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ogresjunkmail #1 Posted Jul 06 2011 - 18:31

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I'm really enjoying the T18's speed and agility.  It's quite fun to have a TD that can keep up with the light tanks.  Although I may not using it in the most effective manner by running around "knife-fighting" I'm really enjoying myself.

I've been derping with the 75mm gun, and it does pretty well.  I researched the 40mm "Gun Ordinance QF 2pdr AT Gun Mk.X" and played a few rounds with it, but quickly went back to the derp gun which seemed to be more generally effective.

Did I not give the top gun enough of a chance?  What are your experiences with the 40mm over the 75?  I think I should keep the 75 as it seems to mesh better with my style of using the tank (dashing around taking short-range shots) but I'd like to hear other users' opinions.

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Blackmetallic #2 Posted Jul 06 2011 - 18:49

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I've used both, but find I have much more fun with the 2 pdr.  Your rate of fire is great and ammo is cheap.  I've killed many by popping four or five shots off to their one or two.

DAKOTA567 #3 Posted Jul 06 2011 - 19:08

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The 2 pounder (Which is British since they rate their guns by the weight of the shell it fires.) is better for hiding in a good TD spot because of the better range and armour pen.  Also because it's British it is awsome. :Smile_honoring:

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the 40mm rocks, truly. Fast rate of fire, combined with fast aim (1 sec) make it a wonderful 2 or 3 punch KO. The 75mm only fires HE, and i find that a hit or miss weapon, mostly miss. When i first bought the T18 i couldnt hit water if i fell out of a boat, and the upgraded HE only weapon wasnt much better. But with the Two Pounder, I got Top gun on my first outting with it. The only real drawback i find with the T18 is that it doesnt pivot very well and so you need to use your speed and then manuever to chase the target if it gets past you. With the 40mm, you can get off several shots before you need to move to evade/intercept. I hope that helps.

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hairychicken #5 Posted Jul 06 2011 - 20:13

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75 is a slower firing rate but  you can hit long range with it.Also up close in a lower tier match you can one shot tanks., I've had 6 kills in a match with both guns.Its just a matter of playing style.Just wondering anyone  posting here have their T18 tank crew at 100%?

ogresjunkmail #6 Posted Jul 06 2011 - 20:40

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View Posthairychicken, on Jul 06 2011 - 20:13, said:

75 is a slower firing rate but  you can hit long range with it.Also up close in a lower tier match you can one shot tanks., I've had 6 kills in a match with both guns.Its just a matter of playing style.Just wondering anyone  posting here have their T18 tank crew at 100%?

I've got mine to the mid-80s.

I can't seem to get kills with any regularity with the 2 pounder, but I've gotten confederate once already, heh.  Any tips on getting finishing hits with the 2pdr ?  I can get plenty of kills with the 75mm, I've gotten 5 a few times, on the city maps.

ogresjunkmail #7 Posted Jul 07 2011 - 08:19

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After a day of dinking around with the 2pdr, I have to say, I don't get people's praise for it.

It won't even pierce the T18's front armor!  I was in a front-to-front with another t18 (he had the 75mm) and he killed the tanks to either side of me while I hit him at least 7 times without penetrating.  Bah!

I'm going back to the 75mm - it may be inaccurate and slow-firing, but at least when you hit somebody, they know it.

nublex #8 Posted Jul 07 2011 - 15:30

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I really don't see kills over confederate. It may look cool, but for those who know would look at damage done.

2pdr should not dig aint anything tier 4 or below....

bzachman21 #9 Posted Jul 08 2011 - 04:12

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I prefer the 2pdr to the 75mm because of its amazing penetration. A mid-range shot is capable of penetrating nearly all tier 2 and 3 vehicles and most tier 4's, while dealing about 20% damage with each shot.

View Postogresjunkmail, on Jul 07 2011 - 08:19, said:

After a day of dinking around with the 2pdr, I have to say, I don't get people's praise for it.

It won't even pierce the T18's front armor!  I was in a front-to-front with another t18 (he had the 75mm) and he killed the tanks to either side of me while I hit him at least 7 times without penetrating.  Bah!

The T18 has 51mm of front armor. The same amount as the Sherman. Nothing else in tiers 2 and 3 has more front armor.

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View Postbzachman21, on Jul 08 2011 - 04:12, said:

I prefer the 2pdr to the 75mm because of its amazing penetration. A mid-range shot is capable of penetrating nearly all tier 2 and 3 vehicles and most tier 4's, while dealing about 20% damage with each shot.



The T18 has 51mm of front armor. The same amount as the Sherman. Nothing else in tiers 2 and 3 has more front armor.

So, I gave the 2pdr another try.  This time, rather than trying to dash around and get kills, I played the t18 like I would my hetzer.  The 2pdr was very effective in this role, more so than the 75mm.  The accuracy and rate of fire were quite nice.

What this means to me, is that the t18 can play 2 roles - a fast tank with big firepower that wants to get in close to wreak havoc, or a sniper that watches strategic points and works with teammates to put enemy tanks down - depending on what gun I mount.  I think that's pretty neat, and it means I'll be keeping this boxy little AT in my garage for a while.  I'm really coming to like the tier 2 AT matchmaking - no heavies, every enemy on the map is at least able to be damaged.