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RECON_RANGER #81 Posted Mar 16 2016 - 05:40

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View Postsuperdan51, on Mar 08 2016 - 03:55, said:

This buff didnt make any sense, just like the e5 buff. Lets give a med like heavy that can bounce 25/7, with a lot of resistance to most gold ammo in the same tier. Has pref mm, and albeit has a terrible gun, but all the cons to the hd remodel got balanced out by something.

 

lets also add the fact that you pretty removed all odds of hitting those weak spots, that were already [edited]hard as hell to hit. You guys have to be sick

 

im glad I quit, you guys arent doing the right things anymore, this is another one of your wow moments that makes me wonder why ive been here for 4 years

 

If you quit, please stop posting on the forum.

The_Goblin_King #82 Posted Mar 16 2016 - 11:29

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How are you meant to kill it from the front now? It seems as though they took away all its weak points.

stalkervision #83 Posted Mar 16 2016 - 12:11

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View PostEpicbutcher, on Mar 15 2016 - 22:41, said:

 

 

Also you're very biased, not all manga / anime is "Japanese soft core porn" -.-

 

​Most of it is so I'm not biased that much. The rest is just childish Japanese's school girl damp dreams.  

Strike_Witch_Tomoko #84 Posted Mar 16 2016 - 14:41

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View Poststalkervision, on Mar 16 2016 - 04:11, said:

 

​Most of it is so I'm not biased that much. The rest is just childish Japanese's school girl damp dreams.  

 

actually very little of it is.

only Ecchi, Yuri, Yaoi, and Hentai can be put there  (and 2/4 of them barely meet that)

 

very little anime actually reaches "soft core porn" level.

 

unless you read fanfictions. (but fanfictions aren't official, they fan made. and some are pretty good. should try reading the GW2 fanfiction Shadows of Rata Sum. its hilarious.  https://www.fanficti...ows-of-Rata-Sum )

It can actually be pretty funny at times

 

 

besides, fanfictions don't exist only for anime/manga. 

 

it exists for all entertainment mediums,  like games(even an american game like GW2), hollywood movies(i swear you do NOT want to look up the avengers.....da fk is wrong with d/c fans....poor robin...),  and do i even need to point out game of thrones?

-picture of Robin +batman removed because oh god why would people draw this-

 

but hey, go watch some good anime like Gurren Lagann, Code Geass, or Darker than Black(season 1.    season 2's ending was...uninspired..more of a cop out)

 

 

 



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View PostThe_Goblin_King, on Mar 16 2016 - 04:29, said:

How are you meant to kill it from the front now? It seems as though they took away all its weak points.

 

WGing wants you to buy your own IS-6 and sling lottsa gold to combat the recent BUFFs

mattwong #86 Posted Mar 16 2016 - 17:20

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View PostT_Bo, on Mar 16 2016 - 11:06, said:

WGing wants you to buy your own IS-6 and sling lottsa gold to combat the recent BUFFs

 

You think that the counter-measure for IS-6 armour is premium rounds which have less penetration than a Tiger II's standard rounds?

 

The IS-6 is actually one of the worst tanks to fight another IS-6 with.



Deputy276 #87 Posted Mar 16 2016 - 18:58

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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 14 2016 - 13:31, said:

 

congratz. it gets 190 pen, it can now pen IS-6 driver hatch.  oh w8. nvm.  back to square 1.

 

meanwhile it still has a horrible tumor.

 

It is what it is. Don't like it...don't buy it. They aren't gonna shave off that "tumor" because it is a Patton turret. 59-PATTON. Get it? :rolleyes:

Edited by Deputy276, Mar 16 2016 - 19:01.


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View PostDeputy276, on Mar 16 2016 - 17:58, said:

 

It is what it is. Don't like it...don't buy it. They aren't gonna shave off that "tumor" because it is a Patton turret.

