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[The_Chieftain]

[ChumCreature]

[machocat]

Would love to watch, but it's not working

 

[Grimmy_Onland]

They still use them in Syria.

 

http://www.liveleak....=924_1403782926

[FlakValleyExpress]

I have heard story's about how lethal the ZSU's was in combat. I also heard that the manual optics for sighting was not as good as the radar. However that is based on speculation on what I have read in books and not with stories by Vets.

[stalkervision]

The American's tried to develop a similar system to this and pored a huge boat-full of money into the project and it was a abject failure. To this day we have nothing like this system.

 

 chieftain I will test your knowledge here.

 

  do you know what system this was?  

 

 

Edited by stalkervision, Jul 01 2014 - 18:21.

[Pedro9237]

I think the US had a project to put a Phalanx CIWS system onto some sort of armored platform (like a Bradley or something) but they stopped because of the improvements that were being made to surface to air missile systems like the Stinger or Javelin.

 

Love this stuff Cheiftain, keep up the great work!

Edited by Pedro9237, Jul 01 2014 - 19:00.

[stalkervision]

Pedro9237, on Jul 01 2014 - 13:41, said:

I think the US had a project to put a Phalanx CIWS system onto sort sort of armored platform (like a Bradley or something) but they stopped because of the improvements that were being made to surface to air missile systems like the Stinger or Javelin.

 

Love this stuff Cheiftan, keep up the great work!

 well, that is partially true.  :)

[Xlucine]

Which of the contenders for that requirement had the GAU-8? I forget which one that was, but that should have seen service because it was cool

[RenamedUser_1008929017]

I was in a U.S. Army aviation unit in the late 70's.  The rotorheads were told that if they got in range of a ZSU 23-4, it WOULD shoot them down.

[Pedro9237]

stalkervision, on Jul 01 2014 - 19:52, said:

 well, that is partially true.  :)

Phalanx is also pretty big, so that's  a problem too.

 

There are versions of the Bradly IFV with a vulcan cannon right? It just doesn't have radar targeting assistance?

Edited by Pedro9237, Jul 01 2014 - 19:10.

[Pedro9237]

Xlucine, on Jul 01 2014 - 19:54, said:

Which of the contenders for that requirement had the GAU-8? I forget which one that was, but that should have seen service because it was cool

Not sure if you need that kinda of penetration for AA duties. =P

[IronEagle_]

M247 Sergeant York DIVAD. Tried to use too many 1st gen products 'off the shelf' with little modification. Results, pure crap.

[The_Chieftain]

stalkervision, on Jul 01 2014 - 18:19, said:

The American's tried to develop a similar system to this and pored a huge boat-full of money into the project and it was a abject failure. To this day we have nothing like this system.

 

 chieftain I will test your knowledge here.

 

  do you know what system this was?  

 

 

 

Sergeant York. I put a photo of the interior of one which I came across in Anniston up on my Facebook feed some time ago.

[stalkervision]

The_Chieftain, on Jul 01 2014 - 15:21, said:

 

Sergeant York. I put a photo of the interior of one which I came across in Anniston up on my Facebook feed some time ago.

 

 Sargent York developed by a aviation company Anyone know which one?

 

  I'm not a face book user..

 

  The NSA loves Facebook :)

[The_Warhawk]

stalkervision, on Jul 01 2014 - 14:14, said:

 

 Sargent York developed by a aviation company Anyone know which one?

 

  I'm not a face book user..

 

  The NSA loves Facebook :)

 

Ford Aerospace headed up the project with AAI, Bofors, and Westinghouse as subcontractors

[doonglerules]

FlakValleyExpress, on Jul 01 2014 - 18:31, said:

I have heard story's about how lethal the ZSU's was in combat. I also heard that the manual optics for sighting was not as good as the radar. However that is based on speculation on what I have read in books and not with stories by Vets.

It's kinda obvious manually sighting it would be enormously difficult compared to using the radar

[The_Warhawk]

Xlucine, on Jul 01 2014 - 10:54, said:

Which of the contenders for that requirement had the GAU-8? I forget which one that was, but that should have seen service because it was cool

 

 I mean to answer this one sooner. I'm not quite familiar with a GAU-8 armed SPAAG that was supposed to be part of the requirement that the DIVAD was for. There was, however, the USAF's Air Force Mobile Weapon's System which was a concept for an M113 armed with a GAU-8 as well as Stingers. It also was supposed to use the same Ammunition handling system as the A-10. 

[ramlaen]

The M247 Sgt. York had twin 40mm Bofors, from what I have read about it one of the big reasons it failed was that its targeting radars were simply junk.

[jd60fe]

This thing went through some "in-house" mods with the Egyptians and Syrians which mounted some SA-7 IR missiles to the Gun Dish radar.  The replacement to this was the 2S6 Tunguska with 4x30mm and 4x SA-19 IR missiles and the upgraded radar.  Even newer is the Pantsir S1 with the same 4x 30mm and 4x SA-22 IR missiles.  As a helicopter guy, these things scare the living crap out of us and warrant a Tomahawk if seen.

 

All unclass by the way.

 

JD60FE