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_DK_ #41 Posted May 19 2011 - 12:09

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View Post25Spartanspearman25, on May 19 2011 - 11:58, said:

that sucks man. : / I just hope they have a change of heart and decide to change it.


Too bad the only thing the developers are interested in are making the Russian tanks better, and better, and maybe one more bit better whilst 'balancing' the German and American equivalents.

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View Postvonkrimm, on May 18 2011 - 11:55, said:

Make your feelings about the nerf made know here: http://forum.worldof...topic=38405&st=

It even has a poll!

Thread closed without any explanations. Great......................

Neogenex #43 Posted May 19 2011 - 13:26

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I have yet to play my T32. I knew this was going to screw US and once again make Russia top dog. All I know is if they dont do something about this bullcrap with them constantly nerfing Germany and USA and buffing Russia, I am just going to simply stop buying gold and just play the game standard. Why bother buying premium if the one nation I want to play it useless.

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View Postvonkrimm, on May 18 2011 - 13:00, said:

Link please.


Not ignoring you von...I am a field engineer and travel during the week. I saw remarks from Overlord (I could swear it was he) in a buried entry somewhere. If I am wrong I will post it here as I do not want to spread any false rumors.
Most appreciative for your patience :Smile_honoring:

TheSoulCollector #45 Posted May 19 2011 - 20:02

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4% nerf + shell nerf on damage now the T32 is killing nothing ,penetration is crap + the bounce of the 105 mm and u got piece of crap tank ... :( the gun is broken after 1 hit ...I dont know gona play russian line that they will not nerf ever .... Thanks Devs !!! U are grate ... FOR RUSSIANS !!!

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This is what I found on the Q/A with the devs regarding this topic:

Q: [Talking about U.S. heavy tank gun depression “nerf”.] Can you explain the point of releasing a patch on May 11while on May 12 the project’s head engineer ends up stating “we might bring it back”? Right now, for a T34 any small bump in the road (I won’t even mention an actual hill) is an occasion to proudly regard the sky through the gun sight. What’s the deep meaning of this nerf? And are we now going to have to wait another 6-8 weeks for a fix to an obvious screw up in the patch?
A: There was a point, otherwise we wouldn’t have released it. There was no deep meaning to this nerf, and we don’t count it as a nerf to begin with. If people don’t like it that much, we’ll take it out. You won’t have to wait long.

Q: Dear developers, why is it so difficult to put out a hotfix changing the depression angle for American guns? The nerf makes American tactics that you yourselves have suggested completely impossible, while as far as I can tell the hotfix isn’t that difficult to make.
A: Easy to make. Not easy to deploy.



http://forum.worldof...__1#entry551976

TheSoulCollector #47 Posted May 19 2011 - 21:40

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Yep we can take the american line and shut it up the devs ASS

TheSoulCollector #48 Posted May 19 2011 - 21:48

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9 shots at KV 5 and ....45 % damage FU** U ......What the hell I cant play like this AMERICAN LINE IS  CRAP INCLUDING THE T32 and the T29 AFTER THE NERF !!!

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View PostJOSEYWALES, on May 19 2011 - 20:52, said:

This is what I found on the Q/A with the devs regarding this topic:

Q: [Talking about U.S. heavy tank gun depression “nerf”.] Can you explain the point of releasing a patch on May 11while on May 12 the project’s head engineer ends up stating “we might bring it back”? Right now, for a T34 any small bump in the road (I won’t even mention an actual hill) is an occasion to proudly regard the sky through the gun sight. What’s the deep meaning of this nerf? And are we now going to have to wait another 6-8 weeks for a fix to an obvious screw up in the patch?
A: There was a point, otherwise we wouldn’t have released it. There was no deep meaning to this nerf, and we don’t count it as a nerf to begin with. If people don’t like it that much, we’ll take it out. You won’t have to wait long.


So if they do not count it as a nerf, what is it then? A bonus, a "feature" or a "fix"? Not sure what was meant by that.

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Wow the one advantage used for the American line is gone. Russian has power, German has armor, US has accuracy.....oh wait no......US has armor.....oh wait no.......US has speed.....oh wait no.


Wow EPIC NERF TO US HEAVIES.

Not buying prem until this is fixed, removed, or how about a buff for the US for once, which was needed way more than a nerf.

VooDooPC #51 Posted May 19 2011 - 23:22

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View PostMassdit, on May 19 2011 - 13:07, said:

Thread closed without any explanations. Great......................
It says right on there, "Creating threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest on the forums".

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View Postvirtusx, on May 19 2011 - 21:52, said:

So if they do not count it as a nerf, what is it then? A bonus, a "feature" or a "fix"? Not sure what was meant by that.