 

​if you look at the actual Patton that's ingame the tumor is nowhere near as huge. Also if it's a Patton turret then give it the Patton 420 view range. Then I might actually buy it. Also also we are allowed to not like it and voice complaints that's what the forums are for


 


 


 



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Is it possible that it was an accidental buff like the e5? From what I heard the e5 buff was an unintended issue with the HD update

Strike_Witch_Tomoko #90 Posted Mar 16 2016 - 19:10

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View PostDeputy276, on Mar 16 2016 - 10:58, said:

View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 14 2016 - 13:31, said:

 

congratz. it gets 190 pen, it can now pen IS-6 driver hatch.  oh w8. nvm.  back to square 1.

 

meanwhile it still has a horrible tumor.

 

It is what it is. Don't like it...don't buy it. They aren't gonna shave off that "tumor" because it is a Patton turret. 59-PATTON. Get it? :rolleyes:

its a made up tank WG made by merging various tank parts.

 

no reason for that particular patton turret.



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View Postotacon237, on Mar 16 2016 - 12:01, said:

 

​if you look at the actual Patton that's ingame the tumor is nowhere near as huge. Also if it's a Patton turret then give it the Patton 420 view range. Then I might actually buy it. Also also we are allowed to not like it and voice complaints that's what the forums are for


 


 


 

Tank is not as tall as a Patton. You are on a low profile Type 59 hull. So you don't get the view range. Tumor probably looks larger because of the way it is represented. Look, it's a PREMIUM tank. Premium tanks are not BETTER than the ones you grind for. They usually have something that makes them "not as good as" the ones you grind for. They earn better credits and train crews. That is their main occupation.



Deputy276 #92 Posted Mar 16 2016 - 19:16

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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 16 2016 - 12:10, said:

its a made up tank WG made by merging various tank parts.

 

no reason for that particular patton turret.

The reason is simple. It's what WG picked. Again...they are NOT going to give you "all the best stuff" in a Premium tank. Don't like it...move on. 



Strike_Witch_Tomoko #93 Posted Mar 16 2016 - 19:22

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View PostDeputy276, on Mar 16 2016 - 11:16, said:

View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 16 2016 - 12:10, said:

its a made up tank WG made by merging various tank parts.

 

no reason for that particular patton turret.

The reason is simple. It's what WG picked. Again...they are NOT going to give you "all the best stuff" in a Premium tank. Don't like it...move on. 

 

 

suuuuure

 

which is why they have mercy on 59 patton and give its gun some buffed pen.

 

and then kick it in the [edited]by buffing IS-6 so 59 patton can't pen its hull.

 

 

you know, 59 patton was refered to by WG as a "failed prem"  and they had some reshuffling in their staff due to 2 failed prems back to back that didn't gain popularity (aka french m4 and 59 patton) and became known as bad tanks.

 

a prem doesn't need to be better than normal tanks.

but it doesn't need to be so bad its known as a bad tank that people advise against buying.

 

hell look at T34, or Super P, or FCM50t, or mutz, or Bias-6, or CDC.

 

now compare to STA-2, 59 patton, m4 french.   jee wonder why theres a difference in popularity between these 2 groups.

 

 

 

 

"don't like it. move on"

sure. you gonna give me my money back?

no?

then buff this crap heap.



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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 16 2016 - 13:22, said:

which is why they have mercy on 59 patton and give its gun some buffed pen.

 

and then kick it in the [edited]by buffing IS-6 so 59 patton can't pen its hull.

 

The IS-6 is a heavy tank with craptastic gun handling whose only real advantage is its armour.  Load premium and quit whining.  And if you don't know how to penetrate the IS-6's armour with 250mm premium rounds, the problem is staring you in the mirror.



Strike_Witch_Tomoko #95 Posted Mar 16 2016 - 19:34

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View Postmattwong, on Mar 16 2016 - 11:29, said:

 

The IS-6 is a heavy tank with craptastic gun handling whose only real advantage is its armour.  Load premium and quit whining.  And if you don't know how to penetrate the IS-6's armour with 250mm premium rounds, the problem is staring you in the mirror.

 

why do i need gold to pen it.

if it doesnt need gold to pen me

 

no matter if i kill it or not in that situation. i lose

 

because i spent credits on gold rounds.  and he didn't.

