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I love the people who start shooting up allies, then act all innocent.  One guy in an M5 Stewart did that to me last night.  He shot one ally at spawn, then meandered over to where I as setting up my Priest to lob at the enemy and started shooting me.

I didn't notice at first - I was in arty overhead mode shooting at the enemy.  My first thoughts as I started to take hits were "damm, the enemy has good counter-battery".  Then one of my allies noticed and typed in chat "M5 stop that".

I get out of arty overhead mode, and see him, shooting away at me (and missing most of the time).  He then stops shooting, turns around, and drives off behind a rock.  I'm now at 20% health, so pursue.  I turn the corner and unload a shot at him, but only get the "that was close" result.

He types in "WTF!".

He then tries to run away, but can't outrun my next arty shot, so gets obliterated.

He then types in chat "Why did you do that for?"

Several other allies had observed all this and typed in:

"lol - we saw you do it M5"
and
"nice try M5, you got what you deserve".


After the game, I checked the replay and that's when I noticed he had shot not just me but the teammate at spawn.  I then reported the M5 with the in-game reporting function.

Of course, after the game itself I get a whopping fine of 8K for killing him.  His compensation to me for taking away 80% of my health - only 900 credits.

*****


There's always some idiots out there.........
Edited by CommissarKharkov, Dec 07 2012 - 19:38.

cpl_killem, on Dec 07 2012 - 17:32, said:

So, someone on your team kills a griefer and his friend that were harrassing him to the point he felt he had to kill them both, which turns him blue, and then goes about his business to kill the enemy.  You would have sympathy for the griefers and kill the blue guy not matter what?  You need to reevaluate your sense of justice.

Husarski, on Dec 07 2012 - 19:14, said:

Nope, still takes two shots.  I've tested it.  It may seem like one shot, but at some point in that battle, you did team damage.

Edit:

CommissarKharkov, on Dec 07 2012 - 19:33, said:

Common misconception here about compensation.
The penalty is four times the repair cost, or the max you earned in battle.
The compensation is half the cost to repair, up to the max the griefer earned in battle.  You probably got every credit this whipe got that battle.
Edited by 3BAC, Dec 07 2012 - 19:44.

Husarski, on Dec 07 2012 - 19:14, said:

I believe if you kill a team mate in your spawn, you turn blue immediately (and should be killed/shown no mercy)
I believe if you SPAWN blue, it's because you've hit a threshold for team killing/damage in previous games (and IMO should be killed/shown no mercy)

in short, if you are blue, it's your own fault, no mercy. If you don't like it, stop killing/shooting team members.

3BAC, on Dec 07 2012 - 19:40, said:

From my own personal game play experience, greifers are very rare, team killers are much less so, and people over-reacting to idiots making a mistake and killing a team mate is even less rare. As such, justice is dished out based on the most likely probability that the blue guy, deserves to be killed.

Dumb Q, does the opposing team see them as blue as well? or are they all just red? I don't recall ever seeing a blue player on the opposing team. If I did, I'd let him live lol

Always shoot blue names first, if you read the rules on TK long story short if your blue its because you "team damage"weather it results in a kill or not"they do it quite often in a short period of time.so always kill them first then red names jk, ;-) just read the thread from WG its kinda long and dry though

cpl_killem, on Dec 07 2012 - 17:32, said:

thats a false statement mr..... its not always cause you have a thought process.... i had one guy hounding me any time he would catch me in a macth... killed me 3 times in 2 days.... next two times i saw him i defended and shot him back, killed him once..... then a few days later and unrelated some kid tried pushing me into enemy fire while shooting me so i pushed back, rammed him and he died... now im blue cause people are morons, not cause im a jerk trying to kill team mates..... dont make such general assumptions, you kind of come off as an elitist

when they are blue, its not always someone who goes starts shooting at friendlies. I had a blue guy once and he just played along with the team without ever hitting a friendly. i know since i kept close to him to kill him in case he wanted to TK. But mainly blue is indeed a real TK-er and if he just instantly shoots a friendly and then wonders why he got killed since hes blue, i think he will have much to learn from this game

BeerStalkerJ, on Aug 24 2012 - 04:35, said:

  you could have just held down your Alt key, i believe the default Alternate displays their name over the tank.....


TK's is why i love my t-50-2    if a heavy shoots at me or hurts me on purpose, then i assume they want me dead, and im happy to help, I'll get a couple of running starts and ram them... i will usually die within two rams on a heavy tank. They get -1 for killing me by collision....
Edited by Lt_Salty, Dec 12 2012 - 16:17.

V1ad, on Jul 05 2012 - 20:00, said:

Hey V1ad, it’s quite funny how you mysteriously forgot to mention WHY I smoked that arty……. And don’t tell me you don’t know because when you all were talking smack in chat I TOLD everyone why I did it. And that if he did it again in another match I would TK him again………..



