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What equipment do you use on the IS-3?

  1. Vertical Stabilizer Mk 2 (853 votes [17.66%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.66%

  2. Improved Ventilation Class 3 (861 votes [17.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.83%

  3. "Wet" Ammo Rack Class 2 (124 votes [2.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.57%

  4. Toolbox (168 votes [3.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.48%

  5. Large-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer (1480 votes [30.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.65%

  6. Large Spall Liner (167 votes [3.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.46%

  7. Fill Tanks with CO2 (20 votes [0.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.41%

  8. Enhanced Torsion Bars 5+ t Class (18 votes [0.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.37%

  9. Enhanced Gun Laying Drive (643 votes [13.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.32%

  10. Cyclone Filter (21 votes [0.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.43%

  11. Coated Optics (96 votes [1.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.99%

  12. Binocular Teslescope (129 votes [2.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.67%

  13. Camouflage Net (165 votes [3.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.42%

  14. None (84 votes [1.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.74%

What Consumables do you use on the IS-3?

  1. Large Repair Kit (180 votes [3.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.78%

  2. Large First Aid Kit (129 votes [2.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.71%

  3. Extra Combat Rations (32 votes [0.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.67%

  4. Automatic Fire Extinguishers (217 votes [4.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.56%

  5. Lend-Lease Oil (67 votes [1.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.41%

  6. Small Repair Kit (1433 votes [30.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.12%

  7. Small First Aid Kit (1346 votes [28.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.30%

  8. Removed Speed Governor (79 votes [1.66%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.66%

  9. Manual Fire Extinguishers (1137 votes [23.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.90%

  10. None (137 votes [2.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.88%

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Charcharo #1 Posted Jun 27 2011 - 12:46

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Good day to all WOT players!
On today’s menu we have the IS-3 (or the Iosif Stalin 3 Heavy Tank). This is a tier 8 soviet heavy tank that packs a punch even for those Tier 10 tanks. With this machine using the 122mm BL-9 you will finally be a threat to everything, even IS-7s and Maus tanks. Use it like you did your IS-2. In real life it was made as an antidote to the King Tiger problem.

Previous tank: IS-2
http://forum.worldof...topic=45206&st=
Next tank: IS-4

Stock Tank Specs:
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Upgrade tree:
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Overview:
You start off with the 122mm D-2-5T gun, which you bring back from the IS. Besides its decent damage, the gun doesn’t have enough penetration for a T8 tank and the gun itself is so inaccurate that chances are you will hit the sun rather than what you were aiming for (even then there is 50% chance you will also miss the sun and any adjacent star within a 5 light-years radius). When you get the BL9, you will have a dependable gun with decent penetration and good damage, the accuracy is improved a lot and you now have an actual chance of hitting even the moon. The IS-3 has decent frontal armor and since it’s sloped at such an angle it will deflect a LOT of stuff. Then we get to the side armor… you see those hatches on the side, well if they get hit by anything that can penetrate the 90mm side armor ...your ammo rack will explode and the tank is either one-shoted or looses 50% of its hit points. A good thing to note is that this is the third fastest heavy tank in the game (after the IS-7 and KV-1s). With its of 38 km/h it can very well be used as a medium tank. Being a tier 8 heavy, IS-3 is your first Elite tier tank. It can fight EVERYTHING head on.
Price: 2 568 500
Camouflage: Decent

Pros:
- Good damage on impact
- Decent frontal armor
- Good accuracy on BL-9
- Great speed and maneuverability for a heavy tank
Cons:
- Bad accuracy on staring guns
- Exploding ammo rack
- Slow aiming and reload time
- Bad gun-depression

Designation:
1. Warrior http://wiki.worldoft.../97/Warrior.png 2. Sniper http://wiki.worldoft...8f/Sniper.png3. Steel Wall http://wiki.worldoft...6/Steelwall.png 4. Reaper http://wiki.worldoft...HandOfDeath.png

Crew:
1. Commander (also a radioman) Posted Image
2. Gunner                      Posted Image
3. Driver                      Posted Image
4. Loader                      Posted Image

Use your IS-2 crew, it will save you some brain cells.
I suggest you specialize your crew this way:
1. Repair http://wiki.worldoft...SkillRepair.png
2. Firefighting http://wiki.worldoft...ireFighting.png
3. Camouflage http://wiki.worldoft...lCamouflage.png

IS-3 is prone to fires and module damage. Camouflage is good enough though.