 

 



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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 16 2016 - 12:22, said:

 

 

suuuuure

 

which is why they have mercy on 59 patton and give its gun some buffed pen.

 

and then kick it in the [edited]by buffing IS-6 so 59 patton can't pen its hull.

 

 

you know, 59 patton was refered to by WG as a "failed prem"  and they had some reshuffling in their staff due to 2 failed prems back to back that didn't gain popularity (aka french m4 and 59 patton) and became known as bad tanks.

 

a prem doesn't need to be better than normal tanks.

but it doesn't need to be so bad its known as a bad tank that people advise against buying.

 

hell look at T34, or Super P, or FCM50t, or mutz, or Bias-6, or CDC.

 

now compare to STA-2, 59 patton, m4 french.   jee wonder why theres a difference in popularity between these 2 groups.

 

 

 

 

"don't like it. move on"

sure. you gonna give me my money back?

no?

then buff this crap heap.

 

Most "bad tanks" aren't inherently bad. They are bad because the player doesn't know (1) how to use them in battles, (2) doesn't have the right equipment installed, or (3) has installed a crew with almost no training. Changing of Premiums is rarely done and it has to be a glaring problem for WG to make a change. In the case of the 59-Patton, WG saw that it was not competitive because of weak ammo. The Buffing of the gun gives it a major improvement. Remember, as in all things, always follow the money trail. If a tank isn't selling, WG will change things. It's that simple. WG couldn't care less about whether it is historically accurate or looks wrong or doesn't make you happy. All they care about is the bottom line. If they think a change will make them more $$$, they will make it. If there aren't a zillion requests for a buff to a tank, and it is selling well, they aren't going to touch it. I also like using the M4A1. Makes a ton of credits for me in every game. APCR as standard ammo won me a Sniper badge. I'll take a "bad tank" like that any day of the week. Same thing with the Panther 8.8. People said it was a "bad tank". But it was mostly a player not knowing how to play it. There are plenty of Panther 8.8 users who are having fantastic games in it. No, I'm not one of them. Although I have had some really good games in it and it always finished in the "+" column for earnings. I also like the new FV4202 Brit med. People are calling it a "bad tank". I like it so much I actually suspended grinding the US line and switched to Brit med line to get to the Centurions.

The whole problem with WOT is so many players refuse to put any effort into LEARNING how to play a particular tank, and instead, run to the "buff and nerf" solution for them.The "easy way out", in other words. Not every tank, regular or Premium, plays the same or acts the same. They are not all super-tanks. Perfect example is the Super Pershing. Before this most recent buff it received, everyone despised it. I bought it and rage-sold it as a POS. WG no doubt saw sales declining on it, analyzed it, and buffed what it needed. I bought it back with credits and the dang thing is my very best credit earner. But it is gonna take a LOT of feedback in the form of $$$ earned before WG is gonna make changes to any Prem tank. WG is a business. And as a business it follows the income numbers very carefully. Not the boo-hoo "it's a bad tank" crap posted on the forum.

 


Edited by Deputy276, Mar 16 2016 - 19:44.


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View Postmattwong, on Mar 16 2016 - 12:29, said:

 

The IS-6 is a heavy tank with craptastic gun handling whose only real advantage is its armour.  Load premium and quit whining.  And if you don't know how to penetrate the IS-6's armour with 250mm premium rounds, the problem is staring you in the mirror.

 

WOW! May be the first post I actually agree with Mr. Wong!!! Well said sir! Uh-oh...I think they have freezing temperatures in hell!!! :teethhappy:

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lets see why IS-6 is more popular than 59 patton

 

US Server

IS-6
59 patton

 

 

Result.  59 patton performs horribly.

 

 

EU server

IS-6
59 patton

 

Result.  domination by IS-6. 

 

 

RU server

bias-6
59 patton

 

result: best 59 patton has done yet.  and it still flunked.  IS-6 was wierd on that graph. but it STILL bashed 59 patton's performance.

 

 

 

 

3/3 IS-6 wins

and 59 patton recieves its title as inferior.



