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stalkervision #61 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 13:29

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The gun needs the buff a hell of a lot more. :(

Strike_Witch_Tomoko #62 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 14:42

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View Poststalkervision, on Mar 15 2016 - 05:29, said:

The gun needs the buff a hell of a lot more. :(

 

with its rof.....no

T-34-3. WZ-111, 112 need a gun buff more than IS-6 as IS-6 has insane rof compared to them.



stalkervision #63 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 15:09

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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 15 2016 - 08:42, said:

 

with its rof.....no

T-34-3. WZ-111, 112 need a gun buff more than IS-6 as IS-6 has insane rof compared to them.

​ Wrong, It isn't all about ROF. I have lots of premium tanks that spit out shells and make little profit. The Is-6 has to spam a lot of gold to pen high tier tanks reliably. Many times that costs a lot of cash   The Mutz standard ammo on the other hand has high pen and need little gold to pen anything. It also has a turret that is very bouncy. Tanks like the Mutz are much better for profits as premium tanks should be. The is-6 is like a large turtle with one tooth. The animals that snack on it know all they have to do is find it's many weak spots. That is why WG attempted to buff these spots even more.

 

What they forgot was to give it a better chomp-er. :)  

 

and why is that.. It needs a lot of gold to pen reliably of course that's why.



Strike_Witch_Tomoko #64 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 15:25

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View Poststalkervision, on Mar 15 2016 - 07:09, said:

​ Wrong, It isn't all about ROF. I have lots of premium tanks that spit out shells and make little profit. The Is-6 has to spam a lot of gold to pen high tier tanks reliably. Many times that costs a lot of cash   The Mutz standard ammo on the other hand has high pen and need little gold to pen anything. It also has a turret that is very bouncy. Tanks like the Mutz are much better for profits as premium tanks should be. The is-6 is like a large turtle with one tooth. The animals that snack on it know all they have to do is find it's many weak spots. That is why WG attempted to buff these spots even more.

 

What they forgot was to give it a better chomp-er. :)  

 

did i say the mutz?

the mutz needs its pen cause it sees tier 10 (and if your having trouble penning the mutz, thats a personal problem. not a problem most people have. its pretty easy to pen. specially compared to IS-6)

 

i said the T-34-3, 112, WZ-111.

aka tanks with the same 175 pen of the IS-6, with worse gun depression compared to IS-6, and far worse rof.   but share the prem MM.    oh also all 3 of these have easier to hit and PEN cupolas.

 

not to mention, none of these 3, not even the 2 heavies, have the IS-6's resistance to damage (their lower plates are pennable by tier 4 and 5s.    IS-6 you need at least 150 pen at the minimum to pen frontally, and even then its hard cause of how hard it is to hit the pennable area.  you need 200+ pen to have a reasonable chance to pen.   oh wow....200+ pen, RIP WZ-111, 112, T-34-3 who have to fight bias-6)

 

so you don't need gold to pen any of these 3 chinese.   but they need gold to have a reasonable pen IS-6.

 

 

BIAS-6


Edited by Strike_Witch_Tomoko, Mar 15 2016 - 15:27.


stalkervision #65 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 16:23

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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 15 2016 - 09:25, said:

 

did i say the mutz?

the mutz needs its pen cause it sees tier 10 (and if your having trouble penning the mutz, thats a personal problem. not a problem most people have. its pretty easy to pen. specially compared to IS-6)

 

i said the T-34-3, 112, WZ-111.

aka tanks with the same 175 pen of the IS-6, with worse gun depression compared to IS-6, and far worse rof.   but share the prem MM.    oh also all 3 of these have easier to hit and PEN cupolas.

 

not to mention, none of these 3, not even the 2 heavies, have the IS-6's resistance to damage (their lower plates are pennable by tier 4 and 5s.    IS-6 you need at least 150 pen at the minimum to pen frontally, and even then its hard cause of how hard it is to hit the pennable area.  you need 200+ pen to have a reasonable chance to pen.   oh wow....200+ pen, RIP WZ-111, 112, T-34-3 who have to fight bias-6)

 

so you don't need gold to pen any of these 3 chinese.   but they need gold to have a reasonable pen IS-6.

 

 

BIAS-6

 

 ​Did I say I actually cared ?

 

It is really hard to look at that childish anima gif while I answer your comment but here goes.

 

I hope you appreciate the extreme effort involved but no doubt you will not.

 

Have you actually driven a Mutz ?  A good Mutz pilot will make you eat those words. I guess you got all the beginners in them.  Not surprised it was a rental tank..

 

The Mutz is FAR more versatile then all the examples you give. 

 

In fact it has to be one of the most outstanding premiums in the game now.

 

Someone at WG made a BIG mistake ! :)

 

God, I so wish someone had a girlie anima picture blocker you do not no...:facepalm:

 

Can't you post some actual real girls photos ? Not fatties or UGGOS Please :)

 

anyway I digress.. that isn't relevant here.

