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Poll: JPanther II or Ferdinand (54 members have cast votes)

JPanther II or Ferdinand ? what is the best one

  1. JPanther II (38 votes [70.37%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 70.37%

  2. Ferdinand (16 votes [29.63%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 29.63%

wich one has the best attack ?

  1. JPanther II (44 votes [81.48%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 81.48%

  2. Ferdinand (10 votes [18.52%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.52%

wich one has the best defence ?

  1. JPanther II (22 votes [40.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 40.74%

  2. Ferdinand (32 votes [59.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 59.26%

wich is the best "sniper"

  1. JPanther II (35 votes [64.81%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 64.81%

  2. Ferdinand (19 votes [35.19%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.19%

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SourKraut13 #21 Posted Mar 22 2015 - 00:41

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View PostPope_Shizzle, on Mar 21 2015 - 17:34, said:

JP2 is just a better tank.  Power creep has rendered the once beastly Ferdi into just another slow tank that can't bounce a shot.  The JP2's mobility and faster reload combined with the ability to bounce some shots off the superstructure makes is the easy choice if all you're looking for is a fun tank to play.

 

Really?

Just not seeing your point there...1570 blocked by what... armor?



power_Donky #22 Posted Mar 22 2015 - 00:42

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Jp 2 has it all. No need gold, no need nutin.

SchnitzelTruck #23 Posted Mar 22 2015 - 00:52

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View PostSourKraut13, on Mar 21 2015 - 15:41, said:

Just not seeing your point there...1570 blocked by what... armor?

and ive had 4k blocked by my JP2... Whats your point?

Also you were top tier, the only times ferdi's armor means anything.



uMadXD #24 Posted Mar 22 2015 - 01:44

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View Postdawgfangs, on Mar 21 2015 - 23:31, said:

Have both, keeping both.  Just depends upon your preferred style of play. They are both good in different ways.  Also going to get the Borsig,  to go with my AT15 and ISU-152.  Would buy back the AMX mle AC 48, but my garage is getting overloaded with tier 8's. 

 

Complete nonsense.  JTiger's frontal armor is tough (provided you cover the lfp). JagdPz E-100 has that monster 17 cm gun that no one wants to get hit by. 

 

armor? what armor? oh, the 230mm-ish armor when angled? as if that's relevant in t9...it's useful for bullying tier 7s and some 8s, sure. but against other t9s and t10s? lel. the speed is atrocious, it's huge, making it an arty magnet and has awful camo. i had it, sold it, kept jp2

jageru... sure i'm afraid of it. but i also love pouncing on it after it shoots.


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dawgfangs #25 Posted Mar 22 2015 - 03:23

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View PostuMadXD, on Mar 21 2015 - 16:44, said:

 

armor? what armor? oh, the 230mm-ish armor when angled? as if that's relevant in t9...it's useful for bullying tier 7s and some 8s, sure. but against other t9s and t10s? lel. the speed is atrocious, it's huge, making it an arty magnet and has awful camo. i had it, sold it, kept jp2

jageru... sure i'm afraid of it. but i also love pouncing on it after it shoots.

If you play it as it's meant to be played, a 2nd line support, sniping, and yes angling properly and covering the lower plate, you'll do fine. Keep that 12.8 cm firing.  As for being an arty magnet, a lot of tier 9's are. My Tortoise comes to mind.  Getting pounced after firing the 17 cm?  That's probably because you're without friendly support. 

 

If you're constantly getting pen'd, attracting arty, getting pounced on after firing because you go off alone, you're doing it wrong. 

 

It ain't the tank that's the problem. 



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View Postdawgfangs, on Mar 22 2015 - 02:23, said:

If you play it as it's meant to be played, a 2nd line support, sniping, and yes angling properly and covering the lower plate, you'll do fine. Keep that 12.8 cm firing.  As for being an arty magnet, a lot of tier 9's are. My Tortoise comes to mind.  Getting pounced after firing the 17 cm?  That's probably because you're without friendly support. 

 

If you're constantly getting pen'd, attracting arty, getting pounced on after firing because you go off alone, you're doing it wrong. 

 

It ain't the tank that's the problem. 

 

honestly, your 34% WR/831 dpg on jagdtiger and 37% WR/846 dpg on jageru just doesnt convince me they're good.


Edited by uMadXD, Mar 22 2015 - 05:02.


dawgfangs #27 Posted Mar 22 2015 - 18:26

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View PostuMadXD, on Mar 21 2015 - 19:52, said:

 

honestly, your 34% WR/831 dpg on jagdtiger and 37% WR/846 dpg on jageru just doesnt convince me they're good.

 

Was waiting for that, took you long enough.  WR in pub matches involves luck, you're dependent on help from your team.  

 

Had 5 kills with my Ferdinand on Westfield & lost. Had 4 kills with my SU-122-44, Confederate & Defender medals, lost again. At some point your team has to step up and help. That's why they're called random pub matches.

 

Also had a teammate with xvm whining we had only a 33% chance to win a match on Airfield. We won.

 

Never said I was one of the better players, but you made my point exactly. 

 

There are players who like and do well with the M3 Lee and the ARL-V39. 

 

It ain't the tank that's the problem. 



uMadXD #28 Posted Mar 22 2015 - 23:40

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View Postdawgfangs, on Mar 22 2015 - 17:26, said:

 

Was waiting for that, took you long enough.  WR in pub matches involves luck, you're dependent on help from your team.  

 

Had 5 kills with my Ferdinand on Westfield & lost. Had 4 kills with my SU-122-44, Confederate & Defender medals, lost again. At some point your team has to step up and help. That's why they're called random pub matches.

 

Also had a teammate with xvm whining we had only a 33% chance to win a match on Airfield. We won.

 

Never said I was one of the better players, but you made my point exactly. 

 

There are players who like and do well with the M3 Lee and the ARL-V39. 

 

It ain't the tank that's the problem. 

 

your dmg per game is quite low... if you do more, you win more :I

jagdtiger and jg pz e100 just arent tanks capable of carrying normally. i have 57% WR/1.8k dpg on jp2 vs my jgtig's 50%/1.9k dpg. 100 more avg dmg as a tier higher! yay?


Edited by uMadXD, Mar 24 2015 - 00:09.


Stimulus #29 Posted Mar 27 2015 - 22:10

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JP2 can also equip it's top gun without getting the track upgrade, making the initial grind easier.




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