Modules:
Armor scheme currently in use
Spoiler                     

Hull:
The frontal armour is 110mm, but huge slope increases it greatly. Most tier 6,7 and even some tier 8 guns(except 88L71) will have problems going through this part of the tank. Weak spot is the tip of the pike. Do know that you are gonna have to keep it PERFECTLY straight to the enemy, in order yo have maximum armor.

Suspension:
1. IS-3 (stock) / Max.capacity 48.86 / Turn speed 27 degrees per sec.
2. IS-3M / Max.capacity 50.9 / Turn speed 30 deg per sec.
The suspension is not the first thing you need to get, but do consider it for an elite IS-3 as it does make a difference!

Engine:
V-11 – 650 h.p. – 15% chance for fire on impact
V-2-54IS – 700 h.p. – 12% chance for fire on impact
Overall, you have a pretty reliable engine.

Radio:
10RK – range 500m
12RT – range 700m
R113 – range 830m
Suprisingly, getting a better radio soon is advisable this time. 500m is just not enough sometimes. Best radio is credit to the team tough.

Turrets:
1. IS-3 (stock)
Armor 210/110/110
Rotation 22 deg / sec.
Review of 380 meters.
2. T-10
Book 201/148/90
Rotate 32 deg / sec.
Review of 400 meters.

I suggest getting the better turret ASAP. It weighs 2 tons less and speeds up your tank and lets you equip BL-9 without a suspension upgrade.
T-10 has better view-range, turns much faster and actually has more frontal armor thanks to the better slope. Its even a smaller target so your enemy ill miss more often or just scratch the side turret armor with its insane angle.

Guns:
122mm D-2-5T and 122mm D-25T
The first two 122mm guns are pretty similar, they only differ in the rate of fire, with the second one firing about 1 more round per minute. Do equip the D-25T as its 1 round that sometimes decides the outcome of a battle!
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100mm D10T
You also have the 100mm D10T gun, which is basically worthless for this tank as it has the same penetrations as the 122mm ones and has a lower damage per minute ratio. Good for a tier 7 medium tank or the IS-2, but not this time.
122mm BL-9
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The damage and cost is the same as the other 122mm guns, BUT you get 50 more penetration and 0.05 accuracy (that's a lot). When confronted by something heavy like a MAUS, for example, load HE rounds and watch the fireworks. Note: with this gun it is possible to beat a Maus in one-on-one combat given that you have room to manoeuvre and he is busy picking his nose.

Proposed upgrade path:
1. T-10 turret
2. BL-9
3. Suspension
4. Engine
5. Radio (can also be number 3 or 4)

Comparison with its peers:
IS-3 vs Panzer VI Tiger ausf B
An extemely tough comparison for both tanks. The Tiger 2 has a gun with EPIC accuracy and aim time, his frontal hull armor is far superior to IS-3s. IS-3 does more damage per shot and has better side and turret armor. Both have the same 225 penetration (awesome!)
In short:
IS-3 is better vs smaller tanks than KT, thanks to its all around armor.
Tiger can bounce Tier 10 guns more often than IS3 ( hull armor).
IS-3 is speedier, but KT has the long range death to it
1v1 they are as a whole well balanced.


IS-3 vs T32
T32 and IS3 are tied for hull armor, but T32 has an invulnerable turret. IS3 has a much superior gun in all stats except RoF and aim time.
In short:
IS-3 is again better vs small tanks thanks to side armor
T32 can turret-hug Tier 10 tanks into submission
1v1 they are balanced, but as a whole IS-3 is better thanks to 27 more penetration


Historical IS-3
http://blog.worldoft...-3_1024_768.jpg
Mounts the D-25T and IS-3 turret. The tank never saw action in Europe. However several of these beasts were shown on the Victory-Day Berlin Parade. A regiment of IS-3’s was unleashed against the Japanese in Manchuria during the summer of 1945 and I think you get the rest...the word “meat-grinder” should go in there somewhere. The tank remained in service with the soviet army for about two more decades and a modernized version called the IS-3M appeared in 1960.