 

The is-6 has more armor then a Mutz..DUH !

 

IT NEEDS IT !

 

It also needs it's limited MM

 

It has a sucky gun that you appear to love for it's ROF.. LOL

 

It also needs LOTS of gold rounds to make cash on anything comparable to it's tier that are driven by competent tankers and maybe not even that because it gold rounds are not that outstanding

 

I have driven these tanks you mention and they NEED lots gold rounds TOO ! 

 

175 pen isn't anything outstanding even at their limited MM tiers as you may or may not know.

 

You are talking about equivalent pen guns which the two examples you site have much harder turrets to pen then a IS -6 !

 

Seriously ?  

 

The Is-6 armor was buffed in a attempt to make it more competitive with the same crappy 175 pen gun it always had

 

Obviously there was a problem here that needed attention

 

We will see how this experiment turns out



stalkervision #66 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 16:35

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Don't get me wrong I like any buff to the is-6 they can do but would prefer a little higher standard pen gun then this armor buff.

Strike_Witch_Tomoko #67 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 16:40

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lol...

lets see. mutz is similar to CDC, but with a bit of armor at the cost of rof.

how good is that armor

 

well. aiming up at it...i see a bit of auto bounce angles.  but the mantlet is very much pennable with its giant hole.  and most of the turret is pennable.   

 

 

must be a personal problem of yours. try playign with your hands and not your feet.

 

 

meanwhile IS-6 (at its best gun depression)

hope you brought gold.

 

ok. how about flat ground.

pennable yes for mutz.  but you need to avoid the driver hatch (and pray your not in some pershing or T-44, or T-34-2, or other medium WG has screwed over.  like all tier 7s)

 

 

View Poststalkervision, on Mar 15 2016 - 08:23, said:

God, I so wish someone had a girlie anima picture blocker you do not no...:facepalm:

 

keep crying

 

cause i can post what i want. 

 

And Anime is linked to WoT. Wether you like it or not.

 



Strike_Witch_Tomoko #68 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 16:54

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View Poststalkervision, on Mar 15 2016 - 08:35, said:

Don't get me wrong I like any buff to the is-6 they can do but would prefer a little higher standard pen gun then this armor buff.

 

ok on that i can agree

 

my whole issue with this is it made the IS-6 even MORE of a nightmare to fight cause i can't pen without gold.

 

 

if they reverted its armor to pre 9.14

and gave it say 190 pen or 198 pen.

 

i would not mind. i would approve of that.

 

 

cause then i would be able to pen it without gold, even if it can pen me easier.

 

(but i should point out if IS-6 gets its pen buffed, then we need to include WZ-111 and 112 in the pen buff.     and T-34-3, while maybe not a pen buff. should get something. like the rof the IS-6 has(while still keeping 175 pen).         and Super P.....180 pen.  KV-5....178 pen and it keeps its armor. )

sound fair?

at least..i think i got all the low pen tier 8s there.........(oh! T-34-2, give it 189 pen gun, but keep rof, and gun handling it currently has on 100mm)


Edited by Strike_Witch_Tomoko, Mar 15 2016 - 16:57.


stalkervision #69 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 19:11

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I played the new up armored Is-6 on the T/S and Most no one had a problem penning me with regular ammo whatsoever. They weren't even throwing gold ! :amazed: This made me sad as I want to like the is-6. My Mutz had 10 degrees of gun depression so I  am not worried about the I s-6 five to 6 !  :)  I am getting away more and more from the heavy tank line unless tank can fly and the is-6 is no speedster. :) 

stalkervision #70 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 19:12

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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 15 2016 - 10:40, said:

lol...

lets see. mutz is similar to CDC, but with a bit of armor at the cost of rof.

how good is that armor

 

well. aiming up at it...i see a bit of auto bounce angles.  but the mantlet is very much pennable with its giant hole.  and most of the turret is pennable.   

 

 

must be a personal problem of yours. try playign with your hands and not your feet.

 

 

meanwhile IS-6 (at its best gun depression)

hope you brought gold.

 

ok. how about flat ground.

pennable yes for mutz.  but you need to avoid the driver hatch (and pray your not in some pershing or T-44, or T-34-2, or other medium WG has screwed over.  like all tier 7s)

 

 

keep crying

 

cause i can post what i want. 

 

And Anime is linked to WoT. Wether you like it or not.

 

​ Get a real girlfriend Liberace  :)  



Strike_Witch_Tomoko #71 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 19:14

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View Poststalkervision, on Mar 15 2016 - 11:12, said:

​ Get a real girlfriend Liberace  :)  

 

*facepalm*

i'm straight.....(and been dating bf for 2 years now)



stalkervision #72 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 20:30

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Are you sure ?  Maybe your confused ? LOL  Be that as it may the anima or whatever they call that strange Japanese comic book fantasy concoction of soft porn won't help that situation.  :)  


Strike_Witch_Tomoko #73 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 20:35

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View Poststalkervision, on Mar 15 2016 - 12:30, said:

Are you sure ?  Maybe your confused ? LOL  Be that as it may the anima or whatever they call that strange Japanese comic book fantasy concoction of soft porn won't help that situation.  :)  

 

anime is animation

 

not comic books.

