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Walter_Sobchak #41 Posted Jan 17 2016 - 03:18

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View PostCK16, on Jan 16 2016 - 20:21, said:

 

O.o dont think brakes helped much! 

 

1. Everyone in there mostly ok?

2. How is the M10 doing is she ok! D:

 

As far as I know, no one was seriously hurt.  As to the vehicle, it's not a real M10.  From what I understand, the chassis is from an old lumber yarder (which were based on sherman hulls) and the rest was made of various parts, some supposedly stolen from a Canadian army vehicle.  According to a post at another forum:

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Despite the owners claims they found the hull in a barn and the turret in a scapyard, and they performed a miracle restoration, that is patently false. There is not one M10 part on the whole repli-tank. The 3 piece differential, tracks and 6 bogeys were taken from a scrapped forestry yarder in Kamloops BC. Hard to see from the video but the bogey wheels have no rubber tires, they are wrapped in steel which is what happens in the forestry business when the rubber wears out. The lower hull is fabricated out of scrap plate and does not have the correct 1.5 inch sideplates or floor. The upper hull was completely fabricated from 3/4" steel plate that was cut and welded together to form a patchwork upper hull. When you are up close to it you can see that the hull is made of several pieces of mild steel not four large armor plates. The turret as well was completely made from scratch, as was the mantlet and gun. The gun barrel was machined at a shop in Langley BC and is smooth inside, not rifled. It is supposed to be an Achiles replica but they didn't have the any dimensions for the gun, muzzle brake or counterweight and the results are way off. The barrel is way to thick compared to a seventeen pdr. The turret sits on a genuine Sherman turret ring and inside the replica it has Sherman tank seats and tillers. The drivetrain consists of a single 6046 Detroit diesel that is connected to a truck transmission which has been placed in reverse. When it was built it was discovered that with the direction of the engines rotation, it had 5 reverse gears and one forward gear. Instead of reversing the rotation of the engine which is simply a matter of moving the timing gears around, they installed an extra transmission and placed it in reverse so that it would have 5 speeds forward. It is a true Rube Goldberg setup with huge potential for disaster as you saw in the video. As it was the repli-tank was being moved to load it on a truck and take it to a museum for a public parade function. Can you imagine if what happened on the video happened in public? The repli-tank running away into a crowd of people? Would not have done our hobby much good in Canada. As it was they had no emergency shut-off for the engine and the brakes had never been looked at, adjusted or tested. The ultimate in irresponsible behavior. As it was nobody was seriously hurt and great lengths were taken to cover the whole thing up. Fortunately it has come to light and serves as a reminder these vehicles, fake or not, are not to be fooled with by untrained and irresponsible people. As for the comments seen below the video, this same group of guys when entrusted with the care of a Canadian Forces M4A2 Sherman at their museum, stripped every part off the tank they could, inside and out, including the gun and mantlet, installing replica parts in their place and taking the parts for themselves to use on another replica they are constructing of a M4 Sherman. Somehow the theft of 76mm tank cannon seems to have gone unnoticed by the Commander of the base where it was stolen from...probably not the type of thing you want to bring to light if your hoping for promotion...

 

 Here is a picture of a Magill Yarder based on an M4 chassis.

 

 



Walter_Sobchak #42 Posted May 05 2016 - 03:11

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I thought I would necro this thread with this video on AFV safety from the British.

 



The_Chieftain #43 Posted May 05 2016 - 07:07

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God, that's cheesy.

 

Unfortunately, no more or less so than American ones.



KaiserWilhelmShatner #44 Posted May 05 2016 - 08:49

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View PostWalter_Sobchak, on May 04 2016 - 18:11, said:

I thought I would necro this thread with this video on AFV safety from the British.

 

 

What is her phone number and what is she doing Saturday?

Walter_Sobchak #45 Posted Aug 17 2016 - 18:05

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Edited by Walter_Sobchak, Aug 17 2016 - 18:05.


Ikanator #46 Posted Jan 25 2017 - 13:35

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+1

 

To echo and expand on what the other fine gentlemen have already said I would like to add the following:

 

While some of the jobs in some of the services are obviously more dangerous than others, the military itself is still an inherently dangerous environment 24/7. I don't care which branch you are in or what your specific job is. It doesn't matter if you are a certified, card carrying, desk bound, R.E.M.F.. There is going to be something, somewhere that will have the potential to bite you. This is especially true when one is dealing with various exercises, training operations and maintenance evolutions. You get hit with a palletized load of toilet paper because either you and/or the forklift driver weren't paying attention when you left the supply office and you can end up just as crippled or dead as if you had suffered any other mishap.

 

 

Furthermore, in the sort of conflicts we are fighting now, our enemies don't make fine distinctions between fronts and rear areas, combat and support personnel, or pay any attention at all.to the alleged "rules" of war. You can be targeted by somebody you thought was "friendly" just because you wear the uniform.

 

Last but most definitely NOT least, being in the.military is a service you are providing to the country. While the people in the service are not suicidal kamikaze zergs by any stretch of the imagination, nevertheless there may be situations where your very survival may be a secondary consideration. You need to be able.to wrap your head around that before you seriously consider joining up.


Edited by Ikanator, Jan 25 2017 - 16:09.


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View PostThe_Chieftain, on May 05 2016 - 01:07, said:

God, that's cheesy. Unfortunately, no more or less so than American ones.

View PostKaiserWilhelmShatner, on May 05 2016 - 02:49, said:

What is her phone number and what is she doing Saturday?

 

Page 3 Girl?

 

Tried several times to catch her name, spent a couple hours looking for "Annette".

 

It's easy to get lost.






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