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Content_WG #1 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 17:36

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Changes are coming to the positions within a Clan in Update 9.3!

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Note: As Strongholds continues to improve and add new features, they will be added to this table in the future.

Note 2: Even though the permissions for it are present on this table, we currently have no intention of activating the "Subversions" feature on the Global Map on the NA server.



Tedster_ #2 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 17:39

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so, do the depcoms get to manage the stronkhold here, or just on the RU server?

 

https://translate.go...t-text=&act=url



ed_anger #3 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 17:53

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View PostTedster59, on Sep 19 2014 - 12:39, said:

so, do the depcoms get to manage the stronkhold here, or just on the RU server?

 

https://translate.go...t-text=&act=url

 

currently DCs can do everything in strongholds except start the HQ (enabling the clan to participate at all in strongholds), i doubt that is changing. WG often has unclear translations when they post news quickly.

Machination_Mindset #4 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:01

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  • Create and manage Stronghold

 

That is just for the commander, meaning "executive officer" cant mange the stronghold at all?



MadCatt #5 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:11

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I'm not seeing other positions "Managing Strongholds"  ...not good.

Tedster_ #6 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:12

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View PostMachination_Mindset, on Sep 19 2014 - 13:01, said:

 

That is just for the commander, meaning "executive officer" cant mange the stronghold at all?

 

https://translate.go...t-text=&act=url

 

RU patchnotes have "fortified area" (AKA stronghold) under Executive Officer too



MadCatt #7 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:17

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Ok...cool.  Thanks Tedster.

 

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Where's the promised gimp rank?

FirstOfOne #9 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:22

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So Junior officer is a title only? They cannot do anything a Private* cannot.     *(soldier is a much better name as it was) 

At the moment, Junior Officer is a way to provide a player with a different title to let them stand out without additional privileges.

 

Personnel Officer is decent if you need a guy to run everything but don't want to allow access to the treasury.

 

And reservist? Srsly? A guy that is a recruit but cannot move himself up into the CW battle.... that must be a huge problem on the RU server.

Different positions have been introduced to allow greater control to a Clan.  A Clan does not have to use all of the positions if they do not want to.

 ~HBFT

 

When I first heard about these changes I thought It may give more options to clans, nope.

 

Here is an idea, Allow Commanders to name positions and assign them permissions as he see fit.

 

 



Bryant21 #10 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:22

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What is the point of the new junior office rank? It appears to be no different then a private.

 

Junior Officer*

  • Access restricted Clan information on the Global Map
  • View Clan Treasury statistics
  • Select players in the battle room
  • Participate in Clan Wars battles
  • Organize and participate in Skirmishes

Private

  • Access restricted Clan information on the Global Map
  • View Clan Treasury statistics
  • Select players in the battle room
  • Participate in Clan Wars battles
  • Organize and participate in Skirmishes


Xeroproject #11 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:30

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There's also really no point to having the Recruitment and Personnel Officers.  Recruitment Officers should have the ability to modify recruitment terms and the ability to kick ranks lower than themselves.  I don't see any reason to add Personnel, and leave the Recruitment Officer gimped and broken.

BladedPheonix #12 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:34

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What's the point of all this?:amazed: Why change the old names when the current names work perfectly fine? Granted adding new positions is great but, seriously why fix the rest when it isn't broken?:facepalm:


 

Also, when are they going to allow rank badges/title for clans? Example: Captain, Sergeant, Lieutenant, Major, and other ranks? you could have it that the longer a player is in a clan at certain level, deputy commander for example, the higher rank they hold.:bajan:



_Dreadnaught_ #13 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:40

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Ok... who's the guy that wanted new CW positions?

 

<_<

 

>_>

 

Where is that guy..

I CAN'T FIND HIM.



Blackhorse_Six_ #14 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:44

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View Post_Dreadnaught_, on Sep 19 2014 - 13:40, said:

Ok... who's the guy that wanted new ... positions?