 

comic books are similar to manga.

 

and no i'm not confused. but then again i'm not the one named "stalkervision" which i guess means you stalk anyone you see. must suck to watch 300. u sure your not confused?

 



stalkervision #74 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 20:44

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Yes, you ARE confused if you like that junk and confused in more ways then one.. Your also confused about the name dude...
 
 
The reference is to THIS​.
 
 I have a BA in Photography and Film Production and worked for PBS at one time before I retired.
 
Great way to meet girls :)
 
 Far too many in fact ! :ohmy:
 
The person who got stalked by women and still does is ME ! :hiding:
 
 


stalkervision #75 Posted Mar 15 2016 - 20:47

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Some great advice I can give you here.  " Be careful what you wish for, You just may get it ! "

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View Poststalkervision, on Mar 15 2016 - 12:44, said:

Yes, you ARE confused if you like that junk and confused in more ways then one.. Your also confused about the name dude...
 
 
The reference is to THIS​.
 
 I have a BA in Photography and Film Production and worked for PBS at one time before I retired.
 
Great way to meet girls :)
 
 Far too many in fact ! :ohmy:
 
The person who got stalked by women and still does is ME ! :hiding:
 
 

 

uh....not just women....and i need to report you to the police..

 

Stalker vision often features a fairly helpless target, usually the female protagonist or a child in a horror movie. This tendency of the stalker or monster to prey upon the weak is used to create hatred and dislike for the viewer, and worry for the victim.

 

*hello police? yeah....potential amber alert. tear gas him? sure i got a match. ok flame thrower it is*



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Dude, you can report the women that stalk me too this day if you want. That would help. Women get MEAN when you say no... Maybe report my wife because that how she trapped me ! LOL  It's a cinematic term used by cinematographers as I was. You need to put down the soft core Japanese porn and go to a horror movie with your significant other some time.:P



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women are far more devious then you believe when they want something they can't have but then again you probably don't have that problem. :P

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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 08 2016 - 05:12, said:

 

first off. i'll leave it to you to find out what you misspelled there

 

2nd. did IS-6  REALLY need this buff? low tiers already have enough trouble penning it.  all your doing is making people default to gold because aiming wont help at all.

 

long term this is gonna screw the tank over because people will spam gold so much that its armor will seem like its not there.

 

short term its gonna screw people who still TRY to aim.

 

 

 

when did the game switch from knowing weakspots and aiming.

to spamming gold because aiming wont help?

 

 

 

because thats a move to p2w.  devaluing skill in exchange for a wallet.

 

and there are tanks that need buffs more than the pump stomper pro tank.

 

like STA-2, or 59 patton,  how about some tier 7s? or tier 6s.  god knows what they are going to do against this now.  its basically an auto win unless the tier 6 and 7s brought gold.

 

and tier 8s, meds are gonna suffer unless they bring more gold.  tunnel maps + no weakspots(or less and harder to hit weakspots)

 

as a medium tank player, i can tell you how this looks to me, it looks like the competitor is more appealing for not forcing me to use gold.

 

 

 

are you balancing the game?  or catering to russians?

 

cause the performance this tank has right now

http://wot-news.com/.../tankinfo/en/us

 

is already basically above average

 

there is NO WAY this thing needs a buff.

 

there is NO statistical evidence.

 

 

i call BULL.

and demand you show ACTUAL EVIDENCE that this tank is performing badly enough to warrant a buff.  Alternatively you can show me the pen buff you plan to make to all tier 6, 7 tanks, and tier 8 meds.  to compensate for this .

 

 

 

you have ALOT of map fixing to do (removing tunnel maps and making it possible to flank without committing suicide)  before you can consider making these kinds of buffs.

 

 

 

all this kind of "removal of skill in exchange for catering to russian players and fat wallet players" will do is make people take the competitor seriously with their "no gold round" appeal

 

 

Not that I don't agree with your comments, mostly, but I've yet to find an IS-6 that can't be beat. Honestly, I'd like to see my KV-5 "buffed" again, but a KV-5 vs an IS-6 so far, I've seen KV-5s win more, due to the fact it basically at lowest gun depression, shoots straight through the roof of the IS-6's turret. Now then that aside, being mainly a Tank Destroyer player myself, I've not had this issue as much as others I guess, due to the capabilities of a TD vs any other type of tank. But again, it's all a matter of perspective in the end I guess?



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View Poststalkervision, on Mar 15 2016 - 19:58, said:

women are far more devious then you believe when they want something they can't have but then again you probably don't have that problem.

 

 

Also you're very biased, not all manga / anime is "Japanese soft core porn" -.-






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