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What punishment should those that willingly and blatantly engaged in rigging be given?

  1. 1 Day Ban (11 votes [2.20%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.20%

  2. Voted 7 Day Ban (49 votes [9.78%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.78%

  3. Voted 1 Month Ban (93 votes [18.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.56%

  4. Voted 6 Months Ban (48 votes [9.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.58%

  5. 1 Year Ban (28 votes [5.59%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.59%

  6. Voted Permanent Ban (130 votes [25.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.95%

  7. Voted No Punishment (142 votes [28.34%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.34%

What punishment should those that unknowingly (or weren't directly involved) in rigging be given?

  1. Voted 1 Day Ban (55 votes [10.98%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.98%

  2. 7 Day Ban (71 votes [14.17%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.17%

  3. Voted 1 Month Ban (41 votes [8.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.18%

  4. 6 Months Ban (14 votes [2.79%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.79%

  5. 1 Year Ban (14 votes [2.79%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.79%

  6. Permanent Ban (35 votes [6.99%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.99%

  7. Voted No Punishment (271 votes [54.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 54.09%

Should those involved with rigging in any shape or form be banned from Wargaming E-Sports (Including but not limited to Leagues, Tournaments, etc.)?

  1. Voted Yes, for 6 months. (75 votes [14.97%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.97%

  2. Voted Yes, for 1 year. (58 votes [11.58%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.58%

  3. Yes, for 2 years. (6 votes [1.20%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.20%

  4. Voted Yes, Permanently. (182 votes [36.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 36.33%

  5. Voted No. (180 votes [35.93%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.93%

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BlackyBG #21 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:06

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They just need to make T-22 available to be played only in Rampage mode. This is the easiest and most painless way out of the current situation. Than the credit profit / exp earning / missions can be adjusted to make this mode a bit more pleasing. Simply punishing the offenders, but leaving Rampage the way it is now won't do any good in long term. There are always gonna be players willing to go around the rules if the door for this is left open.

Steamboat_Willy_Sr #22 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:07

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View PostWarhorse01, on Nov 30 2015 - 11:54, said:

 

Kind of hard to punish people severely when your losing a little of your player base weekly, the player base that is rigging are what makes up the most active players in the game and these players usually spend quite a bit of money on the game. If the punishment is to harsh they will move on to one of the other games out there.

 

 

I disagree.  The players affected by this issue are a small percent of a small percent.  The majority of players fall into the largest percent of the player base and the percent of those involved with this issue is even smaller.

 

Those in the leagues, especially the top ones, should be held to higher standards, just like professional sports players, who will get sanctioned by their respective leagues for bad behavior that would go unnoticed by anyone else doing it.

 

If the players who participated in this leave the game because they got caught and think the punishment is too severe, that's a plus as it will set the precedent for those who might consider rigging a future event or mission.



deadagain1975 #23 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:08

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Unfortunately they will do nothing.  During the IS-5 campaign, there was blatant abuse of a known chat bug that prevented teams from loading into battle.  Nothing was done then, nothing will be done now.  Coincidentally, some of the same exploiters from that campaign are the same now involved in this.   

Warhorse01 #24 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:08

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View PostGS_G3K, on Nov 30 2015 - 14:03, said:

They probably rig other stuff if they rig this, so keep that in mind. (EDIT: This has been my experience dealing with people who cheat the system for personal gain, obviously it won't apply to everyone.)

Take the tank away and shutdown the game mode.

Don't really care about eSport thing as I don't watch or participate.

 

I think perma ban is a bit harsh....

Doesn't matter though, nothing will be done.

 

Once the tank is awarded and placed in your garage, it cannot be taken away legally. There are some of them out there as I have seen them. 



ChzBrgr1 #25 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:09

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As they say in Wall Street:  Bulls make money; bears make money; pigs get slaughtered. When the pigs "rigged" CW 1.0 by systematic gold farming the pigs got CW 2.0. We will see what the pigs bring upon themselves this time. Get ready for the squealing and the pig tears.

SymbiosisBC #26 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:09

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Those caught rigging should have the reward tank confiscated  --  theirs, and that of every fellow clan member who received one.  These confiscated tanks can then be auctioned off by WG, with the proceeds going to a worthy charity.

 

Unfair to clan members who were not aware of the rigging?  Proactive and preventative self policing is often a greater deterrent than possible punishments after the fact.  