A link with skins for those of you artistic types:
http://wotskins.word...eavy-tank/is-3/

Tweaks to IS-3 and its peers I would like to see:
-T32 gets a gun with 220 penetration and the same stats except slightly better accuracy.
-KT gets its turret side armor fixed and gets a +10 damage boost to top gun + 232 penetration for it and slightly higher RoF.
-IS-3 gets +10 dmg to BL-9 and gets 5.20 RoF, gets speed decrease to 37 and 228 penetration.

My dear friend Mariom222 helped for this article, he is a veteran IS-3 player

Chrazel #2 Posted Jun 27 2011 - 13:10

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View PostCharcharo, on Jun 27 2011 - 12:46, said:

1v1 they are balanced, but as a whole IS-3 is better thanks to 27 more penetration

qft

Skraeling #4 Posted Jun 27 2011 - 18:51

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This tank is terrible till you get the BL9.

I also went for binocs for now since you can demount for free and view range is everything to me personally.  

Rammer + BL9 is just hilarious.

First tank ive had that seems to be made of ammo as well.

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Good writing. I just sold my IS3 to buy IS4.
I think that it is better to uprade the gun before the turret(I got the turret b4 the BL9). With the best engine researched at IS, player should be able to do this. I didnt get the gun 1st because I was so frustrating with the stock IS3 and wanted to make some change in the tank. But it proved that just changing the turret was not very effective.

daved12 #6 Posted Jul 04 2011 - 21:26

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i don't know how i played with this tank without bl-9
first time i use bl-9 is at is-4 and it's really awsome but
now i have 130 mm and it's much better than bl-9  :Smile-izmena::Smile-izmena::Smile-izmena:

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Its a very expensive tank for a non premium player? I know the 122 mm gun is expensive but how about repairs after a bad match?

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All the 122mms in the IS series (including the BL-9) use the same ammo.

With premium I think I've maybe had one or two matches where the IS-3 didn't make SOME profit.  The trick is only firing when you know there's a reasonable chance of a hit or damage, since the AP shells cost 1025 apiece and HE 608.  So if you wanted to maximize the IS-3's profit, try using HE more often off-premium for non-critical shots.

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View Postdestruya, on Jul 05 2011 - 08:09, said:

All the 122mms in the IS series (including the BL-9) use the same ammo.

With premium I think I've maybe had one or two matches where the IS-3 didn't make SOME profit.  The trick is only firing when you know there's a reasonable chance of a hit or damage, since the AP shells cost 1025 apiece and HE 608.  So if you wanted to maximize the IS-3's profit, try using HE more often off-premium for non-critical shots.

fortunately the bl9 is much more accurate than the d-25t it replaces.  you wouldnt think .05 better makes a difference, but it really does.  Even often taking shots that are kind of risky, I still maintain close to 80% accuracy with it.

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The full repair cost of IS-3 is over 13k.  So if you play without premium, don't count on making any profit if you are killed or take a lot of damage (even in case of victory).  The gun is quite slow, so you will fire more than 10 rounds in a battle only rarely.  With 10 good hits you can make around 30k(if the team wins) for the cost of 10k, but the chances are not that high -- lots of non-pen hits even against other tier 8 tanks. In short, you will have a profitable game only if you survive.  Having said that, my survival rate in IS-3 is significantly higher than in IS, so overall I'm on the plus side, but very marginally.  The reason for that is that starting at tier 8, you'll be the top tank very often, which makes it much easier to survive the battle (and consequently profit).

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View PostChrazel, on Jun 27 2011 - 13:10, said:

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Agreed +1 thanks sadly I went suspension first ,wish I had read this post earlier

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View PostKyleRees, on Jul 07 2011 - 07:08, said:

Great post and information!

However, I have to respectfully disagree about
"IS-3 is speedier, but KT has the long range death to it
1v1 they are as a whole well balanced."--Talking about KT here?

In my humble opinion the KT would beat the IS3 any day.

I agree. Played by a good driver, a KT will own an IS-3. On the other hand, when a KT driver decides to go face to face with an IS-3, the IS-3 will most likely whoop the KT. I've been in one "dogfight" where a KT kept shooting my IS-3 head on and bounced plenty of shots. The few that connected hurt and left me with low health, but in the end, my multiple shots to his lower glacis ended his fight.

