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113 or T57 Heavy?

  1. 113 (26 votes [53.06%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 53.06%

  2. T57 Heavy (23 votes [46.94%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 46.94%

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Case_N_Point #1 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 17:58

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Hey just as the title states which should I grind out to and why?  I am up to tier 9 on both lines.  The WZ-11 mod 1-4 is so much fun that I'm afraid if I sell and get 113 it will not be as fun.  I do know the 113 finally got a little buff recently so I am leaning towards it to be honest.  The T57 Heavy I am just concerned it won't be as fun since it is an autoloader.  I'll just be unloading into a tank, then running to hide on the reload.  After this weekend I'll have just enough creds and free XP to get one!  Any constructive thoughts and opinions are greatly appreciated.  I'm just a casual player so keep that into consideration.

ScrubIord #2 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 18:02

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113 plus it is getting used in pro scenes(gold league)

 



TwixOps #3 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 18:02

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Both tanks are great, but don't worry about the t57's autoloader leaving you high and dry on the reload...it's 22 seconds (compare to 36 on the 54e1) and unlike nearly every other autoloader in the game, it has higher DPM than either of the other 120mm armed t10 heavies.

wh1skybarrel #4 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 18:11

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113.

OctoThot #5 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 18:12

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def 113 is the way to go, the 57 can be fun but the 113 is very good too and has more uses in the competitive scene, as said.

LordSerb #6 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 18:18

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View PostScrubIord, on Apr 16 2016 - 12:02, said:

113 plus it is getting used in pro scenes(gold league)

 

 



SpitYoYoMafia #7 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 18:23

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113 is a good tank

 

t57 heavy varies

 

pick the one that fits your play style t57 is a mid range tank and the 113 is a brawler



Beckers4 #8 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 18:25

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I would go the 113 for a brawler tank.

Illusion #9 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 19:11

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113 is easier to use and generally better in most situations.

RingZero #10 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 19:36

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113 plays like a medium tank.  T57 is a clip tank that's best in close or medium range engagements.  Which one best matches your play style?

_Bagheera_ #11 Posted Apr 16 2016 - 23:54

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113 is actually not that impressive...I fought one the other day, and thanks to my extreme rust after not having played hardcore in a very long time I accidentally shot him in the hull...his angled hull...his angled hull that was actually tilted back..

 

And I went right through...This was just with regular IS-4 ap rounds at short range. I was not impressed at all.



otacon237 #12 Posted Apr 17 2016 - 00:14

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keep the 1-4, it's a great tank

SpitYoYoMafia #13 Posted Apr 17 2016 - 04:33

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View Post_Bagheera_, on Apr 16 2016 - 14:54, said:

113 is actually not that impressive...I fought one the other day, and thanks to my extreme rust after not having played hardcore in a very long time I accidentally shot him in the hull...his angled hull...his angled hull that was actually tilted back..

 

And I went right through...This was just with regular IS-4 ap rounds at short range. I was not impressed at all.

 

And you probably rolled high so yea don't forget that +-25% RNG goes both ways so you could easily get 300+ penetration on your shots if you roll really high.

 

I also don't believe you because that is at an auto bounce angle if it is indeed above you so you hit it somewhere else.

 

The LFP is really really bad so maybe you hit it there or something.


Edited by _Ninjax_, Apr 17 2016 - 04:36.


birdboy98 #14 Posted Apr 17 2016 - 05:35

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I don't have either but I can say this, the T57 Heavy is very easy to pen, basically its the tank everyone shoots at when they see it next to something like and IS-7, E-100, or T110E5. Also you can't really sidescrape or angle the T57. Anything the T57 can do the AMX 50B does better IMO (besides armor obviously). From what I understand the 113 has fairly decent speed, which is great considering you actually have some armor to work with.

Oh and keep the WZ-111 1-4, that tank is a monster and I'm loving the grind to the 113.



Xplato #15 Posted Apr 17 2016 - 08:05

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I wouldn't touch the T57 with a 100 mile pole.

 

the T54E1 is imo much better for it's tier. doesn't suffer nearly as much as the 57 does. doesn't get ammo racked by just getting sneezed on by a cat. and doesn't move slower than the T95 with a dead driver/damaged engine in reverse.

 

the 57 is imo the worst tier 10 heavy tank, almost going to call it the worst tier 10, but that prize goes to another tank....



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View Post_Ninjax_, on Apr 16 2016 - 11:23, said:

 

pick the one that fits your play style t57 is a mid range tank

 

No. No it isn't. It's either a long range tank or a close range one because at any range that isn't close to point blank, you have to aim in or else you will miss every shot, which at mid range is going to get you shot to crap, depending, while at long range you have plenty of time to aim in. It *can* fight well in mid-range if you aren't getting focused.



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View PostKruggWulf, on Apr 17 2016 - 02:10, said:

 

No. No it isn't. It's either a long range tank or a close range one because at any range that isn't close to point blank, you have to aim in or else you will miss every shot, which at mid range is going to get you shot to crap, depending, while at long range you have plenty of time to aim in. It *can* fight well in mid-range if you aren't getting focused.

 

it's accuracy is pretty abysmal so long range isn't really an option. it has to be in close quarters to even stand a chance of getting anything meaningful damage out of it's drum. which is where the problem sets in, every shot damages at least your ammo rack+1 other module. it's the only tank that I ever actually ran 2 repair kits on.

 

it's module damage is the worst of any tank in Wot, nothing that I have yet to play can even compare to it.



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113

 

T57 Heavy back in the day would be king but after getting rekt by the nerf bat it lost its place and over time has been power creeped with the introduction of other tanks along with various buffs to some older tanks.


Edited by _Gungrave_, Apr 17 2016 - 08:15.


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View PostXplato, on Apr 17 2016 - 01:13, said:

 

it's accuracy is pretty abysmal so long range isn't really an option. it has to be in close quarters to even stand a chance of getting anything meaningful damage out of it's drum. which is where the problem sets in, every shot damages at least your ammo rack+1 other module. it's the only tank that I ever actually ran 2 repair kits on.

 

it's module damage is the worst of any tank in Wot, nothing that I have yet to play can even compare to it.

 

If you're able to fully aim in each shot, it's pretty accurate. However, the aim time is so long and the bloom is kinda bad that any sort of movement and you're screwed, which rules out midrange where you need to keep moving.

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View PostKruggWulf, on Apr 17 2016 - 06:35, said:

 

If you're able to fully aim in each shot, it's pretty accurate. However, the aim time is so long and the bloom is kinda bad that any sort of movement and you're screwed, which rules out midrange where you need to keep moving.

 

I rage sold mine like a week before it was nerfed into the ground. but from what I remember the shots usually went like this

1: hits the moon

2: hits the dirt

3: Bounces off the [edited]end of an ELC amx

4: hits and pens it.

WOOOH 400 damage!

 

that was my biggest problem with it, the module damage was cancerous but I could deal with it. but when 3 out of my 4 shells don't even go where I'm aiming at I draw the line, the 57 to this day I swear has the worst RNG of any tank, and I know RNG is just that random number generator. but the tank just seemed to miss soo many shots that it should have hit.







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