03:42, said:

Seen and yes it too is garbage .

By the end of this decade the WIKI and it's idiotic followers will have rewritten all of WW2.

Those who actually feared the Tiger 1 had obviously not read the WIKI roflstomped.

 

I don't even know where to begin...



Mechanize #125 Posted Aug 19 2014 - 01:43

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View PostDad_is_bad, on Aug 18 2014 - 01:42, said:

Seen and yes it too is garbage .

By the end of this decade the WIKI and it's idiotic followers will have rewritten all of WW2.

Those who actually feared the Tiger 1 had obviously not read the WIKI roflstomped.

 

 

Jesus christ, if saying completely idiotic, baseless things was a crime, you would've earned yourself several death sentences in this thread alone.

 

Great job, now do everyone a favor and stop pretending you know anything about WWII history ever again.



Daigensui #126 Posted Aug 19 2014 - 02:15

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View PostLegiondude, on Jul 19 2014 - 02:23, said:

Dai did, all she had to say about them was how terrible they were at completing their objective

 

You gotta give more proof than just saying "I read it somewhere"

 

More like the Waffen-SS took a lot of casualties for the actual results they had. The only time they actually managed to do as much as (and better than) the Heer would be Kursk. Otherwise, they were insanely wasteful in achieving massive casualties for the things they actually did.



Zinegata #127 Posted Aug 19 2014 - 03:33

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It is very hard to take the SS Panzer Corps seriously when it loses 12,000 men to attacking surrounded Soviet troops in Kharkov while a unit with such an uninspiring name as "11th Panzer Division" solo'd an entire Soviet Tank Army.

EnsignExpendable #128 Posted Aug 19 2014 - 04:19

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View PostDad_is_bad, on Aug 18 2014 - 03:42, said:

Seen and yes it too is garbage .

By the end of this decade the WIKI and it's idiotic followers will have rewritten all of WW2.

Those who actually feared the Tiger 1 had obviously not read the WIKI roflstomped.

 

Due to vast amounts of historical archives being declassified, yes, more and more is known about the war with every decade. Instead of relying on incomplete memories of a guy who didn't see further out than his foxhole, we get entire operational histories of every single unit from September 1939 to August 1945 at our fingertips. Things that were just assumed or purposefully propagated for personal gain are going to be found out and demolished. This is how history works.

 

If you are expecting everyone to have figured out what happened in such a massive and prolonged event right off the bat, then you have a very poor understanding of...everything.



cashdash #129 Posted Aug 19 2014 - 07:25

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Impossible, no one could possibly be this stupid and still function in scocity.

Zinegata #130 Posted Aug 20 2014 - 02:47

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View PostEnsignExpendable, on Aug 19 2014 - 11:19, said:

 

Due to vast amounts of historical archives being declassified, yes, more and more is known about the war with every decade. Instead of relying on incomplete memories of a guy who didn't see further out than his foxhole, we get entire operational histories of every single unit from September 1939 to August 1945 at our fingertips. Things that were just assumed or purposefully propagated for personal gain are going to be found out and demolished. This is how history works.

 

If you are expecting everyone to have figured out what happened in such a massive and prolonged event right off the bat, then you have a very poor understanding of...everything.

 

You know, it's times like this that it is good to remind everyone that for something like 60 years, every American published work on Midway copy-pasted from Genda's account of the battle; making him the authoratative "Japanese POV" character for the most famous American naval victory of the war in the Pacific.

 

It was only in 2007, with the release of Shattered Sword, that an American account of Midway finally called out Genda for essentially filling his account with half truths and whole lies for personal gain - something that Japanese historians had figured out since the 70s but no American historian had bothered to check and translate until the combinedfleet guys got a hold of translated versions of the latest Japanese books on Midway.



Redwing6 #131 Posted Dec 28 2015 - 23:22

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on May 31 2014 - 17:02, said:

 

Hmm. With all our research, we never knew that such a thing existed. I wonder how we missed it and that nobody else has brought such a thing to our attention before?

M40 90V

Here's the stock turret...

 

 

and this is the upgrade:

 

 

Now, you're the expert...go find it! Seriously though, there are a half dozen images floating around of this vehicle. There must be some sort of information on it in the archives.

 


Edited by Redwing6, Dec 28 2015 - 23:23.


The_Chieftain #132 Posted Dec 29 2015 - 00:13

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View PostRedwing6, on Dec 28 2015 - 22:22, said:

 

Now, you're the expert...go find it! Seriously though, there are a half dozen images floating around of this vehicle. There must be some sort of information on it in the archives.

 

 

Surprisingly, not a whole hell of a lot, other than that there wasn't much point in making it.

 

That said, as you correctly observe, it's a well-known photo, though the hull is different to that of the M36B1 in the earlier photo you observe as stock. (The one is an M4 hull, the other an M4A3). Ergo, either we are entirely incompetent at our jobs and put the M4(90)V into the game by complete fluke, or it was an ironic comment used for humorous effect. 



TrulyGrand #133 Posted Dec 29 2015 - 07:51

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Dec 28 2015 - 15:13, said:

either we are entirely incompetent at our jobs 

 

You said it first :trollface:






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