Charcharo, good post. Would love to see more like this for the rest of the Russian heavies >_>

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View PostBORN2DRIVE, on Jun 29 2011 - 12:22, said:

Good writing. I just sold my IS3 to buy IS4.
I think that it is better to uprade the gun before the turret(I got the turret b4 the BL9). With the best engine researched at IS, player should be able to do this. I didnt get the gun 1st because I was so frustrating with the stock IS3 and wanted to make some change in the tank. But it proved that just changing the turret was not very effective.

Unless you use torsion bars, you must upgrade either the suspension or turret to provide enough capacity to equip the BL-9 (it's only slightly heavier than the previous guns but it's still enough to keep you from equipping it immediately). Upgrading the turret makes much more sense than the suspension due to all the other benefits it gives you.

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View PostSkraeling, on Jun 27 2011 - 18:51, said:

This tank is terrible till you get the BL9.

I also went for binocs for now since you can demount for free and view range is everything to me personally.  

Rammer + BL9 is just hilarious.

First tank ive had that seems to be made of ammo as well.

I have never once been ammo racked in the IS-3, somehow.

But, yes, the BL-9 makes this a baby IS-4.  I now laugh at Lowes.

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View PostFuuro, on Jul 12 2011 - 00:04, said:

But, yes, the BL-9 makes this a baby IS-4.
It really doesn't. You would think it does but when you get the IS-4 it becomes EVEN BETTER. The S-70 is plain amazing.

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View PostFuuro, on Jul 12 2011 - 00:04, said:

I have never once been ammo racked in the IS-3, somehow.

But, yes, the BL-9 makes this a baby IS-4.  I now laugh at Lowes.
- My IS-3 was ammoracked by Object704. Was oneshoted in frontal armour.
IS-3 (like all USSR heavys) have 2 ammo rack - 1 in turret and 1 in hull (in IS-3 second AR located between crew compartment and engine.)
IS-4 also have 2 ammo rack - 1 in back of the turret, second in left part of tank, just behind lower frontal armour plate.

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I found the IS3 to be more succeptable to ammo rack damage with the second turret, enough that I started using a WAR after multiple instances of being 1 shot by ferdis.

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View PostChernobyl_Kinsman, on Jul 17 2011 - 17:27, said:

I found the IS3 to be more succeptable to ammo rack damage with the second turret, enough that I started using a WAR after multiple instances of being 1 shot by ferdis.
- 1 of the reason is weak mantle and weak hull. Both turret and hull have ammo storage. + SerB said, that every nations have there own "critical hit features". Soviet tanks have problem with ammo rack (T-44, IS-3 (less, but still), IS-4 with first turret, T-34-85 (sometimes), etc. etc.), Germans have problem with fires...

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"With this machine using the 122mm BL-9 you will finally be a threat to everything, even IS-7s and Maus tanks"

If by threat you mean minor annoyance, I suppose. I'm sorry, 110 hull armor, whose slope is compromised so easily in urban warfare tends to result in this tank being frontally killed in 4 shots by equal or higher tier tanks. The other 2 tier 8 heavies have certain virtues in tough situations, but the IS-3 is essentially an overarmed super-sized medium tank.

And despite the side armor being "better", it will still fail under fire from any equivalent tier tank, if they need to bother aiming there at all.

Also, mobility is somewhat compromised by the slow to aim gun, though at least its not as bad as a T-44...

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View Postthe_moidart, on Jul 19 2011 - 00:51, said:

"With this machine using the 122mm BL-9 you will finally be a threat to everything, even IS-7s and Maus tanks"

If by threat you mean minor annoyance, I suppose. I'm sorry, 110 hull armor, whose slope is compromised so easily in urban warfare tends to result in this tank being frontally killed in 4 shots by equal or higher tier tanks. The other 2 tier 8 heavies have certain virtues in tough situations, but the IS-3 is essentially an overarmed super-sized medium tank.

And despite the side armor being "better", it will still fail under fire from any equivalent tier tank, if they need to bother aiming there at all.

Also, mobility is somewhat compromised by the slow to aim gun, though at least its not as bad as a T-44...
225 penetration is enough to punch through T10 frontal weakspots. With 390 damage, i tell you they will feel it.




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