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Vash8349 #1 Posted May 31 2011 - 07:13

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I saw this on the revised tech tree.   Any idea about the specifications?

Brock7142 #2 Posted Jun 01 2011 - 07:21

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Armament: 122mm ML-30 Howitzer (40 rounds).

    Armour: 45mm.

    Weight: 34 tons.

    Speed: 34mph (55kmh) on road, (25kmh) cross country.

    Range: 186 miles (300km) on road.

    Crew: 5, commander, gunner, driver and two loaders.

Following the success of the German Sturmgeschutz, the Russians began to develop their own self-propelled guns to fulfil both infantry support and anti tank roles. In April 1942 development began on the first of these vehicles. Based on the T-34 chassis, the SU-122 was introduced in January 1943. It was fitted with the 122mm M-30 howitzer mounted in an armoured casemate. To simplify production the engine and transmission of the T-34 were retained. This also eased familiarization for crews already experienced with the T-34. The large crew compartment accommodated a crew of 5, one more than the T-34. However the main gun performed poorly in the anti armour role. This was due to the weight of its shell, which reduced the muzzle velocity. The vehicles chassis was also unreliable and suffered from frequent breakdowns. In March 1943 a second variant was introduced, the SU-122M. It was fitted with an improved main gun, the U-11 howitzer and the crew was reduced to four men. Production of the vehicle ended in November 1943 when it was replaced by the SU-152.

http://www.theeaster...ssianspguns.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU-122

SkttLes #3 Posted Jun 02 2011 - 01:34

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^ That is represented in game as the SU-85 with the 122mm gun

The SU-122-54 is a tank destroyer built on a T-54 chassis and fitted with a 122mm D-49 gun, with almost 2,000 produced

http://www.museum-ta...ges3/su1221.JPG
http://vadimvswar.na...AU/SuSAU019.jpg
http://vadimvswar.na...AU/SuSAU021.jpg

evhgear #4 Posted Jun 02 2011 - 02:05

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View PostBrock7142, on Jun 01 2011 - 07:21, said:

What youre showing is the SU-122, not the SU-122 54, Skttles shows the good one. The difference is that SU-122 was used in mid WWII, and the SU-122 54 is based on a T-54 I think. Maybe someone can confirm this ?

Kosatka #5 Posted Jun 02 2011 - 03:30

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Yep. The SU-122 you're showing the specifications for is on the T-34 chassis (same as the SU-85).

Teurlinx_NL #6 Posted Jun 02 2011 - 03:59

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View PostSkttLes, on Jun 02 2011 - 01:34, said:

^ That is represented in game as the SU-85 with the 122mm gun



Just to be clear, you mean the SU-100 right? The SU-85 doesn't have a 122mm gun.

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View PostTeurlinx_NL, on Jun 02 2011 - 03:59, said:

Just to be clear, you mean the SU-100 right? The SU-85 doesn't have a 122mm gun.
Nope, the SU-85 can mount the U-11 122mm howitzer.

Anyway, the posted SU-122-54 is correct. We probably won't see any in-game stats for a while as the alternate Russian TD line is not yet modeled, but the SU-122-54 will likely have similar armor and mobility to the T-54, so less survivable than the Object 704, but certainly more maneuverability.

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View PostLuftwaffle, on Jun 02 2011 - 04:32, said:

Nope, the SU-85 can mount the U-11 122mm howitzer.

Ah, knew I was missing something, thanks.

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sephrir #9 Posted Aug 16 2011 - 02:55

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the su-122-54 also was pro-typed with a 122mm m-46S which was a higher damaging and higher penetrating gun then the M-46 original tank gun which was also mounted on the su-122-54 and that was exactly the same in stats of the BL-9 except for rate of fire.