Before, if you rotated your turret 180 degrees so your gun faces backwards, if you aimed all the way down, your gun would "clip" through the back of your tank. I suppose this was supposed to address that, and therefore they didn't take into account gameplay effects, which is probably why it snuck in so late in testing.

aquabat #53 Posted May 20 2011 - 01:59

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Sorry, what nerf did the IS3 get?

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- Maximum speed forward and reverse set from 36 and 16 to 38 and 17 km/h respectively.
- Increased passability for top tracks by 5%.
- Hit points of the hull increased by 100.
- Hit points of the top turret increased by 40.

I see no nerf there.

What impressed me the most, though, was the non-nerf to the t1 while there was no nerf to the KV.

Hellgrunt #54 Posted May 20 2011 - 02:27

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I was so looking forward to moving up the US heavy line. I'm now stopping at my T29 and see no reason to spend anymore money on this game unless they fix this. Time to play for free and enjoy what i have for now.

Hypno89 #55 Posted May 20 2011 - 03:19

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I'm not spending another dime on this game I'm like wtf gives keep nerfing all American tanks.I cant hit a lowe in the front it bounces cant do damage to half the tanks i could before just stupid I think the word nazi came from the Russians cause there nazi's on this game with the nerf of all classes besides there own.

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View PostJOSEYWALES, on May 19 2011 - 20:52, said:

This is what I found on the Q/A with the devs regarding this topic:

Q: [Talking about U.S. heavy tank gun depression “nerf”.] Can you explain the point of releasing a patch on May 11while on May 12 the project’s head engineer ends up stating “we might bring it back”? Right now, for a T34 any small bump in the road (I won’t even mention an actual hill) is an occasion to proudly regard the sky through the gun sight. What’s the deep meaning of this nerf? And are we now going to have to wait another 6-8 weeks for a fix to an obvious screw up in the patch?
A: There was a point, otherwise we wouldn’t have released it. There was no deep meaning to this nerf, and we don’t count it as a nerf to begin with. If people don’t like it that much, we’ll take it out. You won’t have to wait long.

Q: Dear developers, why is it so difficult to put out a hotfix changing the depression angle for American guns? The nerf makes American tactics that you yourselves have suggested completely impossible, while as far as I can tell the hotfix isn’t that difficult to make.
A: Easy to make. Not easy to deploy.



http://forum.worldof...__1#entry551976

It's sad when you start to think the devs are trolling you.

Drive_Me_Closer #57 Posted May 20 2011 - 13:50

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View Postbaronnn, on May 20 2011 - 06:06, said:

It's sad when you start to think the devs are trolling you.

If they were trolling, I think they would do something like this:
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Engine_of_War #58 Posted May 20 2011 - 18:36

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View PostMow_Mow, on May 19 2011 - 23:50, said:

Before, if you rotated your turret 180 degrees so your gun faces backwards, if you aimed all the way down, your gun would "clip" through the back of your tank. I suppose this was supposed to address that, and therefore they didn't take into account gameplay effects, which is probably why it snuck in so late in testing.


Then why couldn't they just have the gun not depress that low when turned backwards? It makes far more sense and doesn't make teh tank useless if the gun can't depress fully when facing its rear. heck they had systems for tanks that worked that way, it elevated the gun slighty to prevent the barrel from hitting its own hull! but wait that would be smart and still allow the T32 to compete (even only barly) with the OP-3 and other russian machines.

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well the very first answer they gave was the gun depression was a glitch in the programming that allowed usa tanks to rape with impunity.  then they brought up the barrel clipping the tank when it was turned backwards, something that i never paid attention to whatsoever really, and something i never noticed.  when it was brought up in this latest q and a thread about a high tier spg had the same issue as the barrel was clipping, and it was said that was just a modeling issue and it was not a high priority to fix.  so I dont know which one to believe but I do know having this ability allowed us to be effective, which is why we were able to live with a gun that did the least damage of all the tier 8 and nine guns and had the lowest penetration value.  with this change that gun is woefully inadequate and cant dish out enough damage to counterbalance the damage we are gonna take.

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http://forum.worldof...topic/99387-т32

use the translator ,all the players complaining about the T32 ,the dumbest thing is that it is heavy 8 tier tank cant penetrate 8 tier other tanks THE NERF KILLED AMERICAN LINE .THANK YOU MORONS DEVELOPERS ....DAMN PENETRATION IS SHIT ,ANGLE OF 105 IS SHIT , DAMAGE IS SHIT  :(:(:(    THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE SHIT THAT YOU DONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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