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Podpalacz #61 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 17:22

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Weapons_Grade_Autisms #62 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 18:30

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le shojo neg rep army

 

seriously though, I've been through enough tournies to know this won't be the last mistake (as they happen almost weekly xD), and that placing the top16 teams as is with their prizes is wrong, I've lost matches before because we knew we were getting into the top whatever, and we just wanted to have fun in the game by bringing a fun lineup(oh wow playing a game for fun? how wrong). If the tourney was 3 days long andthe standings from the 3days were what made the prize, I'd be fine with that, but obviously those aren't the rules and I played according to the rules as they are now and ended only 7th because of that.



ATINYFISH1386 #63 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 18:31

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you guys are all wrong this will never happen again from here on out every tourney will run smooth with no issues

ATINYFISH1386 #64 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 18:32

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and if u  believe that one i can tell u another one

Mami_Momoe #65 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 18:37

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View Post_Smiliey, on Mar 20 2015 - 11:30, said:

le shojo neg rep army

 

seriously though, I've been through enough tournies to know this won't be the last mistake (as they happen almost weekly xD), and that placing the top16 teams as is with their prizes is wrong, I've lost matches before because we knew we were getting into the top whatever, and we just wanted to have fun in the game by bringing a fun lineup(oh wow playing a game for fun? how wrong). If the tourney was 3 days long andthe standings from the 3days were what made the prize, I'd be fine with that, but obviously those aren't the rules and I played according to the rules as they are now and ended only 7th because of that.

 

Considering this is the pub forums, it doesn't even matter.

 

View PostATINYFISH1386, on Mar 20 2015 - 11:32, said:

and if u  believe that one i can tell u another one

 

I, for one, would like to hear another joke.



Crimat #66 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 18:40

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The worst about this is that the actual #1 in the finals (up to now) is one of the team that didn't make it.. not like i mind onee-sama winning this but i still find it to be extremly dumb



Mami_Momoe #67 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 18:47

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View PostCrimat, on Mar 20 2015 - 11:40, said:

The worst about this is that the actual #1 in the finals (up to now) is one of the team that didn't make it.. not like i mind onee-sama winning this but i still find it to be extremly dumb

 

They would've been guaranteed top 16 anyways had they actually shown up for day 2.

 

I wish I could've been saved from 1 and a half hours of "playing" WoT half awake on Tuesday, though.



MZF_00 #68 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 21:44

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What is Wargaming's stance on this. I would appriciate it if trevzor gave input.

ATINYFISH1386 #69 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 21:49

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i think hes got better things to do then worrie about this, hes looking at how he can work on next weeks so this don't happen again,

ATINYFISH1386 #70 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 21:51

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i still want to know what were going to get out of this i think if they would just tell us i think this post would end allready

 



ATINYFISH1386 #71 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 21:51

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who cares about a team thats winning first that didn't make it, can't do any thing about that other then they are the lucky ones

dance210 #72 Posted Mar 20 2015 - 21:58

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View Postmrsoccer3, on Mar 20 2015 - 13:44, said:

What is Wargaming's stance on this. I would appriciate it if trevzor gave input.

 

Stance on what, exactly?

 

Trevz already mentioned that the teams he posted as top 16 are playing for gold yesterday and today. The teams that were accidentally left off will receive gold compensation. FYI, that gold will be given when the rest of the players are paid. 

 

Can he promise that mistakes won't happen in the future? No. But, when he gets back I'm sure he'll figure out where he made the mistake to hopefully prevent this from happening again.



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View Postdance210, on Mar 20 2015 - 21:58, said:

 

Stance on what, exactly?

 

Trevz already mentioned that the teams he posted as top 16 are playing for gold yesterday and today. The teams that were accidentally left off will receive gold compensation. FYI, that gold will be given when the rest of the players are paid. 

 

Can he promise that mistakes won't happen in the future? No. But, when he gets back I'm sure he'll figure out where he made the mistake to hopefully prevent this from happening again.

 

Thus Wargaming NA is promoting 'tainted results' overall, for Weekend Warfare 10.

 

Everyone in the Top 16 should be compensated the same, in terms of gold regardless.  To do otherwise is utterly unfair.  Why? They get paid for not even having to show up and play a single match on Thursday & Friday.  Meanwhile the Top 16 who 'earned' the right to be there, and were schedule to played against others who did not even 'earn' the right to be in the Top 16 are being penalized for Wargaming errors.

 

This whole tournament schedule & compensating system stinks to high heavens.

Biased, rigged and indefensible.



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View PostValan, on Mar 20 2015 - 15:12, said:

 

Thus Wargaming NA is promoting 'tainted results' overall, for Weekend Warfare 10.

 

Everyone in the Top 16 should be compensated the same, in terms of gold regardless.  To do otherwise is utterly unfair.  Why? They get paid for not even having to show up and play a single match on Thursday & Friday.  Meanwhile the Top 16 who 'earned' the right to be there, and were schedule to played against others who did not even 'earn' the right to be in the Top 16 are being penalized for Wargaming errors.