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so with the su-122-54 your looking at 120mm frontal armor (maybe slightly higher) sloped at 20 degrees, a 122mm gun with 275mm penetration and a 8-9 RPM rate of fire and top speed of 55kph and traverse speed of 50 degrees per second. now this is only a ball park guess i havnt found the exact specs through google yet.

hoom #11 Posted Aug 17 2011 - 16:51

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Looks like a lot better than 20 degrees slope to me.

sephrir #12 Posted Aug 27 2011 - 05:10

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My link

this will give you all the stats for the su-122-54

top speed 48km/h
traverse 30 degrees per second
armor 100 front
60 side
20 rear
122mm d-49 (35 rounds) penetration rating: (???)

Note: according to wiki, the su-122 also could mount the 152 derp from the su152/isu152/obj704 and a 122mm D-30.

pretty much all there except for the gun stats.

johncage #13 Posted Aug 28 2011 - 04:55

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it should have a covering over the mantlet like in the illustration imo.

Vadjas #14 Posted Aug 29 2011 - 12:32

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http://forum.worldof...0992-су-122-54/

ArmoredCorps #15 Posted Aug 31 2011 - 03:08

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View PostVadjas, on Aug 29 2011 - 12:32, said:

Yeah thanks for that.

"Just use Google Translate." People do, posts are still a pain to read, though I've discovered belatedly "Tower" means turret according to Google's Russian translations. Especially the OP is a pain to read.  <_<

POLINDOCAN #16 Posted Sep 01 2011 - 01:00

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View PostBrock7142, on Jun 01 2011 - 07:21, said:

Armament: 122mm ML-30 Howitzer (40 rounds).

    Armour: 45mm.

    Weight: 34 tons.

    Speed: 34mph (55kmh) on road, (25kmh) cross country.

    Range: 186 miles (300km) on road.

    Crew: 5, commander, gunner, driver and two loaders.

Following the success of the German Sturmgeschutz, the Russians began to develop their own self-propelled guns to fulfil both infantry support and anti tank roles. In April 1942 development began on the first of these vehicles. Based on the T-34 chassis, the SU-122 was introduced in January 1943. It was fitted with the 122mm M-30 howitzer mounted in an armoured casemate. To simplify production the engine and transmission of the T-34 were retained. This also eased familiarization for crews already experienced with the T-34. The large crew compartment accommodated a crew of 5, one more than the T-34. However the main gun performed poorly in the anti armour role. This was due to the weight of its shell, which reduced the muzzle velocity. The vehicles chassis was also unreliable and suffered from frequent breakdowns. In March 1943 a second variant was introduced, the SU-122M. It was fitted with an improved main gun, the U-11 howitzer and the crew was reduced to four men. Production of the vehicle ended in November 1943 when it was replaced by the SU-152.

http://www.theeaster...ssianspguns.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SU-122
It is on the T54 chassis, not T34, and you are 10 years too early on this

Termina #17 Posted Sep 26 2011 - 06:56

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I'm really hoping that it will take after the T25AT playstyle-wise.

matrix12 #18 Posted Dec 22 2011 - 22:52

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I belive that SU 122-54 should be

1, Fire power
    A brand new su122-54 has a 122mm howitzer, TD version 122mm BL-9, 122mm D-49 and 130mm S-70 guns can be upgraded as a tier-9 TD.
2, Armor
   Lighter armor than Object 704, with 1400-1500 HP
3, Mobility
   Similar than T-54

F3lip3 #19 Posted Jan 27 2012 - 13:16

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View PostLuftwaffle, on Jun 02 2011 - 04:32, said:

Nope, the SU-85 can mount the U-11 122mm howitzer.

Anyway, the posted SU-122-54 is correct. We probably won't see any in-game stats for a while as the alternate Russian TD line is not yet modeled, but the SU-122-54 will likely have similar armor and mobility to the T-54, so less survivable than the Object 704, but certainly more maneuverability.
I hope this, have a TD with great gun and mobility will be very fun  :Smile-playing:

Zeppelinisgod #20 Posted Feb 05 2012 - 16:32

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dear god this lil monster looks like what would happen if the stugIII turned big and green when you made him angry... cant wait to play  it!




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