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ToasterAtheism #1 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 00:42

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Will there ever be one?
Will the game ever progress to the future? (or present, I'm talking about now)

Armored_Ninja #2 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 00:43

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i really dont think it will, i mean tanks can fire miles away now, just think how big that map would need to be

ToasterAtheism #3 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 00:45

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Oh god.
We don't need to add any more to the 2 gig setup file.

_HatTrick_ #4 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 00:54

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View PostKnightranger, on Jun 30 2011 - 00:43, said:

i really dont think it will, i mean tanks can fire miles away now, just think how big that map would need to be

The Abrams can also fire accurately on the move at top speed with it's tracking computer.  It wouldn't make for a very fun video game.

Bigbxmach23 #5 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 01:05

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120mm SmothBore cannon, I would go into my turtle shell.

Coldhell #6 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 01:06

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View PostBigbxmach23, on Jun 30 2011 - 01:05, said:

120mm SmothBore cannon, I would go into my turtle shell.


Edit i had it backwards

Mowie #7 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 01:11

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View PostColdhell, on Jun 30 2011 - 01:06, said:

The 105 the M1 and M1ip had was a smooth bore.  The M1A1 changed that to the 120 rifled bore.

Really! You have them the wrong way around.

M1 had the 105 mm L52 M68 rifled cannon.

M1 now has the 120 mm L44 M256 smoothbore cannon.

Godfather057 #8 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 01:11

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A while back some one was talking about putting an M1A1 for like 100k gold (800$ or something like that)
If i saw one of thoes in this game...

Coldhell #9 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 01:12

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View PostMowie, on Jun 30 2011 - 01:11, said:

Really wrong way around.

M1 had the 105 mm L52 M68 rifled cannon.

M1 now has the 120 mm L44 M256 smoothbore cannon.


Yea thats right...because of the heat rounds....That is one reason why they changed it.  the Challenger is rifled...that was what I was thinking of

Mowie #10 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 01:17

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View PostColdhell, on Jun 30 2011 - 01:12, said:

Unless thing changed since I got out I doubt that.  Internet is not always right

Dude you do know that the 105 mm L52 M68 is just a American-licensed British Royal Ordnance L7 105mm which is and has always been a rifled cannon.

Also I don't rely on the internet for my info. Mine is all real life knowledge.

Armored_Ninja #11 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 01:19

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and they shoot through a T-54 like a hot knife through butter, AKA 73 eastings.....GO 2nd ACR!!!!!!!!!

Coldhell #12 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 01:22

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View PostMowie, on Jun 30 2011 - 01:17, said:

Dude you do know that the 105 mm L52 M68 is just a American-licensed British Royal Ordnance L7 105mm which is and has always been a rifled cannon.

Also I don't rely on the internet for my info. Mine is all real life knowledge.


Umm DUDE...please read above...I was thinking of the Challenger....and yes I know about the 105...the 120 started on the M1A1....the rest had the 105 from whay I remember.

Armored_Ninja #13 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 01:31

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View PostColdhell, on Jun 30 2011 - 01:22, said:

Umm DUDE...please read above...I was thinking of the Challenger....and yes I know about the 105...the 120 started on the M1A1....the rest had the 105 from whay I remember.


you are correct, the 120 came out with the M1A1.

Zergling #14 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 03:41

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View PostColdhell, on Jun 30 2011 - 01:12, said:

Yea thats right...because of the heat rounds....That is one reason why they changed it.  the Challenger is rifled...that was what I was thinking of

Actually no. HEAT rounds appear to have had little to do with the reason to switch to smoothbore, as they were already obsolete as a anti-tank gun round by the time the M1A1 was produced.

Rather, APDS kinetic energy penetrators work best with very high length to diameter ratio; above 8:1, spin stabilisation doesn't work well, requiring a switch to fin stabilisation.

Aside from that, smoothbores have a slightly higher muzzle velocity, further improving kinetic energy penetrators.

Ricox #15 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 09:16

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Why are you even discussing future tanks? They just won't be added, they would be logically OP. I really don't think Wargaming would break the whole balance just to sell some $800 tanks to some rich players. M1A1 Abrams would be literally invicible to any tanks in the game... there would be so much crying, flaming and rage-quitting that the game would just die, simple as that.

XDeathscytheHellX #16 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 12:31

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m1 wouldnt be op there is plenty of tanks in the tiem frame of abrams up to now that can match and beat it mayb you do some research but i cant see them addin it because  it would change the game style

_DK_ #17 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 12:43

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lining 15 loltracteurs next to each other and firing a modern sabot round at them :P. 1 shot, 15 kills.

FreeFOXMIKE #18 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 13:02

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View Post_HatTrick_, on Jun 30 2011 - 00:54, said:

The Abrams can also fire accurately on the move at top speed with it's tracking computer.  It wouldn't make for a very fun video game.

YOU MAY WANT TO RECONSIDER THAT THOUGHT there are several modern tank games out there and mods that include tanks.


Battlefield 3 : Thunder Run Tank Gameplay Trailer [HD].mp4
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=BZefcz8IzCs


Bad Company 2 - PC -TANK - Gameplay & Destruction

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=bwfxK286-Hk


Russian T-90 tank online BC2 game 3/3.mp4
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=MRdV-ChBE0A

w4golf #19 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 15:07

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View PostsuperDeathscythehell, on Jun 30 2011 - 12:31, said:

m1 wouldnt be op there is plenty of tanks in the tiem frame of abrams up to now that can match and beat it mayb you do some research but i cant see them addin it because  it would change the game style

Not to get into one of the numerous comparisons of the the modern tanks that can be found in that section, but no, simply, no.

The 120mm or 105mm with HEAT or Sabot could hit, penetrate and destroy anything in the game, reliably at ranges over 3000m and armor that only lucky shots (weakpoint) shots from the rounds used in the 40's and 50's could penetrate... you wouldn't like to see the stats on any variant of the M1 series tank in game.  

So before calling out somebody, please, do some research, better yet, sign up, start with basic VID training, use your pubs NCO, get promoted, become a gunner, get sent to MG school, learn something.

RazgrizOne #20 Posted Jun 30 2011 - 16:23

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There was a topic some poor guy posted saying it would be cool to put the Abrams in.

His reputation went down 119- because of that. :Smile-hiding:

Yes, it would be cool, but way too OP.