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Content_WG #1 Posted Aug 26 2014 - 20:30

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The Chieftain's latest real life tank tour shows us the in's and out's of his own namesake, the Chieftain!

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Strv74 #2 Posted Aug 26 2014 - 20:33

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Quite Interesting. When I felt the Chieftain at the Canadian War Museum, it felt like the Stilbrew was rubber. Anyone know the materiel?

Dominatus #3 Posted Aug 26 2014 - 20:39

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View PostStrv74, on Aug 26 2014 - 15:33, said:

Quite Interesting. When I felt the Chieftain at the Canadian War Museum, it felt like the Stilbrew was rubber. Anyone know the materiel?

It should be steel with rubber underneath.



Strv74 #4 Posted Aug 26 2014 - 20:41

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View PostDominatus, on Aug 26 2014 - 21:39, said:

It should be steel with rubber underneath.

 

 

Totally did not feel like that, along with the Leopard C1, it just felt like rubber sideskirts.

 

The C1 also had massive blobs of applique armor on the turret. 


Edited by Strv74, Aug 26 2014 - 20:41.


Silentstalker2 #5 Posted Aug 26 2014 - 20:45

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Yo dawg, I heard you like Chieftain so we put Chieftain in your Chieftain...

Xlucine #6 Posted Aug 26 2014 - 21:47

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I might as well copy this here:

View PostXlucine, on Aug 26 2014 - 21:22, said:

I approve of the ITCH. If I were to be pedantic, however, the restriction on stowing HESH in the turret was a late development (as in after 1980) - the ammunition stowage section of this document starts on page 195 (according to scribd, although the actual page number is different)

http://www.scribd.co...e-3-Pamphlet-33

The rounds in the bustle are the one's we're interested in (the rest of the turret rounds are safe in the turret basket, stowage on the loader's turret wall only came with APFSDS), and plan with the least HESH rounds in the turret still has 4 of them vulnerable (the totals are 14, 20, 10, and finally 2 in the Mk2/3 plan, HESH heavy Mk5, balanced Mk5 and APDS heavy Mk5 respectively). Also, stowing rounds either side of the driver may not be very safe in WoT terms, but I digress.

 

(I think it'd be amusing to watch the EU forums if the in-game chieftain got an ammo rack in the turret, since that's historically accurate after all. :trollface:)

 

(infact this whole post is probably pointless faux pedantry, since the chieftain chieftain looked over probably got upgraded to the OE round before Jacques acquired it)

 

ETA: almost forgot, stilbrew probably counts as composite since there's rubber involved. It's like a really basic cost reduced version of the later T-72's composite armour, if you squint a bit

 

 

View PostSilentstalker2, on Aug 26 2014 - 20:45, said:

Yo dawg, I heard you like Chieftain so we put Chieftain in your Chieftain...

 

We didn't see him in it :sad:

 

View PostStrv74, on Aug 26 2014 - 20:41, said:

Totally did not feel like that, along with the Leopard C1, it just felt like rubber sideskirts.

 

The C1 also had massive blobs of applique armor on the turret. 

 

Odd, the stilbrew I've seen felt very solid. I'd expect the C1 to feel like rubber since it had the rubber-coated perforated plates thing going on, but stillbrew ought to be steel externally covered in the anti-slip coating



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I found it odd that the tea-boiler was electrically powered.  With all the excess heat that a tank produces and the difficulty getting rid of it, you'd think that they would find an an easy way to scavenge some of that instead of producing MORE engine heat by powering heating elements with engine power.

 

 

Good video, though.


 



Xlucine #8 Posted Aug 27 2014 - 00:28

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View PostRumbleghost, on Aug 26 2014 - 23:53, said:

I found it odd that the tea-boiler was electrically powered.  With all the excess heat that a tank produces and the difficulty getting rid of it, you'd think that they would find an an easy way to scavenge some of that instead of producing MORE engine heat by powering heating elements with engine power.

 

 

Good video, though.


 

 

What do you do when the main engine isn't running, like when you're parked in a tactical position somewhere using the GUE to run the turret stuff?



Wilbur #9 Posted Aug 27 2014 - 01:20

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1044167_10202376064987304_8896746502333477707_n.jpgThe tank next to the Chieftain at 2:10 in the video went through my town and I took some pics.

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Anlushac11 #10 Posted Aug 27 2014 - 01:23

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A running engine produces heat which can be detected on thermal imagers. Im guessing a electric coffee pot inside the tank wont produce a thermal signature detectable from outside tank.

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the_moidart #11 Posted Aug 27 2014 - 04:41

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Very nice - I hope this translates in-game into a high rate of fire as the vehicle's defining characteristic!

Meplat #12 Posted Aug 27 2014 - 07:20

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Was that the picture I took in the Chieftain I messed with , of the IP?

 

Here's the image for those interested.-

 

The Optima battery to the right kind of gives it away. Here's some more looking to the right from the driver's seat-

 

 

And the vehicle itself. These folks are local to the Phoenix area.

 

 

I have some more of that vehicle if any are interested.



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I realized: Where is the gunner sight?

collimatrix #14 Posted Aug 27 2014 - 08:33

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There are two.  The no. 59 is on the starboard side of the turret roof and the no. 70 is probably somewhere on the starboard side of the gun tube, and very difficult to see.

Xlucine #15 Posted Aug 27 2014 - 10:25

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Erm, hang on - I just noticed, are you sure that's a Mk12 chief? I'm pretty sure that it isn't - for one, the Mk12 would have no TOGS (which is clearly visible on that chieftain in your fly around MVTF part 2) and the L30 would be fitted instead of the L11. Biggest giveaway, however, is that the Mk12 never saw service or production - what you have is a Mk11

 

View Postcollimatrix, on Aug 27 2014 - 08:33, said:

There are two.  The no. 59 is on the starboard side of the turret roof and the no. 70 is probably somewhere on the starboard side of the gun tube, and very difficult to see.

 

It's easier to see with stilbrew fitted, the hole is bigger

 

View PostMeplat, on Aug 27 2014 - 07:20, said:

Was that the picture I took in the Chieftain I messed with , of the IP?

 

Here's the image for those interested.-

 

The Optima battery to the right kind of gives it away. Here's some more looking to the right from the driver's seat-

 

 

And the vehicle itself. These folks are local to the Phoenix area.

 

 

I have some more of that vehicle if any are interested.

 

Yep, that's a Mk10 - stillbrew is fitted, but no TOGS



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I'm looking forward to this being added to WoT. Solid firepower, good RoF, good view range, great gun depression, and good gun handling seem to be what I can expect from it. How the armor translates into the game is still a mystery to me. 

The_Chieftain #17 Posted Aug 27 2014 - 18:37

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OK, I know what happened. The tank was marked by Littlefield as a Mk13, and I knew it was an earlier mark than that. I just didn't have time to do the digging.


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View PostWilbur, on Aug 26 2014 - 19:20, said:

1044167_10202376064987304_8896746502333477707_n.jpgThe tank next to the Chieftain at 2:10 in the video went through my town and I took some pics.

 

Thats a M103A(2) I beleive






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