 

If there a few bad apples (those who justify cheating) in a clan, the wrath of righteous retribution by the honest clan members is usually enough of a deterrent to prevent cheating.



Ajax1170 #27 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:09

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View PostTheGhostCat, on Nov 30 2015 - 20:06, said:

 

OP considers himself the 'moral core' of the forums

 

Looks like he's played enough games to know what he's talking about when it comes to the game as well. 

 



Eraycer #28 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:11

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I just want to see people get a 1 hour ban for drowning themselves. lol That's rigging.

Warhorse01 #29 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:13

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View PostSteamboat_Willy_Sr, on Nov 30 2015 - 14:07, said:

 

I disagree.  The players affected by this issue are a small percent of a small percent.  The majority of players fall into the largest percent of the player base and the percent of those involved with this issue is even smaller.

 

Those in the leagues, especially the top ones, should be held to higher standards, just like professional sports players, who will get sanctioned by their respective leagues for bad behavior that would go unnoticed by anyone else doing it.

 

If the players who participated in this leave the game because they got caught and think the punishment is too severe, that's a plus as it will set the precedent for those who might consider rigging a future event or mission.

 

I don't feel anyone should be held to higher standards. Everyone should be treated equally. After all those in the top clans and sports figures all put their pants on the same way as I do. 1 leg at a time. 



Ajax1170 #30 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:13

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View PostEraycer, on Nov 30 2015 - 20:11, said:

I just want to see people get a 1 hour ban for drowning themselves. lol That's rigging.

 

Especially the scumbag arty 

 



CatManDoob #31 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:15

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Why do we get banned for Tk'ing, that's what I want to know. If this is no biggie about rigging missions then why is tk'ing someone an issue.

 

I don't see them being very far from each other.



_Stryker #32 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:16

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1 hour ban for playing arty (:

GS_G3K #33 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:17

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View PostWarhorse01, on Nov 30 2015 - 14:08, said:

 

Once the tank is awarded and placed in your garage, it cannot be taken away legally. There are some of them out there as I have seen them. 

 

Haha this made me laugh!

 

You haven't even glanced at the EULA or even bothered to read the parts pertaining to digital content such as pixel tanks?

 

They can shut this game down tomorrow and you have no legal recourse, you literally accept it when you install the game.

 

No wonder this country is so [edited].

 



cloudwalkr #34 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:18

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wow blackgunner, you never cease to amaze.

 

View PostBlackgunner, on Nov 30 2015 - 20:40, said:

 

 

The depth and scope of this goes far beyond your simple 'reroll' or such.  Rerolls don't really have any downsides or impacts on the game itself.  These people willingly and blatantly conspired to exploit and undermine the very game itself; the very game modes themselves; to achieve their own ends by illegitiment means.  This is even worse than illegal mods; this is actually committing a crime against the entirety of the game itself.  This is like first degree murder.

 

 

This literally made me laugh out loud, it's so absurd.  I can understand being upset about people cheating and rigging game modes in a video game but equating ANYTHING in a video game to murder is beyond ridiculous.

 

I'm speechless...


Edited by cloudwalkr, Nov 30 2015 - 21:18.


Ajax1170 #35 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:21

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Inkv3_Gaming #36 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:23

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View PostAjax1170, on Nov 30 2015 - 12:13, said:

 

Especially the scumbag arty 

 

 

View Post_Stryker, on Nov 30 2015 - 12:16, said:

1 hour ban for playing arty (:

 

 

If you don't like arty, play Blitz

 

Coming soon™ to a pc near you.



Warhorse01 #38 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:23

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View PostGS_G3K, on Nov 30 2015 - 14:17, said:

 

Haha this made me laugh!

 

You haven't even glanced at the EULA or even bothered to read the parts pertaining to digital content such as pixel tanks?

 

They can shut this game down tomorrow and you have no legal recourse, you literally accept it when you install the game.

 

No wonder this country is so [edited].

 

 

Yes you are correct, they can shut the game down at any time legally. That is NOT what I said now is it? 



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^

Valas1 #40 Posted Nov 30 2015 - 21:25

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Just cancel the mission and give everyone the tank for Christmas. Clearly whatever "punishment" they came up with, wouldn't be nearly as punishing as going through all that, and then everyone else gets the tank for free :trollface:.




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