 

Well, we did, sort of, but we wanted other, optional, position titles like "XO", "Cadre", "Battle Captain" and "Trooper" to mesh with the Army/Cav theme ...

 

One of us might even have advocated the standard US Army abbreviations for battalion/squadron staff positions:  S-1, S-2, S-3, S-4, S-5

 

No Blackhorse has ever been listed as a "Recruit" any longer than it took to change it to "Soldier" (Trooper).

 

So far as the game titles go, it always seemed more logical to apply the term "TC" or "Tank Commander" to everyone who was not otherwise slotted in a "Leadership" position.

 

After all, every player is his own Tank Commander ... it only makes sense ...



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View PostBlackhorse_Six, on Sep 19 2014 - 13:44, said:

 

Well, We did, but we wanted other, optional, terms like "Cadre" and "Trooper" to mesh with the Cav theme ...

 

Cav theme? Clue me in please D:

+1 for your troubles



Blackhorse_Six_ #16 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 18:48

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View Post_Dreadnaught_, on Sep 19 2014 - 13:46, said:

Cav theme? Clue me in please D:

+1 for your troubles

 

The Horse you see in our avatars is the unit service patch of the US Army's 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment (Blackhorse).

 

Cadre members of the game clan have advocated alternative position titles as multiple-choice options whenever the subject has come-up in past threads.

 

IIRC, I or BH9 started a thread about it a couple of years ago.



PeterGibbons316 #17 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 19:42

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View PostFirstOfOne, on Sep 19 2014 - 13:22, said:

Here is an idea, Allow Commanders to name positions and assign them permissions as he see fit. 

 

Fantastic idea.  Just allow each unique permission to be set individually.  I'm our treasurer, but would like to be able to help out moving chips and managing our stronghold when our DCs aren't available.



PrototypeRewired #18 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 20:01

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Another redundant and pointless change. Just like your new game mode for chaffee racing, a pointless waste of time. Doesn't the company have anything better to do? Like Finnish your HD textures that killed my laptop. Or Making more maps into 3 firing lanes, and exorcising deforestation skills?

 

 Commander

  • Modify Clan data and settings

 

Executive Officer

  • Modify Clan data and settings

 

Oh hell no... Modify clan data and setting had better not include changing clan names, tags, description in the portal, map color.

If it does I foresee many smaller clan dep coms backstabbing their CO's and changing the names to better suit themselves.

I wan't an answer on this PM'd to me.

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These new ranks, pointless. The current system works fine and there is no need to change it. If you were to dumb to figure out how to run an alright / ok sometimes clan ( see HT for example ) with the current ones, this new setup will only make it worse.

 

Also the term "Private" for the men/women in your clan that might have been there for years as just a soldier....that sounds like a downgrade, and honestly it's a bit insulting.


Edited by PrototypePegasus, Sep 19 2014 - 20:05.


The_Assassin711 #19 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 20:16

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Personally, I see little difference, most of the 'new' ranks aren't really all that useful, there's nothing they add that the commander, deputy commander (and possibly company commanders) do not already do (admittedly not every clan uses deputy commanders to recruit like mine so if you want to add recruiter to that list then by all means.)

 

There's not really a need for all these changes/additions when you haven't actually added anything to the clan structure/activities that would require their existence; for all intents and purposes I'm guessing most clans' hierarchies will stay relatively unchanged after this.

 

(That and I can't really imagine what anyone would bother using the 'Reservist' rank for unless in the future it will allow you to go over the clan member limit or something.)

 

 

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It's news that isn't really news at all! :tongue:



Blackhorse_Six_ #20 Posted Sep 19 2014 - 20:20

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View PostThe_Assassin711, on Sep 19 2014 - 15:16, said:

That and I can't really imagine what anyone would bother using the 'Reservist' rank for unless in the future it will allow you to go over the clan member limit or something.

 

I could see it as it might apply to a member of a sub-clan, 2nd stringer, or inactive member of a social clan ...






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