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Sepplainr #21 Posted Mar 18 2016 - 23:12

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View Post_Tsavo_, on Mar 18 2016 - 14:11, said:

 

Not sure if joking or tin foil.

 

That lets me know I am doing it right.

Sepplainr #22 Posted Mar 18 2016 - 23:17

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View Post_Tsavo_, on Mar 18 2016 - 14:15, said:

 

I'm not familiar with your posting history, so I hesitate to lambaste.

 

Its almost lame comments like the tin foil hat joke I made above. You can flame away, its all in good fun.

RingZero #23 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 00:17

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View PostSepplainr, on Mar 18 2016 - 22:10, said:

/snip

The purple platoon is padding win rate to cover the damage farming (chi sniping) that was done solo to pad the WN8, they then get together in the super secret TS (purple only) and decided to, flame arty every match and call everyone shitters/bads/serfs.

/snip

 

Um.  Ok, I give up.

 

I can't tell if you're being serious or if you're being sarcastic.



Mudman24 #24 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 00:46

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I've seen this before, many purples don't like to platoon with 2 other purples because there is less damage to farm.  Has anyone tried platooning with one other and going to opposite flanks every match?  It seems that you could maximize wr and wn8 like this.  

LesterQuaestor #25 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 01:18

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 speak for yourself

 

  Nope. I speak for you. I think you are one of the data points. :P



LesterQuaestor #26 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 01:22

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1) how many games are we talking here? Days are almost meaningless because a player can play 8 battles or 800 or anything else really in that time frame.

2)  Did you also track 2 vs 3 platoon?( not sure the data is available)

3) have you considered expanding your test to see at what WN8/wr combo that wn8 stops falling in platoons? 

 

 

  1) Hundreds for most. At least a few dozen for all.

 

  2) No way to track 2 vs 3.

 

  3) I want to repeat this looking at tomatoes. I expect that the results will be similar but less distinct, as you move down the skill ladder. I want to know if tomato platoons are worse than the individuals.

 



LesterQuaestor #27 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 01:24

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 The question is:  Can you pad if you are bad?

 

By definition, I don't think you can. If a "bad" player "pads" his stats we would simply call that "getting better".

 



RingZero #28 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 01:31

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Awesome, I am getting better!

poppavein #29 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 03:08

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View Post_Tsavo_, on Mar 18 2016 - 14:08, said:

 

Your obsessive loathing of good players boarders on insanity

There are still people that don't have him on Ignore and continue to read his posts?!

Inconceivable!



_Bagheera_ #30 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 03:15

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if you are platooned with people as good as you, they are farming up all the damage as well, rather then when you are solo and you have to murder above and beyond the call of duty giving you crazy wn8 but losing more often than not.

PlasmaDogPlasma #31 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 03:34

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View PostHurk, on Mar 18 2016 - 15:40, said:

the issue isnt purples with purples. its players like me with a purple. they will likely lose some stats while i will gain. 

thus, i become an artificial blue, by being carried up to it.

When I play with 2 players much better than me I'm usually chasing damage. 



theTimko #32 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 05:10

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I think this makes sense. 

FluffySeaTurtle #33 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 05:26

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Solo Purp -> More damage for them (ups wn8) but less ability to rely and effectively communicate with others leading to a slightly less winrate

 

Toon'd Purp -> Less damage per individual due to damage being split between competent toonmate(s) (wn8 goes down), but due to the ability to effectively communicate during battle while knowing you can rely on them will cause the winrate to rise



the_bolshevik #34 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 05:29

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I've uploaded to vbaddict for a while now and my results confirm this as well. Most of my platoons were duos, and not all of them were with purples, but I still get about ~2.5% more WR while platooned (over thousands of games). I suspect a much stronger effect would be felt from more focus on triple platoons.



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View PostMudman24, on Mar 18 2016 - 17:46, said:

I've seen this before, many purples don't like to platoon with 2 other purples because there is less damage to farm. Has anyone tried platooning with one other and going to opposite flanks every match? It seems that you could maximize wr and wn8 like this.

Yeah, I've wondered the same.  I've long suspected that if their wn8 was really hurt by platooning(which this research by OP suggests it is) it might well be caused by their tendency to all try to work the same strong point rather than spread their influence around the map more.



SpitYoYoMafia #36 Posted Mar 19 2016 - 19:59

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You don't lose much damage by platooning and you win more. Seriously who cares about WN8 anyway when you lose in the process more than when you platoon and the entire point of playing is to win?

 

Also anyone below SU level of gameplay won't be losing much WN8 for platooning if any.

 

Also how they play is another big factor. Do they stick together all the time or do they go off doing their own thing? Most of them stick together and that's why their DPG drops.


Edited by _Ninjax_, Mar 19 2016 - 20:01.


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View PostMudman24, on Mar 19 2016 - 00:46, said:

I've seen this before, many purples don't like to platoon with 2 other purples because there is less damage to farm. Has anyone tried platooning with one other and going to opposite flanks every match? It seems that you could maximize wr and wn8 like this.

 

I have found that if i play with someone of similar play style and tanks it's very bad for win8 . But having some one in a heavy and the other in a med who play the classic roles  then theirs les affect. 



SoTrue #38 Posted May 17 2016 - 07:17

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Isn't your win rate a stat?  So aren't purple platoons padding their win rate stat?

NeatoMan #39 Posted May 17 2016 - 12:32

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View PostPuckChaser, on Mar 18 2016 - 15:32, said:

Its not padding if you play with your friends who happen to be good at the game. That kind of logic is why people @$#@!#$ing hate the gross majority of the uneducated pubbies.

Are they real life friends, or "friends" you made in a tank game?  Funny how many of them only happen to become friends with other good players.



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No. The issue is when individuals with certain stats because they solely play in platoons start trashing individuals who only solo pub since WoT is unable to distinguish between the two statistically.

 

 






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