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Lert #1 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 21:28

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A polish friend of mine showed me this picture of a Warsaw Uprising memorial on the Warsaw Technical University campus near by where she lives:

 

 

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I've been trying to figure out what tank that length of track belongs to. At first I thought of a captured german tank, possibly Pz III or Pz IV, but the guide horns are solid instead of hollow like on the Pz's. Then I looked further: could this be a piece of an IS / IS-2 track? I asked her to measure the width of the track, what was the width of an IS-2's track?



KaiserMartens #2 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 21:38

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You should start by looking up which vehicles participated in the uprising. It's unlikely to be a Russian vehicle following that logic, as they stopped their offensive to give time to Germany to crush the uprising.

 

It may also be a "non-tank" tracked or partially tracked vehicle.



Umka #3 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 21:40

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View PostLert, on Nov 19 2014 - 15:28, said:

... what was the width of an IS-2's track?

 

650mm

 

https://ru.wikipedia....81.D1.82.D1.8C



Clefspeare13 #4 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 21:40

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Track Width65 cm (26")

bat1159man #5 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 21:40

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I believe that they are Pzkw IV tracks - IIRC, they did use solid guide horns as well as hollow.

dirtythedawg #6 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 21:49

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View Postbat1159man, on Nov 19 2014 - 20:40, said:

I believe that they are Pzkw IV tracks - IIRC, they did use solid guide horns as well as hollow.

 

Those are NOT Pz III/IV tracks, they are too wide and the end connectors are incorrect.

 

This is a Pz III/IV track: 

http://www.questmast...201-606x265.jpg

 

And no they are not Winterketten or Ostketten either as the guide horns would be off center.

 

The drive sprocket seems very wide too



cartires #7 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 21:56

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For what it's worth I feel like they are from a soviet tank.....t34 comes to mind as I have seen them up close and personal, my .02 .

RoboT95 #8 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 22:20

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View Postcartires, on Nov 19 2014 - 14:56, said:

For what it's worth I feel like they are from a soviet tank.....t34 comes to mind as I have seen them up close and personal, my .02 .

 

Not T-34

The horns meshed with the Back drive wheel to move forward ect. there shouldn't be "sprocket holes"? if it was a T-34.

But I do agree by the soviet tank part.


Edited by RoboT95, Nov 19 2014 - 22:25.


bossmanmj #9 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 22:22

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Parola_Armoured_Vehicle_Museum_Hattula_F

 

It doesn't make sense to me, but how about a T-54? Closest match I can find so far. I'm looking more specifically at where the teeth from the drive sprockets fit into the track. It gets pretty thin on the outside edges

 

is-2_03_of_83.jpg

and here's is-2 track.


Edited by bossmanmj, Nov 19 2014 - 22:36.


Lert #10 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 22:43

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You may have something there, T-54/55 tracks look closest so far.

NL_Celt #11 Posted Nov 19 2014 - 23:59

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View PostLert, on Nov 19 2014 - 16:58, said:

A polish friend of mine showed me this picture of a Warsaw Uprising memorial on the Warsaw Technical University campus near by where she lives

Full size behind this link.

 

I've been trying to figure out what tank that length of track belongs to. At first I thought of a captured german tank, possibly Pz III or Pz IV, but the guide horns are solid instead of hollow like on the Pz's. Then I looked further: could this be a piece of an IS / IS-2 track? I asked her to measure the width of the track, what was the width of an IS-2's track?


 

26" or 65cm.

 



Walter_Sobchak #12 Posted Nov 20 2014 - 00:00

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I looks an awful lot like T54/55 track.  I suspect that the artist used post war track for the memorial since it was probably what was available. 

dirtythedawg #13 Posted Nov 20 2014 - 20:24

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I agree, the T54/55.  The IS tracks have an extension where the drive sprocket engages them, the T54/55 is thin like the OP's picture.

Lert #14 Posted Nov 21 2014 - 01:36

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I'm just waiting for my friend to measure the track width for confirmation. Does anyone know the T-54/55 track width?

ComradeBlyat #15 Posted Nov 21 2014 - 04:09

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View PostLert, on Nov 21 2014 - 00:36, said:

I'm just waiting for my friend to measure the track width for confirmation. Does anyone know the T-54/55 track width?

 

500mm &580 mm afaik. Standardized tracks used on most of the T series from T-54 to T-72.

bossmanmj #16 Posted Nov 24 2014 - 18:22

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http://www.primeportal.net/the_battlefield.htm

 

Here's a good photo heavy website of various military vehicles.






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