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CrouchingTigerHiddenBuki #1 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:17

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Hi. I'm NuclearPhantom and I'm just an average joe WoT player who is really getting sick and tired of E25 tank destroyers wrecking my team every match I go into. The sheer amount of ridiculous overpowered-ness that the E25 possesses is absolutely stupid. The rate of fire and accuracy of the gun is already ridiculous and combined with a gun rammer and laying drive make it even more op, plus it's small, very maneuverable AND doesn't get seen when firing?? That's really broken in my opinion. Compared to the Russian SU-122-44, which also has a good rate of fire gun with nice damage, but it isn't nearly as accurate, longer to aim and the tank is a bigger target. The AT15A British tank destroyer has a very nice gun on it and nice armor, however it's very slow and prone to flanking fire. I'm very happy that at least the E25 got removed from the shop and the ingame tech tree, but that doesn't keep them from being op. I have attached a screenshot of my last match in my Jagdpanzer IV. That E25 wiped out my most of my team. This is what happens every match I go into that involves that tank. Something has to be done about this.

 

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tmaaan55 #2 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:20

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dimabal100000 #3 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:20

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To WG:  

 

I spent money buying it... If you nerf it, gimme my money back. Or a gold compensation :) 

 


Edited by dimabal100000, Jan 30 2015 - 05:33.


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The e-25 is a high skill cieling, low skill floor tank. Basically a bad player will do even worse than normal in it, but a good player can do even better than they normally would. What you are seeing is someone who is skilled at the game, and is capable of using their tank's strengths to their advantage. The E-25's status as a premium, and an unavailable one at that, means that it probably will never be nerfed. You will however see less of them as time goes on.



SchnitzelTruck #5 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:21

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su12244>e25

Riptide109 #6 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:21

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oh boo hoo. It has bad pen for a t7 td, AND its only a 75 mm gun.

Synergy3k #7 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:26

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it doesnt need a nerf

Strike_Witch_Tomoko #8 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:27

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View PostNuclearPhantom, on Jan 29 2015 - 20:17, said:

Hi. I'm NuclearPhantom and I'm just an average joe WoT player who is really getting sick and tired of E25 tank destroyers wrecking my team every match I go into. The sheer amount of ridiculous overpowered-ness that the E25 possesses is absolutely stupid. The rate of fire and accuracy of the gun is already ridiculous and combined with a gun rammer and laying drive make it even more op, plus it's small, very maneuverable AND doesn't get seen when firing?? That's really broken in my opinion. Compared to the Russian SU-122-44, which also has a good rate of fire gun with nice damage, but it isn't nearly as accurate, longer to aim and the tank is a bigger target. The AT15A British tank destroyer has a very nice gun on it and nice armor, however it's very slow and prone to flanking fire. I'm very happy that at least the E25 got removed from the shop and the ingame tech tree, but that doesn't keep them from being op. I have attached a screenshot of my last match in my Jagdpanzer IV. That E25 wiped out my most of my team. This is what happens every match I go into that involves that tank. Something has to be done about this.

 

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let me guess.

he hid in a bush, and your team went after him 1 by 1 as he shot you down instead of you using arty to flush him out.

or rush him in a gorup



CaptianSparkIez #9 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:29

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They removed it. What else do you want?

TwixOps #10 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:30

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View Postdimabal100000, on Jan 30 2015 - 04:20, said:

To WG:  

 

I spent money before buying it... If you nerf it, gimme my money back. Or a gold compensation :) 

 

 

If a vehicle is OP, it needs to be nerfed.  Period.  It doesn't matter if I spent money  on it, Op vehicles need to be fixed.  

 

Now, does the E-25 need to be nerfed?  No.  



Vladamir_Inhaler #11 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:31

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View PostNuclearPhantom, on Jan 30 2015 - 12:47, said:

Hi. I'm NuclearPhantom and I'm just an average joe WoT player who is really getting sick and tired of E25 tank destroyers wrecking my team every match I go into. The sheer amount of ridiculous overpowered-ness that the E25 possesses is absolutely stupid. The rate of fire and accuracy of the gun is already ridiculous and combined with a gun rammer and laying drive make it even more op, plus it's small, very maneuverable AND doesn't get seen when firing?? That's really broken in my opinion. Compared to the Russian SU-122-44, which also has a good rate of fire gun with nice damage, but it isn't nearly as accurate, longer to aim and the tank is a bigger target. The AT15A British tank destroyer has a very nice gun on it and nice armor, however it's very slow and prone to flanking fire. I'm very happy that at least the E25 got removed from the shop and the ingame tech tree, but that doesn't keep them from being op. I have attached a screenshot of my last match in my Jagdpanzer IV. That E25 wiped out my most of my team. This is what happens every match I go into that involves that tank. Something has to be done about this.

 

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That very accurate gun with a high rate of fire? It's the Stug's gun. A TIER FIVE gun. At TIER SEVEN.

 

As some have alluded to - while it is great in the hands of a good player, the tank itself is NOT OP.



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View PostSchnitzelTruck, on Jan 29 2015 - 22:21, said:

su12244>e25

 

exactly. I mean, fine, give it supreme Dpm. But high alpha too? And good gun handling (for a tier 7 Russian 122) to add...and mobile? What's next, decent armor? Oh wait....:facepalm: if anything this tonk needs a nerf, at least to its Dpm or gun handling (maybe shoot half a round or even a whole round less a minute?)

Gurdy2383 #13 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:32

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To get 2 Marks of Excellence in the E25 you have to deal/assist 1605 damage on average. 1605 damage from a tier 7 is not that special. There are at least a dozen tier 7's that are expected to deal/assist more damage on average than the E25. Does that really sound like an op tank? I don't think so.

Valkovich #14 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:33

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I probably dont want to severely nerf a premium tank because back when the Super P got nerfed the people who spent gold on it got an option to sell it for the original price in gold that it was bought for.

Xeraux #15 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:34

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The thing is that the above game, 4k dmg, is very rare, even for a super good E 25 driver.

Also, worse tier 7 TD tanks such as the aforementioned AT 15A and SU-122-44, are still in the shop, while the E 25 simply isn't.



Mikosah #16 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:39

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You could make a similar accusation about the Type 59, which is also a premium tank that is statistically strong and has limited MM as well. Those things used to be everywhere, you couldn't get into a tier 8 match without one. So how popular are they now? Still just as strong, but most of the players who bought them in the past have wandered off to play other games. Seeing one is quite the novelty these days.



krazydude4 #17 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:42

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 WG even said they wont nerf it and instead of nerfing it, they decided to remove it from sale.

 

key words: they wont nerf it

 


 


Edited by krazydude4, Jan 30 2015 - 04:50.


Legiondude #18 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:43

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After the Super Pershing WG made a policy not to nerf another premium vehicle once it's released

 

Their new way is just removing it from the shop



nxp #19 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:43

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give it another 3 month and you will see less and less of them. Bad players suck in it because they dont know how to use the bush and the cammo rating. and trust me alot of E25 owners are horrible players.

Bravo_Zulu_000 #20 Posted Jan 30 2015 - 04:44

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I think I found the issue:

 

http://worldoftanks.com/community/accounts/1002332081-NuclearPhantom/

 






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