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View PostDeputy276, on Mar 16 2016 - 18:15, said:

Tank is not as tall as a Patton. You are on a low profile Type 59 hull. So you don't get the view range. Tumor probably looks larger because of the way it is represented. Look, it's a PREMIUM tank. Premium tanks are not BETTER than the ones you grind for. They usually have something that makes them "not as good as" the ones you grind for. They earn better credits and train crews. That is their main occupation.

 

 

​its not that much lower profile and it would be a matter of optics quality not height otherwise why do plenty of ridiculously tall British tank destroyers have terribad view range

 

 

​if you look at the m48 Patton and the 59-Patton the 59 has a larger tumor, it almost looks like they welded a big mg turret on top of a preexisting commanders cupola

 

​the thing about premiums being worse has nit been true in years, type 59, all the Berlin yanks, arguably e25, arguably mutz, it is an antiquated notion esp now that they don't get prem mm. They shouldn't be op but they need to be competitive with the standard tanks and fun to play. Making more credits is not an excuse to make a crap tank, making more credits is balanced by the fact that I'm paying $40-50 bucks for it.



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View PostDeputy276, on Mar 16 2016 - 18:40, said:

 

Most "bad tanks" aren't inherently bad. They are bad because the player doesn't know (1) how to use them in battles, (2) doesn't have the right equipment installed, or (3) has installed a crew with almost no training. Changing of Premiums is rarely done and it has to be a glaring problem for WG to make a change. In the case of the 59-Patton, WG saw that it was not competitive because of weak ammo. The Buffing of the gun gives it a major improvement. Remember, as in all things, always follow the money trail. If a tank isn't selling, WG will change things. It's that simple. WG couldn't care less about whether it is historically accurate or looks wrong or doesn't make you happy. All they care about is the bottom line. If they think a change will make them more $$$, they will make it. If there aren't a zillion requests for a buff to a tank, and it is selling well, they aren't going to touch it. I also like using the M4A1. Makes a ton of credits for me in every game. APCR as standard ammo won me a Sniper badge. I'll take a "bad tank" like that any day of the week. Same thing with the Panther 8.8. People said it was a "bad tank". But it was mostly a player not knowing how to play it. There are plenty of Panther 8.8 users who are having fantastic games in it. No, I'm not one of them. Although I have had some really good games in it and it always finished in the "+" column for earnings. I also like the new FV4202 Brit med. People are calling it a "bad tank". I like it so much I actually suspended grinding the US line and switched to Brit med line to get to the Centurions.

The whole problem with WOT is so many players refuse to put any effort into LEARNING how to play a particular tank, and instead, run to the "buff and nerf" solution for them.The "easy way out", in other words. Not every tank, regular or Premium, plays the same or acts the same. They are not all super-tanks. Perfect example is the Super Pershing. Before this most recent buff it received, everyone despised it. I bought it and rage-sold it as a POS. WG no doubt saw sales declining on it, analyzed it, and buffed what it needed. I bought it back with credits and the dang thing is my very best credit earner. But it is gonna take a LOT of feedback in the form of $$$ earned before WG is gonna make changes to any Prem tank. WG is a business. And as a business it follows the income numbers very carefully. Not the boo-hoo "it's a bad tank" crap posted on the forum.

 

 

​Ok honestly, I do agree with you on most of what you said, especially the reference to players not learning their tanks before calling it a POS, probably my personal greatest two tanks to mention on this, would have to be #1 M36 Jackson, you rarely see them anymore, let alone even a few patches back, but the only trouble it has now is fighting some of the buffed tier 8s it fights against. Even then the Jackson delivers quite a good standard for US Tier 6 TDs, even compared to the more popular M18 Hellcat. Also #2 aka the M3 Lee, I get hate messages from playing it sometimes, and people never give it an honest to god chance, that damn gun it has can kill or pen 95% of what it comes across without using a single gold round. Please do not take tanks literally for their "class" since the M3 Lee can only play medium-type games in certain instances, otherwise use it as a bloody TD, otherwise you'll get wiped 9 out of 10 times. Anyways, I've put my 2 cents in, and I'm not even the "best" player out there. Have fun and take it in turn... is all.




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