 

This whole tournament schedule & compensating system stinks to high heavens.

Biased, rigged and indefensible.

The teams that were left off the top 16  are being compensated for a screw up that was not their own. We have a history of compensating teams when there is an issue on our side - either a server failure or a failure of the staff to do something correctly. How, exactly, is that biased or indefensible?

 

How is anyone playing on Thursday and Friday penalized? The teams are required to show up, play and win if they want gold. Taking out the games against "extra" teams isn't fair. I haven't looked, but there is a possibility that they weren't evenly distributed between the two groups. So, would it be "fair" that one group may remove 3 teams and one group only removes one?

 

I'm sorry if you don't like it. However, this is how issues have been dealt with in the past. Unless you can give me a good reason to change our policy, the decision stands.

 

The only way to remove "tainted" results would be to cancel the entire tournament. GG, well done, everyone gets either zero or 200 gold (traditional compensation for server issues). Frankly, that's not something I am prepared or willing to do, but if that is what y'all want...



timmyisme22 #75 Posted Mar 21 2015 - 01:07

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1- clay - 33
1- Glass - 33
3- PM - 30
4- losbronze - 27
5- Rambo - 24
5- Esdeath - 24
7- money - 22
8- cruiser - 21
8- feeler - 21
10- arrow - 16
10- dank - 16
10- CDE - 16
13- nitro - 12
14- durex - 11
15- area51 - 10
16- underdogz - 9

 

 

Current count up for the teams between the two days. Can't wait to hear about 1st and 8th tie.

 

(It's a quick notepad memo. Don't hate me for it's awful layout)

 

 

*EDIT*

WoTScout is up now.


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View Postdance210, on Mar 20 2015 - 23:22, said:

The teams that were left off the top 16  are being compensated for a screw up that was not their own. We have a history of compensating teams when there is an issue on our side - either a server failure or a failure of the staff to do something correctly. How, exactly, is that biased or indefensible?

 

How is anyone playing on Thursday and Friday penalized? The teams are required to show up, play and win if they want gold. Taking out the games against "extra" teams isn't fair. I haven't looked, but there is a possibility that they weren't evenly distributed between the two groups. So, would it be "fair" that one group may remove 3 teams and one group only removes one?

 

I'm sorry if you don't like it. However, this is how issues have been dealt with in the past. Unless you can give me a good reason to change our policy, the decision stands.

 

The only way to remove "tainted" results would be to cancel the entire tournament. GG, well done, everyone gets either zero or 200 gold (traditional compensation for server issues). Frankly, that's not something I am prepared or willing to do, but if that is what y'all want...

 

The only problem is, YOU messed up. And we all had a chance to get 10k Gold. Now we are stuck with whatever place we were left with before YOUR mess up.

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Guys, please calm down already. Both administrators, Trevzor and dance210, admitted screwing up and both promised to make it right for us, that we'll be compensate. I know it's frustrating, I feel the same way. But throwing the mud won't help anyone now. They asked us to wait patiently. So wait patiently adding no more bitter words. There is nothing to say that hasn't been said... However, if we don't agree with the way they compensate us then we'll raise our voices again. But for now it will be wise and mature if we just wait giving them our credit of trust.


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Heyo everybody!

 

I have gone through the results and created a correct ranking of the teams and have found 5 teams to have been effected by my case of The Dumb (seriously, bad @ Excel.)

 

These teams are as follows:

Rank Teams Total Games Played Total Points Earned  Total Point Possible Win Ratio
1 Red Line Commandos 19 57 57 1.000
7 Straiku Waifus 20 48 60 0.800
9 Szoguni Akademika 19 45 57 0.789
11 VIDAMA 20 47 60 0.783
14 mancos al combate 20 45 60 0.750

 

 

Compensation for this problem will be as follows:

Red Line Commandos will be awarded gold in accordance to first place (10,000.) All other teams, having Win Ratios being equal to or greater than .200 away from first place, but .050 or less between each other will all receive gold in accordance to second place (7500.) I have decided to compensate the teams in this manner so as not to downplay the achievement that is a perfect record going into days 4 and 5 in the Weekday Warfare.

 

Furthermore, teams that were published incorrectly not in the top 16 will be awarded the either the gold that they were published to have earned or that they would have earned had I not brained super hard on the rankings sheet, whichever amount is higher.

 

I deeply apologize for the error. I am only but human and sometimes humans screw up.

 

And now to the Corner of Shame...
 

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Thank you for the swift response to this and keeping cool when everyone was screaming their heads off.

I am honored to have you guys as the wg tournament division, as everytime something like this has happened you always fix it and properly.

You have my gratitude P.s. everyone does make mistakes do not fret it's all good and do not feel bad



Mami_Momoe #80 Posted Mar 21 2015 - 22:46

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Thanks, Trevzor, for trying to make things right. Hopefully weekday warfares are smooth sailing from now on.





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