Let it be Known; if you spam chat the entire duration of the countdown timer I WILL shoot you.  And if it happens that you’re a t3 arty in a t7 game it will only take 1 shot……………..



I have a 32in screen, and if you fill my entire screen from the chat box all the way to the top…………….Yeah I’m gonna TK you. The grass is green the sky is blue and that’s just how it is…….



The comical part is I’m not even blue in my garage……….And contrary to all your chest beating I’m not banned……………….
Edited by Pimphand2, Dec 12 2012 - 16:35.

Pimphand2, on Dec 12 2012 - 16:34, said:

Yeah because killing them will make them stop spamming. If anything you gave them am excuse to continue spamming. why don't you stop being a meat head with a big gun and use your head, there is a ignore button for a reason... Ignore, report.... It's not that hard, no one has to die... Anyone that shoots their team mate is an idiot that wants  to show how bad ass they are by tking.  Oh you are so cool, you don't even care about -1, he's a bad ass.  
Well good job, because of your stupidity your team is now a tank down before the fight even starts....   You are an ignorant oaf and you deserve to be banned, at least temporarily...

I don't shoot blue's right away, they probably deserve it, but in some cases maybe not.

Just last week I dropped onto the last enemy is7 from above and started shooting his turret while I sort of sat on top of him.

Along came an E100 that launched over the same little cliff landing on both me and the last is7......somehow, I got a 7000 dollar bill from it...

If in the next match a had an errant shot, would that have turned me blue?  Who knows, I never have been yet, but no one really has a solid answer.

The team damage system works very well IMO - it is extremely hard to turn blue by accident.  

One time a platoon of two were mildly smack-talking with a kv-1 during countdown and when the game started the platoon parked their tanks in front and behind the kv-1 and kept doing this for at least 30 seconds while he tried to get away.  I watched the whole thing and finally the kv-1 attacked and killed them both.  I actually encouraged the team not to kill him so he could help us win.  Incidentally, we lost anyway.

cpl_killem, on Dec 07 2012 - 17:32, said:

The other 13 players on your team may not appreciate your judgement on their behalf. I only have a certain amount of time in the day to play, and am not appreciative of my daily double possibility being dramatically reduced because someone who is not a TKer has decided to unilaterally reduce our numbers.

The game's mechanics are not designed to effectively prevent the blue player from playing. Repeated TKs will result in a total game ban, not just turning blue. Obviously, other players don't see that, however. The correct answer is to keep an eye on the guy, but not to kill on sight absent hostile intent.

This ^^

Sometimes you accidentaly kill another tank in your team (specially ig you are top tier and the other guy is 3~4 tiers below you).

I turned blue once because a player in a tier 5 tank just run in front of my BL10 (ISU-152) as I was taking a shot at another tank.
I was full zoomed in and didn't see him comming, nor did he know that I was about to fire. Needles to say I took 100% of his HP out, killing him.
Shit happens, and jumping into conclusions is never a good idea.

Besides, some of your other teammates may not like your attitude, wich may create quite a havok, leading to a sure loss of the battle.

Best case scenario, you will be distracted hunting him, instead of hunting the red dots. Which account for two less tanks trying to win the battle.
Edited by CaptIceman, Dec 12 2012 - 17:09.

Husarski, on Dec 07 2012 - 19:14, said:

No you don't.  If you have a perfectly clean record and accidentally one shot a teammate in your spawn circle, you are not turning blue for that.  You may turn blue if you have a recent history of damaging or killing teammates.

cpl_killem, on Dec 07 2012 - 19:45, said:

They do see them turn blue

The_Chieftain, on Dec 12 2012 - 17:01, said:

Chief would you comment on my HESH thread?
Thanks.

Lt_Salty, on Dec 12 2012 - 16:51, said:

You can't possibly "ignore" all the morons in this game, because there is a limited number of people WG allows you to put on the list.

The_Chieftain, on Dec 12 2012 - 17:01, said:

I disagree.  I don't have the time to "keep an eye" on someone who's proven themselves to be a detriment to other teams.  Quite frankly, not only is he/she a teamkiller, they aren't very bright either.  I've never turned blue in game, but I have had my name go blue in the garage on two occasions.  That blue name in the garage is a warning that you are at the point of going blue in game.  That warning means you need to be careful of taking risky shots, to avoid the excessive number of small tanks who think it's cool to ram heavies because the heavies get punished for it (so no, the tk system is not working well and has some major flaws), or to avoid retaliating against the grievers.  If you actually turned blue in game, you clearly don't give a damn about helping your team, and you don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Rake, on Dec 12 2012 - 17:40, said:

If you can "accidentally" team hit once in a while as you described you getting a warning for, then you can also accidentally have a really bad streak of luck where you can do enough to turn blue.

I have never, and I have never been blue in the garage either...but I have accidentally hit team mates.

....and you don't have to spend time "watching" blue players.  You will know soon enough if they are misbehaving.